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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:29 PM
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MSNBC hammering Obama on speech.
This was the worst speech I've ever heard from Obama and if MSNBC isn't giving him a pass on it, one can only imagine what's going to happen in less friendly confines.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:30 PM
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1. MSNBC friendly?
:rofl:
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:11 PM
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24. MSNBC was one long Obama commercial during the Primaries.
You're thinking of CNN that might as well have called itself the Clinton National News
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:31 PM
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2. worse speech you've ever heard?
hmmm
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:32 PM
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4. I believe "from Obama" was specified
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:33 PM
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7. From Obama. hmmm
Can you cite one that's worse?
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Esse Quam Videri Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:31 PM
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3. It is deserved IMO
terrible speech. This is what we have waited 57 days for?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:32 PM
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5. Superman is fictional.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:59 PM
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17. Um, no. it was about as good as it could have been -- and Obama filleted BP
My takeaway:

-- The nation was lied to by BP.
-- We're doing everything within our abilities.
-- Renewable energy is an issue (unsaid but clear: GOPers whining or complaining will have the BP oil spill hung around their necks like an albatross)
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:33 PM
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6. KO seemed pissed off
at the President. No details on HOW 90% of the oil is to be captured - no details on how/where/who is going to take charge of the payouts to the oil spil victims - no details on the climate bill and what is going on with that - and on and on. KO even "god damnned" once.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:14 PM
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25. 90%... that had me scratching my head....
needs some explanation
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:42 PM
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32. It will all be fixed by Miraculous Microbes
You know the same ones that saved Itoxel, while it burned for almost a year.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:35 PM
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8. No it wasn't. It was excellent.
The corporate media can shove it.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:38 PM
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10. It's a 15 minute address to the nation.
He cannot cram 3 hours of policy into 15 minutes without warping the laws of time and space.

There were certain topics they wanted to cover.

Honest to fucking Christ, if he had spent the whole time talking about exactly how much money he was going to make BP pay out, the focus would be on "It's too much!" vs. "It's not enough!"
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:53 PM
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35. +1
Well said!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:46 PM
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11.  Usually KO likes the prez.
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:48 PM
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14. excellent
Edited on Tue Jun-15-10 07:49 PM by branders seine
in that he was able to move his lips for 17 minutes and not say a damned thing.

excellent dog paddling.


Well, at least it wasn't 17 minutes of straight-out lies like bush would've given us. We should feel blessed.
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:35 PM
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9. get over yourself
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:47 PM
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12. don't click over to GD-P
:rofl:
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:47 PM
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13. lousy speech & no action from the gov't; people & the environment remain at BP's mercy
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:50 PM
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15. The speech did suck in all honesty. He said nothing really.
Disappointed. :(
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:57 PM
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16. BP was a big advertiser on NBC/MSNBC -- so are other fossil fuel pushers
'nuffsed.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:00 PM
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18. this speech was nothing more than a "fuck you" from the President to us.
He might as well have said BP wrote the speech for him. What weak sauce. He's going to go begging to BP tomorrow that pretty please, won't they set aside some little money for the massive destruction they caused?

If Obama was representing us rather than BP, he would have said he was nationalizing the company, seizing their banking assets, and pursuing criminal charges against the management (including murder, for the deaths of the 11 workers).

What a joke of a speech.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:38 PM
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31. Sadly, I must agree.
I expected more.

:dem:

-Laelth
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:51 PM
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34. Hate to say it, but you're right. n/t
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:05 PM
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36. Interesting....how do you nationalize a non American private company?
I am just interested in how you would actually go about it in the real world..
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:01 PM
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19. Move over under that bus, Keith, and make room for Rachel!!
:rofl:
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:01 PM
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20. It was a good, brief, speech and I'm glad he's seizing the opportunity for energy reform. n/t
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:08 PM
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21. That wasn't his worst speech
His worst speech by far was the one regarding Afghanistan which sounded like he took one of Chimpy's old speeches on the subject, rewrote it so it was in actual English, but left all the fucking bullshit "war on terra" talking points, including the outright lie that the Taliban had even the remotest connection to 9-11-01.

I couldn't believe my ears when I heard that bullshit coming from someone who HAS to know better than to actually believe it. :evilfrown:
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:15 PM
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26. Good point.
At least the speech tonight seemed reasonably honest. It was really hard to believe he wasn't being disingenous in the Afghanistan speech.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:09 PM
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22. Weak speech. Very disappointing. The points the MSNBC talking heads
made were spot on.

We are fucked on this oil spill.

Oh, except he's going to clean up 90% of the oil that has spilled pretty soon. He has a SECRET plan.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:11 PM
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23. Not great, not terrible. Mediocre.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:22 PM
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27. GE ismad because Obama did not do an infomercial on Cap and Trade
which will make GE a ton of money.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:24 PM
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28. We were hoping for the HBO speech..and we got the Hallmark Channel speech
Edited on Tue Jun-15-10 08:25 PM by SoCalDem
:(

We wanted Tony Soprano putting the hammer down, and we got Roma Downey
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:26 PM
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30. LOL That's a funny way of putting it. :^D
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:26 PM
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29. The speech didn't stop the oil from flowing!!!!111!!!!! It sucked!!!!1111!!!!!

:eyes:
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:48 PM
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33. Rachel was a little less brutal
but not what I'd call positive, either.
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:25 PM
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37. We are totally fucked
That was a funeral speech for the gulf
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:35 PM
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38. I felt like I was watching Fred Armisted
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