Just a little perspective, if I may . . . . . .

Say what you will about tonight's speech or the whole series of events leading up to it, but keep some perspective:

The Gulf disaster is the fault on one Richard B. Cheney, aided and abetted by one George W. Bush. The course was set when they seeded the oversight and governance agencies with spores of their minor functionaries.

This is not the main event. This is the dénouement.

I am not the audience, but the POTUS could not go there... even if he should have.

Salazar had over a year, he didn't do shit.

they didn't want it

That this is the dénouement, literally the "untying", of the knot of decades of a deliberate, deregulated and comprehensive rape of the planet.

Recommended.

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I am hopeful that things will change as a result of this debacle.

I only wish they'd call out the true perps.

This environmental disaster is due to the structure of our economy and energy policies.

Obviously, Bush and Cheney are tied to the disaster intimately, being oilmen, but the Obama administration continued down the same road of lax regulation and fossil fuel dependency.

There is plenty of blame to go around.

What if this were a plague tied to the meat supply. You could say they were too slow to respond to the lack of inspectors and the big gift Bush gave the cattle industry early in his first term (Who recalls the "Thank God 'merikins don't have to depend on anyone else's meat" speech?).

There are so many agencies that need cleaning out, where to start? I wanted Justice done first, but Holder seems slow to act, much like Salazar. The fact is, it will take time.

Now that his hand is being forced, perhaps. But Obama's Chicago school roots run too deep for me to see him as someone who will clean up capitalism.

I am reminded of the scene in West Side Story where, after the boyfriend gets killed, Maria goes around to all his buddies saying, "YOU killed him, and YOU, and YOU, and YOU!!!"

to divert blame from the powers that be, who set policies that the rest of us have little choice in following.

You can unrec but you can't hide.

point about the disaster of the Bush/Cheney administration and their deregulation of the energy industry??

Just sayin.

. . . . none of your business and make you look like you have some sort of chip on your shoulder.

Her full time job defending her father . . . it'll take a lifetime.

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What a waste of an Oval Office speech & setting although it's a great place of SNL sketches.

This massive disaster is the equivalent of a direct attack on the shores and waters of America, and our country should have reacted as if we had been put under attack - because WE ARE UNDER ATTACK.

The President should declare that the military will defend our shores and take full control of the offending oil rig and freeze all BP funds in the US banks and financial institutions.

:shrug:

That steaming load Cheney destroyed the frickin ocean.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=8482245

Evidently they were not supposed to be drilling one mile down???

Granted, Cheney is an underlying reason --

But, Obama has been in office now since Feb '09 --

and I do sympathize with him -- think he tremendously underestimated

the corruption of government --

but can't sysmpathize with him for those he brought along with him!!

He will get blamed for all of it. A perfect plan if there ever was one...

they lay this right at Obama's feet. He's totally responsible as far as they're concerned. He should have undone everything that was done in the last 8 years, as well as handle all the new shit that keeps coming. And let's not forget the defended everything Bush did, but now it's all wrong.

But 9/11 that was Clinton's fault, and Katrina well that was everyone but Bush's fault. The economy..I've seen people (the right) blame that on Clinton and Carter...no I'm not kidding.

So as far as the "right's" concerned Bush/Cheney were not responsible for anything. No blame can be placed on them for anything that happened when they were in office.

Love that double standard.

in the new issue of Rolling Stone... Don't read it if you don't want to be further disillusioned or feel even more betrayed..

While we can blame most all the current problems in this country to the right wing leadership of the past 30 years, the Dems have either sat back and let it happen, or joined in the fun. Including Obama. I'm really hoping to have to see a retraction of some of the facts in the Rolling Stone piece, but I get the feeling it's all true.

Who cares whose fault it is?

Eight years of it + plus massive republican deregulation = today's tragedy. Salazar is expected to clean up the mess in a year and a half? Some think. I don't.
http://www.politicususa.com/en/deregulation-blame-cheney