Jon Stewart is tearing Obama a new one

on matters human rights and maintaining the Bush executive excesses.
Wake Up Obama. Jon is speaking the truth.

Right on Mr Stewart

What a waste of an Oval Office speech & setting although it's a great place of SNL sketches.

This massive disaster is the equivalent of a direct attack on the shores and waters of America, and our country should have reacted as if we had been put under attack - because WE ARE UNDER ATTACK.

The President should declare that the military will defend our shores and take full control of the offending oil rig and freeze all BP funds in the US banks and financial institutions.

I was wondering...

:evilgrin: :hi:

I read the exact same thing in another thread, almost word for word.
Anyways...I am disappointed in Obama in this area.

See, Jon doesn't go on the air live, he... Oh, forget it.

Because of when he tapes the show, everything is always a day late. Upside of that, is that it does allow him to throw in some of the more ridiculous bits from FAUX and Fools and the morning right wing radio shows on occasion.

I think it tapes around 4-5

Yep, I know

But I'm discussing it.

Sorry if that bothers you :)

But it's in the wrong thread...

you might want to post in the things I know Jon will say tomorrow night thread...

:hi:

so sorry to offend your "rule"

so sorry to offend your "rule"

what Stewart did have to say about Obama was much, much worse

It's inappropriate and outright rude to attempt hijacking threads like that.

And you're very clearly not sorry. Why don't you take your patronizing attitude to some other, less respectful message board?

watch tonight for analysis of the address.

You've got to work on your trolling technique.


Too obvious.

the planet ... and humanity!!

Enough of the "war" crap -- and enough of the financing for wars.

I've been scanning posts around the web about BP's responsibility and cannot believe the forgiveness so many feel because it was 'an accident' that BP 'didn't intend'... people are missing the point that negligence counts. That paying off (or colluding with) the government (this is where hard evidence is sorely needed) to look the other way and 'trust the free market' is a crime. But conflicts of interest are accepted as the way business is done. I hope we learn.

don't have to look quite so far to find out what we are talking about.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/16/stewart-critiques-obama-f_n_613937.html

Also, of course, and for a longer time: The Daily Show, June 15, 2010.

This is the best Jon Stewart ever. You must, must, must see this.

:)

as far as comedy goes. This rated high on truth-iness.

Between the two, I'm more apt to watch the f you again and again and again.

All of these pundits are so useless.

When he is President, maybe he'll do things right. IN the meantime, he's just another loudmouth.

You damn sure didn't hear the M$M bobbleheads tell the truth about Cheney's puppet.

Stewart isn't a pundit, he's a comedian.

but Obama made promises re Gitmo, moving prisoners, the Patriot Act etc., and he is doing the same crap as Bush.

Explains it :))

So apparently you can't handle disagreement about your hero Jon STewart? Why is it such a sin to support Obama while listening slavishly to a comedian? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

What was he incorrect about?

He campaigned against warrantless wiretapping, renditions, unconstitutional prisons, etc, yet he is continuing these policies.

What is it about that you disagree with Jon Stewart about? You didn't disagree with you him, you just bashed him as a person without addressing anything he said.

that Obama told blatant lies while campaigning, and someone has the video tape to prove it

A: They can't hear you so you are obviously performing for an audience.

B: The worst thing that happens when Stewart screws up is I don't smirk or laugh or I am not entertained. Oddly we actually require our leaders to do a bit more, so unfortunately the bar is slightly higher.

C: What they really "couldn't handle" is the idea that Obama is above criticism for some reason and being a crazy issues nut (like most progressives) I find idea to be absurd. I don't do personality, I do policy.

But I am just guessing here.

:rofl: Pot meet kettle!!!:rofl:

So many new additions since the grave-dance thread!

Your ignore list must be HUGH. It would probably do me good to have one, but I'm just too damned curious as to what I'm missing!:)

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over the top claims such as "doing the same crap as Bush." The entire government was not going to change and this was still going to be the same country.

I agree with a lot of what Obama says, but defending him here is just a matter of shooting fish in a barrel at irrational claims about him.

He showed clip of Obama's promises about Gitmo, rendition, trials, habeas corpus, and wiretapping.

Then showed the clips where he abandoned each and every one of these promises.

It was nothing but the "inconvenient truth."

If you have trouble accepting that, call or e-mail the Whitehouse.

Stewart was just reporting the facts.

OMG, that is so OTT.

See you make it easy to defend anyone with this kind of exaggerated, OTT, absurd and ridiculous reductionism.

It would be possible to defend Bush himself had you treated him to this kind of language.

Here is the link:


http://www.thedailyshow.com/

Play: "Respect My Authoritah"


I didn't produce it, I was just describing it.

It's all party over principles with a lot of people.

When he threw his support behind the murderous coup regime in Honduras, *that* was the point I knew Obama was just like any other American president...

That's worth something!

"When he is president, maybe he'll do things right"?... Is it my imagination?, or am I hearing an echo of Hillary Clinton saying the Martin Luther King's marches and speeches wouldn't've made "the world a better place" if it weren't for Johnson signing civil rights legislation into law.

"just another loudmouth" ... right ... like MLK and Gandhi and George Orwell... and George Carlin.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

The Constitution doesn't mention leadership, but it does

protect a free press -- and with that gone, we have JON STEWART!!

Just as an aside, do you know that in Italy there used to be a law that

you couldn't laugh at a Catholic priest . . . in the streets?

Ridicule is a powerful weapon -- as most people know.

Jon just showed footage of Obamas mischaracterization of what he would do from 2007 and 2008 and actual footage of him doing exactly the opposite of what he promised. The only loudmouth was Obama lying before cameras.

When you start blaming people for paying attention, it's hard to be taken seriously.

Maybe someday the President will be able to do something to. Get a grip. You have absolutely no idea what charities and efforts Jon Stewart contributes to. For one thing he paid the salaries and protected the jobs of all his writers during the strike. His support of unions is well known and that is more than can be said for this Admin. And Jon isn't a talking head,he is a comedian and mocks everyone. It is too bad you haven't a sense of humour. And what have YOU done to make the world a better place?

Just giving our opinions like you're here doing and what Stewart, Maddow, and Olbermann are doing as well.

Get a grip.

Hmm... you know at the end of a loooong day, after slaving to the grind, after watching the Gulf turn black, after reading the latest smear of Gays, after watching people try to clean the oil off of birds in the gulf, after seeing the casualties in Afghanistan, I lay down in bed and flip on the TV. There is Jon Stewart, turning my incredibly foul mood into laughter and happiness. Then I think about the other millions of viewers who also slaved, and saw the world as I did. I think about how Jon is making them feel.
Then I think about those millions who's foul moods have been turned to laughter and I wonder how many spouses, friends and children will avoid the inevitable blowback from those foul moods because Jon Stewart made them feel human again. Then I think of how useless Jon Stewart is. :rofl: :rofl:

Then I think how incredibly sad it is that a person could be so beholden to a politician that they would slam an individual who has spent years of his life bringing laughter and happiness into peoples lives, by calling him useless.

How many people did you make LAUGH today?

Useless my ass.

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I even Tivo'ed it so I can watch it again today.

Don't you just hate it when somebody has tape of your broken promises?

tape is forever... Although I never thought I'd be thinking that about a Democrat.

Yes...the "Obama farted too hard" vs "Obama isn't farting hard enough" every time he man passes gas from FOX News is truly comparable to holding his feet to the fire to make him keep more of his campaign promises. (Something he asked us to do in fact...)

Really...so easy to make that comparison. I can see how they often confuse the two.

Never on purpose, mind you....

must be tough to type with your head in the sand...

He and HughMoran need to start an anti Walldude club.. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

to. You can attack the messenger all you like, but it doesn't change the truth of the message.

Your response is totally fucked up.

You probably need to go wash your pom-poms

You know, the promises that got people to vote him into office?

Yet another vicious tactic -- the marginalizing mambo....:eyes:

right-wing-lovin' tea-bagger, pointing out Obama's lies and stuff.

Damn hater.

n.t.

humor. That's one way of making the world a better place to live in.

Sadly, even our current president is deserving of the criticism he is currently receiving. I'm just sad that it's come to this, though. I hoped for much more.

Olberman and Rachel are another --

"The myth of a free press died with the assassination of Pres. John F. Kennedy" --

Like the current President, for example.

Good thing EPA sec. Ms. Jackson wasn't feeling Jon's jokes.

shrieked over for ten years. that is jon's job to call bullshit.

and in an ironic twist validate Bush's presidency?

With each passing day, some of the Obama die hards are starting to resemble more and more the Bush die hards. The more things "change"...

You know, "hold his feet to the fire" and all that.

So why are you pissed at Stewart for doing what Obama asked? Do you hate Obama that much?

...revealing.

:shrug:

:shrug:

He'll see it, you can bet on it.

Now the not caring thing, well I'll have to agree with you on that one. But maybe it will take a mocking comedian to get through to him, because he sure isn't listening to the left.

edit for K&R! So far John has managed to steer clear of the underside of the bus. Let's see if this doesn't do it for him...

It's too bad our President, who I voted and campaigned for (never again on that one)doesn't care what he's doing to what America once was.

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/14/tortured-canadian-th.html


http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/06/arar-supreme-court/

the canadians admitted they were wrong but not obama


really... what has changed? he refuses to adress the greivences against our country.

this is not what i voted for

Just kidding. It's Jon. He's earned it.

It was Obama tearing Obama a new one.

Jon & staff merely assembled clips of Campaign Obama, and played them in sequence with President Obama directly contradicting himself...on rendition, Warantless Wiretapping, Guantanamo, Extra-Constitutional Prisons, and issuing Death Sentences from the White House.

It was sobering...not funny.

New episodes come on later in this area--Arizona.

horrifying to be reminded that these promises were broken. As Stewart said, "Obama based his entire campaign"on these issues.

We were totally on board with Candidate Obama, but President Obama is an entirely different animal. We are not the ones who "turned on" or "betrayed" anyone.

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Obama better wake up.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/

n/t

It focuses the emphasis where it belongs, not trying to derail the subject by shooting the messenger (as has been attempted above).

:-(

You don't need to be a comedian to do what Stewart did. He's just doing what the M$M should be doing but aren't.

:cry:

Seriously, what's with the idiotic teen speak?

Do you walk around with your pants down to your knees, showing your underwear to everyone?

So why talking here like you do?

Seriously, the language is idiotic, that's all.

How about telling us exactly what the good thing is in what Jon says instead of the sexual imagery?

This type of language will not do anything good.

Attacking someone at the personal level (which I did not do, I asked *her* why she was behaving like a teen) does not do anything good.

Attackign someone's action, now that's something else.

"Ripping a new one" is not criticizing someone's action, it's just plain insult, the type of stuff you hear and see on the other side of the aisle.

We're better than that.

We don't have to walk in lockstep with Obama, but between insulting and criticizing, I pick the latter, as it is the positive approach.

But, before you go... mind telling me where I can get me one of them "high horses"?...
:tinfoilhat:

Thanks for my first laugh of the day, LooseWilly.

Very funny :D

Obfuscation never makes sense

n/t

:puke:

is your underwear too tight? what's up w your comment? :eyes:

Esp. my grandpa...

"So why talking here like you do?" Is this teen speak for "watch what you say boy?"

People in glass houses....

He's a national treasure. We need these court jesters because the media is worthless.

When Jon speaks people listen...... then laugh..... and then start to think.

Too bad he's not President.

Obama wanted us to hold his feet to the fire. That's exactly what's happening now.

Would love to hear it.


He needs to have a new one torn.

k and r

K&R

I was pretty surprised, the other night, how off Stewart was with his comments. Never even mentioned voting irregularities.

"Beacon Of Freedom" and the "champion of human rights."

that was the candidate we worked for - that was the candidate who's victory brought us to tears. So, where's all the "he never said" crowd? Yes, he did.

Our Democracy cannot survive without a well informed public, and there is more worthy news on his show than anything on Fox, CNN, or the big three networks, for that matter.

K&R

and even though we know these things, watching the promises versus reality was painful. It's hard but we can't lie to ourselves. Jon merely presented facts.
Time for Obama to wake up.

I voted for Obama because:

#3: I'm a Democrat

#2: Because the thought of McCain/Palin in the WH made (and still makes me) violently sick :puke:

and the #1 reason: BECAUSE I BELIEVED THAT HE WAS A MAN OF CONVICTIONS AND WOULD RESTORE DIGNITY, INTEGRITY AND A REGARD FOR BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS.

He is disappointing me in several areas ... but on the flip side ... he is exceeding my expectations in other areas.

But goddamn it ... to continue the policies of the war criminals Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice. Absolutely f**king disgusting.

Having just recently learned that the CIA trained Iran's former secret police force (SAVAK) on how to torture women (mind you, I'm well aware of the US government's, acting through the CIA, efforts to institute and sustain Shah Pahlavi's rule over Iran, in no small part by training SAVAK) but to train them to torture women. There is just something (I can't put my finger on exactly what it is) fundamentally, horribly immoral about this.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH OUR COUNTRY??? :cry:

Long overdue for Jesus Christ to come down here and do some very serious ass-whipping.

Wow...

If ever there was better underscore needed of the case that it's not about the speed, it's about the direction, this one brings it.

K & R.

he has not kept his promises on these matters and they are critical issues.

And Jon pointed that out better than anyone has to date.

Kudos to the Daily Show.

Obama's solution to the Oil Spill - "get down on your kenes and pray!" <Paraphrased because I don't feel like typing out five mins of that part of the speech.>

So I imagine the A__ hole tearing will continue to night.

but like you the godspeak really annoyed me. Apparently lots of folks love that particularly those in Gulf states.

"He needed to show some emotion."

I have no idea why anyone thinks emotion will help. I am sure a lot of us including the President, shed tears (at times) when we see one of the oil saturated birds or animals - but unless it gets us to take action, the emotion is just that.

They want an angry black man on video before November and it's just not part of his makeup.

That's it exactly.

Thanks for the thread, malaise.

Since I reduced my cable, it helps to know when something I should watch was on.

since he got elected --

That's where they get their material from, especially when they trash Dems like Kerry and Obama.

big fans, yep. :D

And that is true about Snakemer.

:wtf:

I was longing to have a constitutional professor in the White House who said he would restore habeas corpus, close Guantanamo and end "extraordinary rendition," and candidate Obama had indeed said he would do those things.

Sometimes the way people shout down my statements of disappointment with what President Obama has done, I begin to think-- Gee, did I really hear him say those things? -- Folks are shouting that I shouldn't have expected him to be a fierce advocate for restoring the rule of law and getting rid of the worst abuses of the Bush Gang, but he DID say those things. I wasn't wrong to long for him to follow through with those pledges.

And like I've said before, the fact that he was practical or pragmatic didn't worry me because moving fast on millions of green energy and infrastructure jobs, national health security and restoring habeas corpus are very practical things that would strengthen our country.

We had our Democratic majorities and a mandate to lead. The GOP was at 29% popularity. The people's bailout of Medicare for All could have logically followed Bush's crash and bailout to Big Finance. But we did some peculiar bipartisan dance, instead of saying that we would like to be bipartisan but the modern Republicans had strayed so far from their party's ideals like fiscal restraint and a strong defense that we just could not do that right now.

A practical president could have said he would like to endorse more offshore drilling but the clean up technology lagged so far behind the drilling technology that he would not do it without a commitment from big oil to devote 15% of their profits to clean up technology R&D and a fund to more rapidly compensate victims of their many spills.

He could have said he would like to endorse expanding nuclear power but the waste issue had yet to be tackled, and therefore, it would be better to put the funding into aggressively expanding solar, wind and conservation technologies right now.

Promises must be kept and I know fundamental change is hard given the tentacles of RWs in all institutions but it's time for Oman to deliver on promises.

It is really sad for me that the 21st Century Green FDR dream I had for President Obama and the Democratic majority would have been very practical and pragmatic for the majority of us.

Love the Daily Show!

K&R

ads for Pat Toomey on this page?!!! He is at least as bad as Rick Santorum was, quite possibly even worse. Does D-U have no control over this sort of thing? I am absolutely appalled.

that the politics of the situation are going to have a devastating effect on anything progressive. Already the talking heads are accusing liberals of not holding Obama accountable, comments I get at work like, Where are the war protestors? Where is the ACLU, when Obama extended the patriot act? What about DADT and equal Marriage? Where is Hollywood holding Obama accountable.

The illusion it creates is that progressives are unprincipled.

It was great.

:D