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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:17 AM
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Remember when we had Obama's back? - by citizen k
Remember when we had Obama's back?
by citizen k

Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 07:52:40 AM PDT

Remember when Holder insisted on public trials for "terror" suspects and the storm of demagougery and douchebaggery was drowned out by the unified and active "progressive" left? How we organized protests? Sent flowers to Holder for backing the rule of law? Stormed the media? You don't?

What about when Van Jones was attacked? Do you remember how we mounted a counter attack - explaining to the public why green jobs were so essential and how Glenn Beck wanted to make them poor? I mean, we are the base: when the President does wrong, we are there with constructive criticism like "corporate whore", "idiot", and "naive clown", but when he does right, we are at the damn barricades, standing by him. Right? Aren't we?

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more:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/6/16/876438/-Remember-when-we-had-Obamas-back
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:26 AM
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1. many here accepted Obama begrudgingly and had his back just so that they could stab it
as soon as they had an excuse.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:31 AM
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4. Simplistic bs. nt
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:38 AM
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13. occam's razor is sharp
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:35 AM
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10. Yeah, that's why we wrote him checks and went door to door too

You couldn't write a more ridiculous post.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:43 AM
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18. Up is down, black is white
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 10:44 AM by depakid
The reverse has clearly been the case on issue after issue and constituency after constituency.

Sad but true.

The Obama administration chose to cast their lot with the country club crowd, rather than dance with the lot that brung 'em to the ball.
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:56 AM
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22. well, you do live in the Land down Under
you didn't bring Obama anywhere, mate.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 11:11 AM
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30. Do you have some proof to
back up that baseless and insulting statement or did you have such unrealistic expectations that blind party loyalty would cause the base of the party that helped get them elected to overlook a continuation of Republican policies and no accountability for Republican crimes?

If it's not the latter, I think you need to provide something to back up your statement otherwise it looks like someone pouting because people find it hard to give up their principles out of party loyalty.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:27 PM
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37. YOU ALWAYS HATED HIM!!!
:eyes:
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:29 AM
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2. a left-bashing OP?
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:29 AM
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3. no
a liberal cut and paster-er,
peace, kp
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:37 AM
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12. sorry, didn't read it right! thanks for posting!
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:33 AM
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6. Article conclusion
After all that. It's outrageous how Obama wants to just throw us under the bus all the time. We have his back, why doesn't he reciprocate? It's a political mystery.


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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:37 AM
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11. thanks! my bad!
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:49 AM
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20. The diarist linked to is
a left-basher. Lots of it on that blog. Not a place for progressives unless you enjoy being attacked on a regular basis. It's a party blog and has been from the beginning. The owner is a former Republican and so are many others there. 'Liberal' has been a dirty word there with the owner backing up attacks on them for a long time. I would give examples, but it's not worth the effort. So, it is no surprise to see left-bashing there. It has a long history of driving the most progressive voices, many of them very well known like Greg Palast, Cindy Sheehan eg, off the blog.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:33 PM
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38. that was my impression, even skimming the article; but maybe i just
read it wrong?

thanks for explaining
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 11:57 AM
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34. I'm not seeing what kpete and Catherina are seeing, fyi.
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 11:57 AM by EFerrari
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:35 PM
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39. that makes me feel better! it really did seem as if the article was making some
thinly veiled digs at the left.....
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 02:25 PM
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41. Yes, that's how I'm reading it. Not very helpful, imo. n/t
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 02:39 PM
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42. Typical snide from that source, fyi! Slamming the left as usual n/t
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:38 AM
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14. Nothing new there. On DU, no less. n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:38 AM
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15. Considering the source of the article, yes. A well-known
left-bashing blog and diarist, with many such diarists doing the work of the DLC which is why so many progressives get banned there and so many just leave in disgust.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:32 AM
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5. I had their backs, but I was just one person!
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 10:33 AM by FrenchieCat
I tried again last night.....but few joined me!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x341105


"This victory alone is not the change we seek. It is only the chance for us to make that change. And that cannot happen if we go back to the way things were.

It can't happen without you, without a new spirit of service, a new spirit of sacrifice.

So let us summon a new spirit of patriotism, of responsibility, where each of us resolves to pitch in and work harder and look after not only ourselves but each other."
- President-Elect Barack Obama

When President Obama accepted victory in Grant Park, he called on all of us to join him in ushering in the change we all were seeking. Did we answer the call? Have we rolled up our sleeves and fought for real change?

I would argue that very few did. Most of us celebrated and waited for Obama to do the heavy lifting. The country was facing a devastating financial crisis while conducting two wars. We were celebrating the victory, but not looking at the overwhelming challenges our new leader was facing. We expected sweeping change, but for the most part we left the battlefield and expected Obama to bring us that change.
http://www.readersupportednews.org/opinion/75-75/2201-blaming-obama-is-easy-and-irresponsible
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 11:11 AM
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29. Yeah, we don't have to pitch us, just wait to be "led."
:sarcasm:

Or at least, that's what I see a lot of. We just sit back and wait for the Decider to decide everything we want to happen should happen now.

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 11:45 AM
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33. I, for one, have spent 18 months milling around on the battle field waiting for orders
:shrug:
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:33 AM
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7. Perhaps we aren't as quick to crow amongst ourselves about Obama's good moves because...
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 10:34 AM by MilesColtrane
we elected him to do the right thing and expect it as a matter of course.

That aside, I have seen the occasional post here giving props to the President when he does something good.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:33 AM
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8. Rec'd. n/t
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 10:34 AM by Catherina
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:35 AM
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9. What "public trials for terror suspects" are you referring?
All I ever heard was some talk and as soon as Republicans objected the talk ended..We never had a chance to "have his back"..He flipped at the first sign of Republican reproach..As he has done on virtually every single subject..
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:39 AM
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16. Many do (nt)
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:40 AM
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17. Remember when the Dems had my back?
Pro-privacy.
Pro choice.
Pro-environment.
Pro civil rights.
Pro union.
Pro little guy.
FUCKING PRO WHALES!!

Where did they go?


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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:44 AM
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19. This about sums it up. Amen.
Seriously. I remember when they fought for these things just as hard as Republicans fought for corporations, gun owners, the religious right, the anti-choice lobby, and others in their base. And yeah, what ended up was somewhere in the middle of what both sides wanted. I get that.

The problem is now the dems start in the middle and the republicans start from their extreme and we wind up with something decidedly left of center and are told we have to swallow the shit with a smile or it means we hate Obama and are worse than Republicans.

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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 11:07 AM
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24. Good question. I remember when they voted to fund
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 11:14 AM by sabrina 1
Bush's wars over and over again, when 12 Senate Democrats voted for the Habeas Corpus destroying MCA, and we were told they just did it because they had to but if we just gave them a majority one month later, they would 'fix it'. We did. That was four years ago. And now we see this administration, far from fixing it, USING it to prosecute a tortured child soldier, which is against the Geneva Conventions.

In order to have the president's back,

I would have to be willing to cheer for Offshore Drilling! Sorry, I just can't bring myself to do that right now.

I would have to cheer for the Military Commissions Act. Well, I virulently opposed it under Bush, so I would have to flip-flop painfully to cheer for that vile piece of legislation which the president appears to no longer have any problem with and

I would have to go along with letting war criminals off the hook. Can't do that either.

With letting the corrupt Private Insurance Industry write our Health Care legislation.

With bailing out corrupt Wall St. Bankers and not even slapping any of them on the wrist.

Believe that Gays can wait a little longer for equal rights.

Turn a deaf ear to the clear disdain his administration has for 'the left' and any ideas for social justice they might have.

Agree that primarying failed Democrats is 'retarded' rather than the only way citizens have to remove worthless representatives from Congress.

I could go on.

I will 'have his back' on things he does that deserve support. But if I would not support Bush on issues that are important to most progressives, why did anyone think we would support those same issues just because a president has a 'D' after his name?

Talk about having 'unrealistic expectations'.
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 11:09 AM
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27. +1
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 11:09 AM
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28. When was this?
Who are you talking about?

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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 11:42 AM
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32. You have to go back a while to Carter and before
Long ago and far away . . .

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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 11:13 AM
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31. +1
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Cresent City Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:50 AM
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21. My disagreements with Obama don't blind me to where I agree with him
Let's take the part of last night's speech about renewable energy for example. He pointed out what we all know, that we only have so much oil here and can't drill our way to energy independence. The right is defending deep water drilling as we speak, and I have Obama's back on this point.

I disagree about who's in charge of the spill response. BP is running the clean up and the cover up and the government is reactive instead of proactive.

I disagree with his tendency to water down legislation to get a few republicans votes that never come anyway.

I wish there was more, much more that I could say Obama has right. On the things he does, I'm willing to back him up.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:58 AM
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23. i recall the ACLU strongly supported trial by jury. Obama listened to the Repos.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 11:08 AM
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25. Fuck Obama's back!!! We need someone more progressive lets choose .........../sarcasm
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 11:09 AM
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26. Many people are just negative
In fact some reveal themselves. They complain that some of us do not go out of our way to find something wrong, as if finding something wrong is a virtue all by itself, and failure to do that is some kind of blind following or whatever.

They cannot support anything in a positive fashion. Fault can always be found, so they'd support nothing, or overlook anything positive as just their due.

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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 11:59 AM
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35. Here we go again.
If we were only nicer, or worked harder, or sent flowers or licked his fucking boots.

How about this? How about he keeps, lets say, 50 to 75% of his promises, and then maybe we'll start doing our part again?
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:09 PM
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36. Who has our back?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:41 PM
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40. Those that don't run the party but they always fail.
Too much money on the other side that threats of lost support eventually make them tow the line.
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