A Hole in the World - Naomi Klein

long rid of humans. Don't know how the nuclear waste will play into it.

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We've just seen the tip of the iceberg, so to speak. The worst is yet to come, and could be one of the worst disasters in history.

I wish I could talk myself into thinking this is an unlikely exaggeration, but I can't.

When you think of the sheer physical enormity of this (in volume, distance, size, etc. and increasing every moment - unchecked and unstoppable) and the contamination that has no limitation (just water, just air, just... *something* - which is nothing to welcome either, but might've been a small consolation in some way), it's hard to imagine the range of destruction looming for what looks to me like the unforeseeable future - based on the historical record of past events (which until now were seen as catastrophic but now seem almost small in comparison to this monster).

The snowball - or - chain reaction - of effect and how potentially vast, both in terms of time and substance, is what boggles my mind (and pretty much terrifies me). Killing off a regional species or forcing mass migration of others, etc. doesn't just effect local economies, local ecosystems (though these are obviously going to be devastated as we're seeing already and in no way do I mean to undermine these losses at *all*), but I don't see how it doesn't end up affecting economies, ecosystems, species, health (human and non-human) on a near if not actual... global level.

Maybe I'm over-reaching, but yes, I think this catastrophe (not *accident*, Mr T. Bumbling Miscreant Hayworth,"sir"...) is, and will be of (sadly) historic proportions.

Feel free (anyone) to tell me my fears are extremely exaggerated... I'd love to feel histrionic and silly instead of feeling heavy with dread.

It's already well documented that ocean-floor landslides can cause massive tsunamis; there is a possibility that we could see something like that happen here. All that oil has to be coming from a very large pocket - what happens when that pocket is empty, with the tremendous weight of the water pressing down on it? There are also reports that there are huge methane pockets in the area, which could cause even more drastic problems.

You can go into the zone, but you cannot spend much time.

Chernobyl was the worst man made environmental disaster in human history, and nothing about the current Guld disaster comes close.

Hell, the first Gulf War and the hell unleashed by Saddam Hussein into the PErsian Gulf remains magnitudes of order worse than the current GoM disaster.

Odorless, Tasteless, yet deadly if you tarry too long in the zone...

While the Gulf is Nauseating to the senses, toxic on contact, and still lasts a lifetime. Yeah, your right, the Gulf and it's Nauseating smells for decades to come are much more human friendly....

Just because concentrated form of energy has different properties detrimental, doesn't make the Genie any more friendly..

Lol, Saddam Hussein, the Puppet installed by the US to battle Iran, refusing to go along with the program... He was murdered you know...

His neck torn by a noose, while the Economic Hit Men laughed and had to pay off their bets.

Oh yeah, where is Dubya, Rummie and Wolfowitz these days? Probably camping out in Columbia on thee 10,000 acre land holding bought by the WWF and suckers like you.

Thanks for agreeing.

...ever to happen to the planet?

It surely is.

It may grow to become the worst. We don't know that yet--but the possibility
is far from ridiculous.

You're ridiculous. And obtuse.

which is exactly opposite of the assertion made by the poster I responded to.

He chose to say the words "Fleet of Nuclear Power Plants" instead of a Solar Panel on every roof...

In fact, I haven't heard him say Solar once in that past few months, and believe me, I am looking for it.

We gave a company called Nanosolar millions of dollars for the most promising printed solar panel known to man, and yet all we see is them shipping the raw material to a factory in Germany for final assembly by robots!

You want to buy these panels that cost 50 cents per watt? Forget about it.

Fuck Obama and the DLC he rode in on.

makes you wonder where we are.

is from overseas. They still have a bit of Journalistic sense.

American media is so controlled, they have to watch out for the interlopers like SIN, All Jazeera and RT that don't have the incentive to placate the Big American Corporatocracy/

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at the bottom of the article. Naomi was a consultant for that show and it is really good.

snip...

Or else it was President Barack Obama expressing his absolute confidence that his administration would "leave the Gulf coast in better shape than it was before", that he was "making sure" it "comes back even stronger than it was before this crisis".


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Empty words that have no meaning & no credibility. This is the kind of reply I'd expect from Bush. :eyes:

After all, it would benefit the Concrete Manufacturers Lobby!

More from her article in the Guardian:

"f Katrina pulled back the curtain on the reality of racism in America, the BP disaster pulls back the curtain on something far more hidden: how little control even the most ingenious among us have over the awesome, intricately interconnected natural forces with which we so casually meddle. BP cannot plug the hole in the Earth that it made. Obama cannot order fish species to survive, or brown pelicans not to go extinct (no matter whose ass he kicks). No amount of money – not BP's recently pledged $20bn (£13.5bn), not $100bn – can replace a culture that has lost its roots. And while our politicians and corporate leaders have yet to come to terms with these humbling truths, the people whose air, water and livelihoods have been contaminated are losing their illusions fast.

"Everything is dying," a woman said as the town hall meeting was finally coming to a close. "How can you honestly tell us that our Gulf is resilient and will bounce back? Because not one of you up here has a hint as to what is going to happen to our Gulf. You sit up here with a straight face and act like you know when you don't know."

This Gulf coast crisis is about many things – corruption, deregulation, the addiction to fossil fuels. But underneath it all, it's about this: our culture's excruciatingly dangerous claim to have such complete understanding and command over nature that we can radically manipulate and re-engineer it with minimal risk to the natural systems that sustain us. But as the BP disaster has revealed, nature is always more unpredictable than the most sophisticated mathematical and geological models imagine. During Thursday's congressional testimony, Hayward said: "The best minds and the deepest expertise are being brought to bear" on the crisis, and that, "with the possible exception of the space programme in the 1960s, it is difficult to imagine the gathering of a larger, more technically proficient team in one place in peacetime." And yet, in the face of what the geologist Jill Schneiderman has described as "Pandora's well", they are like the men at the front of that gymnasium: they act like they know, but they don't know.

This piece rips your heart out, particularly the quote you pulled.

I have read the "SHOCK DOCTRINE" a must read. I am going for "NO LOGO" next. I admire this talented young person.
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do hate the oil boyz.

May Mother Nature toss Tony off of his yacht today!

and left him swimming in the toxic swill, coated in oil.

right...just so he Sinks, Baby, Sinks!:evilgrin:

Whoops, I made and inference to Solar Energy! Forgive me Obamabots!

god of the world was science. We like to think we know how to re-engineer our world but we are wrong.

Naomi Klein... Need I say more?

I don't see the cheerleaders going about Demonizing Naomi Klein as much as they try to Demonize me, but hey, I'm and anonymous blogger, so WTF do I know.

Regardless of my "Anonymous" "Little People" role I assume, Naomi Klein Nails it with a skill that I aspire to, but am too busy to pursue

She will be welcome at my refuge if the need arises, free of charge, for as long as I am steward of my land.

Thank you Naomi. Peace and strength.

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Thanks to her and thanks to you for posting.

What an incredible piece.

Our consumption based economic system

Honestly, we could be using water for fuel, but are too lazy to convert. Plus, a lot of money would be lost. Just theink of the metals used to transport unhelthy amounts of electricity across the country...

The simple anser is to stop consuming... Once you do, you actuall pay attention to your Location, location, Location.. The suburbs don't work, unless you have a Mom and Pop store emebedded to fill the need for milk.

Sorry, CCR's and zoning don't allow that......

Want fresh eggs? Own some chickens! It's that simple.. Oh wait, CCr's, and City Ordinances again.... Plus, have you priced chiks lately? Thats the gauge of inflation if you ask me..

Grow your own veggies! Oh wait, the first 200 gallons of water cost more that the rest, and you get a nice dose of Fluoride for your garden to boot. (And your car, and your kids, and your lawn, and your shower....)

The system is screwing everyone, but it's a death of one thousand cuts.

Save your rainwater. DONT DRINK IT (unless you are a biochemist and can test it for contaminants or distill it), but use it for your garden. They really hate the rain....

She tells it well in all its depth of ramifications and cautionary notes on next steps.

Check my Political video Playlist at

http://www.youtube.com/user/LiberationAngels

:hi:

I find your link chaotic and hard to follow

This same mistake is being made by Microsoft in their attempt to diminish the need for standards and allow choatic, free form User Interfaces in their futile attempt to keep up with Apple.

Don;t fall for it. Standards are good, otherwise we would not have the Internet.

Don't fall for Built in obsolescence.

Web sites are difficult enough to maintain without having thousands of variations thrust upon the viewer./

There, I have said my piece..

http://www.youtube.com/user/LiberationAngels#p/c/52B8310C97FDC419

Look at the vid on the upper right hand corner on the playlist for political videos

or this which should just make it play:

http://www.youtube.com/user/LiberationAngels#p/c/52B8310C97FDC419/0/Q4itfAVq19U

I am new to the Youtubes so be gentle.

It is there and I hope folks will visit my channel and look around and comment.

Your comment is appreciated.

Shucks. Sorry.

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