Want to really Hurt BP ?

Stop buying gas ....

Anything else is TOTAL bullshit ? ok?

I just want them to be good citizens and do the right thing now and in the future....

to the people who have lost out.

unless they are encouraged to do so by losing some business :hi:

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This is not an isolated incident. It is a direct result of our government not doing its job.

Blackwater, Exxon, BP, Haliburton.. you can bet there is plenty of criminal activity to go around.

I could live with that.

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I'm not actually buying gas if I get my groceries delivered.

Right?

That's the problem with this debate.

No one can agree on what's reasonable.

Most people rely on internal combustion engines once in a while.

In what specific circumstances is it ok and how would that change things?

And yeah, I think we should do what we realistically can to minimize our energy usage, drive as little as possible, drive a fuel efficient vehicle in a manner to maximize efficiency, etc, etc..

Your house is chock full of petroleum product any sort of life in a normal home requires some sort of use petroleum products.

If we were serious about hurting BP (which I don't understand) we'd have to all abandon all vestiges of modern life, go live in the woods using only the tools and food and clothing we make for ourselves from nature. Hopefully you remember how to make stone knives..............

So I'm buying *less* gas..

Sorry, that's the best I can do, there is _zero_ public transportation in my area and I do have a life, as pathetic as it may be.

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One needs to stop purchasing all things made of plastic. Plastic is made from oil.

I will get myself an electric car and charge at home from solar panels. I'm going to do it!

To even *think* about charging an electric car..

An electric assisted bicycle now or maybe a scooter would be doable..

I have a nice electric scooter, if we had the kind of road here you could ride it on I'd be using it for errands now but it's suicide to ride anything that slow given how narrow our roads are and how fast the traffic is.

and just use the back roads. I'd be happy.

Probably could make one yourself with the plans for much less, though.

someone else could I'm sure, that's pretty cheap for transportation though. Thanks for the info.

The best site I've found by far for information and discussion is http://endless-sphere.com/forums/ a great many knowledgeable posters there.

There are a great many design trade-offs in an EV and a lot to know in order to get one working properly with high efficiency, I would recommend spending a lot of time before you invest any money at all, for one thing the technology is advancing very rapidly at the moment and what is optimum now may be obsolete in six months.

No doubt about the technology advancing. I would prefer a four wheeled version of an erockit <http://www.erockit.net/> if I could build it myself. But it's way too complex for me and the two wheeler price is astronomical. But I like that concept best.

BP, and Wall Street and all corporations are in the business of making profits and jacking up share prices. They don't care about oil, and if you don't buy oil the money will move somewhere else.

Before you call other people's ideas "TOTAL bullshit" you might want to think your own through a little better.

Boycotting the BP brand is much more relevant and effective politically than your idea, much more intelligent. Boycotting the brand name - which is mostly what a corporation is - is far more damaging than boycotting a commodity would be.

Millions of working class people have no choice but to drive in order to get to work. For the fortunate few who can ride a bike to their office gig to then lecture struggling working class people about their "addiction to oil" is obscene.

and that is to check our tire pressure. If we all were operating at the recommended tire pressure, we would be saving a bundle of gasoline.

I am fortunate enough to live close to where I work so I can get by with driving very, very little. It's awesome.

Julie