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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:31 AM
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REP. ED MARKEY (D-MA):now we're up to 100,000 barrels
Edited on Mon Jun-21-10 06:46 AM by flyarm
REP. ED MARKEY (D-MA):now we're up to 100,000 barrels



Where was our government when BP was drilling this kind of well?? Where was the over sight????????
WE can all blame BP and we should..but where the hell was our government oversight???????????This is one of our most precious Bodies of Water..it provides food sources for all of us..and is a treasure for Marine life and Animal life..it provides barriers from Hurricanes, but heated up with Oil and dispersants could become a conduit for Hurricanes, to hit our mainland's.

Our Government turned over their responsibility to BP..from the get go!

As Markey says in this interview..

Markey quote: "and either to limit their liability or because they were grossly incompetent, they delayed a full response to the magnitude of this disaster"


Well folks ..our Government allowed this.and our Government delayed a full response to the magnitude of this Disaster...because they passed on their responsibility to each and every American ..to this horrid corporation that already had so many claims against them by our government..

Would you leave your child with a Known pedophile? ..This corporation was the pedophile..It had already been responsible for so many Fines and claims of malfeasance..

Now 63 days into this disaster we are finding out ..now..just now 100,000 barrels of Oil could be flowing out of the Hole in the earth?

And could have been flowing since day one!!!!!!!!!!

Our government sat back while millions of gallons of Dispersants were poured into our Gulf..Dispersants that are Known to be Toxic to both marine life and human life.

We on the Gulf called the media and our government officials in the early days of this disaster and we were lied to when our Eyes and throats were burning..and we were getting horrible headaches..and feeling like bricks were piled on our chests...from the very air we breathed !

Where was OVERSIGHT OF THIS RIG WHEN IT WAS BEING BUILT??????????????

We already know the Spill Plans were never read..by anyone in this Government..if they had been or even evaluated ..it would have been known the Spill Plan was nothing but a Bogus Pile of horseshit...and that is to put it mildly.

'Meet the Press' transcript for June 20, 2010
Haley Barbour, Mary Landrieu, Ed Markey, John Hofmeister, Katty Kay, Ken Feinberg



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37787941/ns/meet_the_press/

MR. GREGORY: Congressman Markey, we've got this live image on the, the, the seafloor that shows the belching oil into the Gulf. In many ways, this could become an iconic image of this presidency politically. But, substantively, there's a question of the oil flow. And here is a breakdown of what the projections of the flow have actually been that have been so frustrating to people. You go back to April 24th, they said no, it's 1,000 barrels per day; April 28th, oh, no, it's 5,000 per day; May 27th, no, 12,000 to 19,000; June 10th, 20,000 to 40,000; we find out June 15th 35,000 to 60,000. Now the president's out there saying 90 percent contained by the end of the month. Do you actually think that that flow, that rate of oil goes up before it goes down?

REP. ED MARKEY (D-MA): Right now, again, we're dependent upon BP and the execution of their capacity to be able to put a cap over this well. I actually have a document that shows that BP actually believes it could go upwards of 100,000 barrels per day, which would be about four million barrels ( Edit to add..I believe this is a typo in transcript and should be gallons a day). So again, right from the beginning, BP was either lying or grossly incompetent. First they said it was only 1,000 barrels, then they said it was 5,000 barrels, now we're up to 100,000 barrels. It was their technology, it was their spill camp, they're the ones that should have known right from the beginning; and either to limit their liability or because they were grossly incompetent, they delayed a full response to the magnitude of this disaster.


MR. GREGORY: John Hofmeister, you--you've been in the industry. I've talked to people in the oil industry this week who are not very impressed with BP. They said that they--there were about five different stop signs that they ran through when they drilled this well. What is your assessment, though, in this narrow space of how well things are operating right now toward the goal of plugging the leak?




MR. JOHN HOFMEISTER: I think we obviously have to find out what happened to cause the blowout. That sounds like gross incompetence or negligence or, or just pure mismanagement.

With respect to the cleanup, I think it's been ham-handed. It's been just awful. To use booms and, and mops and dispersants and burning and so forth, skimming with shrimp boats, where's the imagination and the scale? One of the things that the oil industry does best is it knows how to scale things, to do the big jobs very well. And scaling to me means bring hundreds of barges and block the marshes with hundreds of barges with big suction pumps. Take supertankers and cruise them back and forth and back and forth on the surface of the ocean, depositing the oily water in refineries on the coast.


Why? Why did our government turn over our Coast Guard and our National guard and the entire clean up on our lands and waterways to BP?..Again I will ask each AMERICAN..WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF DOING THIS??Where was the responsibility of our government doing this??????????????? Our present Government didn't have the right to turnover total command to BP..their job and responsibility is to Protect us and our waterways and our land..Our Government did not do their job of controlling the oversight of what has been done!

See this link..and ask yourselves..where is and was our Government oversight..where were they in their Duty and Responsibility to the American people??????????

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8601720
Thank you Wiseguy for your thread..

BP disaster started in February...Tony Hayward sold shares in March!

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Now we are getting this info..But we on the Florida Coast got horrible air when the dispersants were being applied to the Gulf. ( we were not warned nor told this is what was ahppening or what we were breathing..I imagine it was worse further north in the Gulf..but it was horrible in SW Fla!!)...no one monitored our air then in the early days..we dont even know fully what all we were breathing, that permeated our air for over 1 week!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8602318
Thank you Triana for posting this info;

Air tests from the Louisiana coast reveal human health threats from the oil disaster

The media coverage of the BP oil disaster to date has focused largely on the threats to wildlife, but the latest evaluation of air monitoring data shows a serious threat to human health from airborne chemicals emitted by the ongoing deepwater gusher.

Today the Louisiana Environmental Action Network released its analysis of air monitoring test results by the Environmental Protection Agency. The EPA's air testing data comes from Venice, a coastal community 75 miles south of New Orleans in Louisiana's Plaquemines Parish.

The findings show that levels of airborne chemicals have far exceeded state standards and what's considered safe for human exposure.

...

http://www.southernstudies.org/2010/05/air-tests-from-t...
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:35 AM
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1. Why did you purposely edit out
reference to the fact that the 100,000 figure was based on the event, which has not occured, of complete removal of both the well head and the BOP ?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:40 AM
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2. as per DU rules I could only post Four paragraphs ,
I posted the link for everyone to read..as per DU rules.I imagine people can read right??
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:44 AM
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3. Its here to save others searching
The documents anticipate a scenario where the blowout preventer and other equipment on the sea floor were removed, which was never done.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/20/bp-thought-spill-could-be_n_618879.html amongst others
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:45 AM
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5. Here's a reuters article-same thing...
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:57 AM
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7. now I am supposed to believe anything BP says?? sorry I don't have the faith you do
since on a beach close to me they are hiding the fact people are getting out of the water with oil on them and being told to wash down with Coment..

Fuck BP

fuck their lying asses!

And they are being allowed to lie and control our beaches and the very air we breathe!
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:51 AM
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6. we don't know what the hell has been done or what the hell happened..
Edited on Mon Jun-21-10 06:53 AM by flyarm
in the very early days after the Rig Explosion..on our Local Florida news ,..it was reported and corrobroated by our Fla Scientists from our Major Universities..that the main pipe was damaged in the explosion and that it was very weak and the worse problem BP had was worrying about it giving way and that the damage was further down in the hole than was known.

Sorry I don't remember the Tech. words they used at the time..but to summerize ..all the Fla experts thought the Main Pipe was extremely vunerable to breaking off if it had not already broken off....from the first days of the disaster..and it was broadcast in all of the SW Fla TV media.

They also stated at that time ..a timeline of not stopping the oil flow until August.
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End Of The Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 07:01 AM
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8. But we DO know that the BOP and the well head
are still in place! Hence, the 100K per day worst case scenario has not happened.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 07:37 AM
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10. I am not debating the well head..I am saying where was our government?
How do I know my air is safe?? It wasn't and we were lied to ..when breathing our very air to survive!..No testing was done when the dispersants were being applied..no one had answers except lies to those of us breathing it!..What do we do When our government has not be responsible to we the people? They have turned our beaches and our air and our water over to a corporation that has done nothing but lie! And been nothing but corrupt!

If you think I am pissed..you should have to hear the people all around the Gulf!

Anger like I have never seen!
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:44 AM
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4. Unrec for stupidly large text
Edited on Mon Jun-21-10 06:45 AM by HughMoran
Stop fucking screaming, we get it already. This is not news & as pointed out above, this is somewhat deceptive.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 07:06 AM
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9. No, we're not...
unrec.

Sid
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 07:40 AM
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11. I am supposed to trust these people and what they say now?
Edited on Mon Jun-21-10 07:45 AM by flyarm
BP was told of oil safety fault 'weeks before blast

By Hilary Andersson
BBC Panorama, Washington

A Deepwater Horizon rig worker has told the BBC that he identified a leak in the oil rig's safety equipment weeks before the explosion.

Tyrone Benton said the leak was not fixed at the time, but that instead the faulty device was shut down and a second one relied on.

BP said rig owners Transocean were responsible for the operation and maintenance of that piece of equipment. Transocean said it tested the device successfully before the accident.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_and_canada/10362139...

and don't miss this............

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8601697#8601742
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 07:49 AM
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12. am I supposed to believe anything these bastards say?????????


BP ‘burning sea turtles alive’

A rare and endangered species of sea turtle is being burned alive in BP's controlled burns of the oil swirling around the Gulf of Mexico, and a boat captain tasked with saving them says the company has blocked rescue efforts.

Mike Ellis, a boat captain involved in a three-week effort to rescue as many sea turtles from unfolding disaster as possible, says BP effectively shut down the operation by preventing boats from coming out to rescue the turtles.

"They ran us out of there and then they shut us down, they would not let us get back in there," Ellis said in an interview with conservation biologist Catherine Craig.

Part of BP's efforts to contain the oil spill are controlled burns. Fire-resistant booms are used to corral an area of oil, then the area within the boom is lit on fire, burning off the oil and whatever marine life may have been inside.

"Once the turtles get in there they can't get out," Ellis said.


http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0620/bp-burning-sea-turtles...
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 09:54 AM
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13. Why has our overnment not told us the truth?
and if they didn't know the truth ..or been lied to, why do they still allow BP to control our beaches, our water , our air , marine life and wild life and the clean up????????


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8602776

Thank you Nuclear Unicorn for posting this and telling the truth!!

see the rest at the link..

All the actions and few tid bits of information all lead to one inescapable conclusion. The well pipes below the sea floor are broken and leaking. Now you have some real data of how BP's actions are evidence of that, as well as some murky statement from "BP officials" confirming the same.

I took some time to go into a bit of detail concerning the failure of Top Kill because this was a significant event. To those of us outside the real inside loop, yet still fairly knowledgeable, it was a major confirmation of what many feared. That the system below the sea floor has serious failures of varying magnitude in the complicated chain, and it is breaking down and it will continue to.

What does this mean?

It means they will never cap the gusher after the wellhead. They cannot...the more they try and restrict the oil gushing out the bop?...the more it will transfer to the leaks below. Just like a leaky garden hose with a nozzle on it. When you open up the nozzle?...it doesn't leak so bad, you close the nozzle?...it leaks real bad,
same dynamics. It is why they sawed the riser off...or tried to anyway...but they clipped it off, to relieve pressure on the leaks "down hole". I'm sure there was a bit of panic time after they crimp/pinched off the large riser pipe and the Diamond wire saw got stuck and failed...because that crimp diverted pressure and flow to the rupture down below.

Contrary to what most of us would think as logical to stop the oil mess, actually opening up the gushing well and making it gush more became direction BP took after confirming that there was a leak. In fact if you note their actions, that should become clear. They have shifted from stopping or restricting the gusher to opening it up and catching it. This only makes sense if they want to relieve pressure at the leak hidden down below the seabed.....and that sort of leak is one of the most dangerous and potentially damaging kind of leak there could be. It is also inaccessible which compounds our problems. There is no way to stop that leak from above, all they can do is relieve the pressure on it and the only way to do that right now is to open up the nozzle above and gush more oil into the gulf and hopefully catch it, which they have done, they just neglected to tell us why, gee thanks.

read the rest here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8602776

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