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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 02:33 PM
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Not Upset by Hayward Outing
I am one of the people who is not upset at BP CEO Tony Hayward's yachting outing. First, the guy does have a personal life and has the ability to take some time doing things he likes. Second, at the time he was at and/or particiting in the yacht race it had been reported that he had been relieved of his day to day duties concerning the oil spill.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 02:34 PM
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1. Who wants that dick around calling shots anyway?
Its not like he is going to be crying...he doesn't give a fuck...so hell, what difference does it make. We want a different dicky executive in charge we don't hate yet.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 02:35 PM
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2. I'm not "upset," primarily because I expect nothing better
"I get to go yachting on clear blue ocean and enjoy a fresh sea breeze!" is kind of a gigantic "FUCK YOU!" to the people who's waters are swamped with oil right now.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 02:36 PM
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3. Yep...
I'm upset he isn't in prison instead.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 02:52 PM
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8. "I can afford to go places my incompetence hasn't fucked up yet"
is the message I get.

If you have enough money and privilege, you can easily get away from the small people and their tiresome suffering, no matter how much of it you cause.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 02:39 PM
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4. He's gay?
:dunce:
rocktivity
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 02:42 PM
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5. Hayward>Yachting= Bad. Obama>Golfing= Deserved Rest
Unless Hayward was supposed to be manning a shovel or operating a vessel of opportunity, who cares.
The same goes for Obama and golfing. You cant be pissed at one and not the other.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 02:54 PM
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10. I actually can.
Edited on Mon Jun-21-10 02:56 PM by aquart
I see NO equivalence between the criminal who caused the mess and the poor exhausted man trying to clean it up.

Of course, had a real regulator been appointed instead of Salazar, perhaps, in my fantasy world, a thousand inspectors (federal jobs program) might have descended upon the oil rigs, shutting down every one with substandard inspection results while the president weathered the tsunami of rage from Congress, the Gulf oil workers, and the powerful oil lobby. That was the road not taken.

But NOTHING Obama did or didn't do absolves BP or its management from THEIR obligation to take every necessary precaution to protect the Gulf and the men on that rig.

So I can very easily be pissed at the one and not the other. You've set up a FOX-like false equivalence and I ain't buying it.

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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 03:02 PM
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12. Great post. n/t
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 03:03 PM
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13. +1
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 03:51 PM
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21. Well said. nt
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 02:43 PM
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6. I agree. Let's reward all the criminals. Why stop here? Let's buy them new yachts.
I'm not upset about Bush being free either.

The thing I'm upset about is that all those people in the gulf don't understand their place. We should be proud to serve our corporate masters and not begrudge them a little relaxation after their hard work keeping little people in line.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 02:46 PM
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7. Well, those not engaged in boating or fishing industries in the Gulf might not.
Although some few of us who don't boat or fish for a living are able to summon up some empathy for them. There was Tony spending a day on a clean ocean, smelling the salt air instead of oil slick. Something no one on the Gulf can do.

But by all means, let's not see the contrast. Let's not feel the rottenness that this greedhead can leave behind the mess he made at the company he runs and have a really nice, relaxing day. Let's be FAIR.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 02:53 PM
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9. I don't think ayone should be upset about his outing.
First, HE'S not the one who's trying to fix the well! I'd e more upset knowing the technical guy who was really doing something took time to play, but even then, if any human tries to do a very ntense job for too lng without a break, they start making mistakes.

Secod, he's been in the Gulf region since April! For god sake, he deserves a litle brain rest!
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 03:05 PM
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14. he's the fricking CEO of the company. He allowed this to happen on his watch
Obama to a lesser degree. He hired Salazar, who didn't clean up MMS, an agency widely known for literally sleeping with BigOil.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 03:35 PM
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19. other than photo ops, I didn't see tony doing anything that required taxing his brain.
Edited on Mon Jun-21-10 03:36 PM by niyad
and, considering some of the things he has said, and done, it's pretty clear his brain wasn't working at all anyway.

do we know for a fact that he was in the gulf every day since the explosion?
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 02:59 PM
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11. Obama's "duties" are like cleaning up after a dog that has diarrhea
Edited on Mon Jun-21-10 03:01 PM by Sal Minella
and I would say he legitimately needs a break.

I don't understand what Tony has done that has earned him any kind of break.

We should coat him in oil and leave him in the Louisiana surf, imo.

edit for teh stpuid.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 03:06 PM
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15. I am one of those people who wishes he would find his 'personal life' at the bottom of the Gulf
Edited on Mon Jun-21-10 03:07 PM by Swamp Rat
I guess you have to lose your way of life in order to understand that sentiment.



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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 03:32 PM
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17. I most fervently wish everyone responsible for this horror EVERYTHING they deserve.
I want tony and co to feel the fear, the anxiety, the desperation, feel the inability to breathe, feel the helplessness--and see their damned bank accounts and wallets empty.

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 03:35 PM
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20. I want to force-feed Tony Hayward a quart of BP crude.
After that, I'd like show that death merchant how angry I really am!



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Urban Prairie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 03:21 PM
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16. Hayward gave a symbolic middle finger, esp. to those who live on or near the Gulf Coast, IMO.
If he needed a bit of R&R, why didn't he spend it on land somewhere with his family and "friends"?

Seems to me that he had more than enough moxie and energy left to steer a sailboat in a race, so he obviously didn't need to de-stress by resting quietly and discreetly out of the public/media eyesight.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 03:33 PM
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18. I loved the al jazeera reporter who said, "well, tony got his life back"
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 04:07 PM
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22. I am not concerned about either Tony or Obama needing a break.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 04:10 PM
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23. It's not about an outing. It's plunging his yacht into pristine blue ocean waters a world away
Symbolic, ya know?
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