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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:33 PM
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Joe Lieberman: US government should control internet like Chinese government
Liebmerman has proposed the "Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act:"


http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/06/20/lieberman-dismisses-concerns-over-internet-bill/

Lieberman said the Internet was “constantly being probed by other countries for weaknesses and that “we need the capacity for the president to say to an Internet service provider, ‘We’ve got to disconnect the American Internet from all traffic coming in from this country.’”

He cited China, which has long been criticized for its Internet censorship, as an example. “Right now, China can disconnect parts of its Internet in times of war. We need to be able to do that too.”


Please contact your Senators against this bill.

Internet service providers can respond to hackers and viruses.

They don't need the federal government ordering them to.

They especially don't need stupid orders like "disconnect the American Internet from all traffic coming in from this country."
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:35 PM
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1. Actually Joe, the U.S. government should control its politicians like the Chinese government does.
Your wrinkly ass would have been kicked decades ago.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:36 PM
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2. lol! nt
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:38 PM
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3. I'm sorry, but Joe Lieberman caucuses with Democrats, just like Bernie Sanders
Your post may therefore be in violation of the rules as a:

"Inappropriate attacks against Democrats"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8603151&mesg_id=8603151

I would suggest self-censoring until a moderator arrives to clear up this gray area. I will alert to see if we can get some clarification.
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:39 PM
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6. Ah, but he is not a democrat, he is an independent. I thought of that before posting about his
Edited on Mon Jun-21-10 06:40 PM by Happyhippychick
wrinkly ass.

I am interested to know if it is a violation, though.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:40 PM
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8. Gray area: Democratic Caucus member
Alerted for clarification. He was also endorsed by President Obama
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:41 PM
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10. And he campaigned for McCain. He truly is a maverick!
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:43 PM
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12. Also it states the democrat must be "prominent" which he might be, I don't know. But he's no demo.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:44 PM
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13. Hm....definitely we need clarification
All this gray area stifles debate
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 07:44 PM
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15. OK, Mr. Hall Monitor.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 09:57 PM
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22. Happy to oblige
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 09:22 PM
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19. Lieberman ran as an independent against a Democratic nominee
Bernie Sanders ran in an election with no Democratic nominee and the endorsement of the Democratic Party. That distinction was made perfectly clear on DU in 2006.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 09:58 PM
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23. He got 48% of the Democratic vote in primary, was endorse by Obama, and now caucused with Dems
Edited on Mon Jun-21-10 10:09 PM by Oregone
For God's sake, we're talking about the Democratic Vice Presidential Nominee here in 2000!

So...hm...its not clear cut here
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 10:30 PM
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26. I'm just telling you what the rules were in 2006
Advocating for Lieberman over Lamont in the general was against the rules on DU because Lamont was the Democratic nominee.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 10:34 PM
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27. In 2000, the Democrats wanted him a heartbeat away from leader of the free world
Do not--I repeat--do not attack this man!
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 11:51 PM
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28. I love your posts in this thread.
Well done and thanks.
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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 03:01 PM
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34. Traitor Joe is not a Democrat.
He is a sore loser who lost his primary and ran against the candidate that the Democrats in Conn. voted for. He campaigned with McCain and wants to give the President the same power over the internet that the Chinese have over the internet in China. Traitor Joe is due up in 2012 and I will donate to whoever is running against him.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 08:24 PM
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17. Beyond the DuZy.
Lifetime Achievement Award with this comment.

:applause: :applause:
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 09:15 PM
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18. I'm blushing. Muchos smoochos to you.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:39 PM
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4. there was a thread a few weeks ago about how the Chinese
government could pull down a slum and build new houses = no problems with all that pesky eminent domain.

The Chinese can also just start a train system - no issues.

This was admired.

so it's nice to see that at least some of the "conveniences" are not lauded.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:46 PM
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14. the Chinese built dams
and flooded whole communities that had been living there for centuries. No problem. The magic of China. Seriously it's nice that they have nice new infrastructure, it's not so nice how they go about doing it.

I wonder if Joe knows you don't have to have your computer or computing system hooked up to the internet.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:40 PM
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7. "
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:43 PM
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11. Locked away in prison, thank you. AND HE IS NOT NEEDED.
Violence is not advocated here.
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kgnu_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 07:54 PM
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16. Where are we now???
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vanboggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 09:43 PM
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20. Those darned inconvenient truths
Sucks when truth about traitors like you come out, doesn't it Joe Jackass. :mad:
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 09:50 PM
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21. Hey, Joe...
Edited on Mon Jun-21-10 09:50 PM by Lucian
why stop there? Why not put a telescreen in everyone's house while you're at it? Oh, and then make people "disappear" in the middle of the night if they criticize the government?

He's an irrelevant douchebag trying to remain relevant.
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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 10:01 PM
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24. To think, this guy was almost a stone's throw away from being President.
*shudder*

:scared:
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 10:16 PM
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25. were it not for Nader, Holy Joe might be president now
;)
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 02:50 PM
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32. As for would'ves and could'ves, I believe it more likely Dean would be President today,
having run in 2008 after serving as Al Gore's second term Vice-President.
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 01:56 PM
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29. Go to hell Joe
and take your pathetic tote bag of totalitarian bullshit with you.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 02:27 PM
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30. He just gets farther and farther out there
Way off the deep end, and still going...
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 02:33 PM
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31. China didn't create an ability to disconnect parts of their Internet for times of war,
they did it for times of peace, to control their own populace from being exposed to freedom of ideas and information, which the Communist Chinese government deemed a threat to their own autocratic power.

Thanks for the thread, Eric J in MN.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 11:20 AM
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35. You're welcome. NT
NT
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 02:54 PM
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33. I cannot believe we had this guy on the ticket.
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