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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 12:41 AM
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Medicare begins processing doctor claims with a 21% cut in pay.
CMS begins paying doctors at 21% less than before.

WASHINGTON -- The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) today began reimbursing physicians 21% less for treating Medicare patients after Congress failed to block the cut.

The lower reimbursement rate technically went into effect on June 1, but CMS had announced that it would not process claims for medical services delivered after the deadline, giving Congress additional time to block the 21% cut. This most recent grace period -- CMS has issued four such reprieves this year -- expired on June 17.

It takes 14 days to pay electronic claims, so in a few weeks, doctors will see reimbursements that are 21% lower than they would normally receive, unless Congress takes action or CMS grants yet another extension.

"It is, frankly, inconceivable that Medicare is beginning to reimburse doctors at a 21% cut over their already below-cost payment level," the Alliance for Speciality Medicine said in a statement. The group will be coming to Washington next week to discuss fixing the Medicare payment system.


Here are the percentages of doctors who are refusing Medicare patients.

For Medicare Patients, “The Doctor Is Out”

In a last-minute shocker, the Senate voted Thursday against postponing a scheduled 21-percent cut in Medicare reimbursement to physicians and other healthcare providers. Sixty senators were needed to end filibuster debate and stop the cuts under Senate rules. Fifty six voted in favor, while 40 opposed. There was no Republican support. (And, of course, no support from Senator Lieberman, who is a Republican in disguise.) Another consequence of the vote is that tens of thousands of Americans who have exhausted their jobless benefits would not be eligible for more. In addition, new taxes on wealthy investment managers would not be imposed, along with an increase in liability taxes on oil companies, leading Democrats to contend that Republicans were protecting Wall Street and the oil industry, according to the New York Times.

“We’re not going to give up,” said Senator Harry Reid, the Nevada Democrat and majority leader. “We know the American people only have us to depend on.”

Medicare has been holding all claims from June until today, pending the action that was “supposed” to reverse this 21-percent mindblowing decrease. Now that the vote is in, they will pay the claims retroactively at the lower rate.

This is really bad news for seniors. Thirty one percent of primary care physicians surveyed by the American Medical Association (AMA) said they would not accept new Medicare patients if the cuts went through. I predict much worse. A 21 percent cut is the death knell for doctors who have a lot of Medicare patients. Last month Medicare paid me $84.00 for a 99213 office visit. That was already unsustainable and the only way anyone stays in business is by seeing other patients with better payment. The new payment will be $66.36. Hello bankruptcy court.




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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 12:53 AM
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1. This will be linked to the Obama health care bill.
Edited on Tue Jun-22-10 12:54 AM by amandabeech
Any amount of campaigning among seniors telling them that the health care bill won't hurt them will be an exercise in futility.

I can't imagine what this will do to the healthcare system in Florida, madfloridian.

I have two seniors up in Michigan, one healthy and the other not. At least "not" has health insurance through the UAW, so maybe he won't be affected for the time being.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 07:03 AM
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10. It already IS being hung on Obama
My ex wife is retired in Florida. Her friends are all upset by it and blaming Obama. She is also blaming Obama.

All of this is purely anecdotal.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 10:06 AM
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11. Yes, many seniors in our area are blaming him.
Of course our area is very Republican, but it does give them something to worry about.
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SomeLogic Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 07:00 PM
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49. You can thank Pelosi, Reid & Obama For This
This is the latest proof that the "trio" will lie
about anything to get their way.

The "fix" for this was originally supposed to be
part of Obamacare. But if they implemented the "fix"
with the Health Care Bill, they would not be able to count the
scheduled 21% cuts as part of the first ten year deficit
reduction Obama touted for passage of the bill. Without this
"savings" the the $100B+ deficit reduction would
turn into a $50B deficit increase. This was onfirmed by the
CBO.

Obama forgot to tell everyone this in his radio talk last
Saturday.  He said that this "fix" had alwayd been
passed by the Congress; that it was a known fact. He blamed
the Republicans for "blocking" the bill. He
neglected to mention that it would wipe out the deficit
reduction he promised when trying to get the Health Care Bill
passed.

If Reid, Pelosi and Obama new this would have to be done.  Why
didn't they do it with Obamacare?

Because they then could not "cook the books" on the
"SAVINGS".

Lies, lies and more lies. If you read the new provisions for
the implementation of Obamacare, you will also see that the
"death panels" really are there; they have just been
renamed to "Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative
Effectiveness Research".

I would think that Obama would be thanking the Republicans for
their efforts to keep his promised deficit reduction in place.

You cannot believe anything Obama and his regime say 
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 12:54 AM
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2. many in the senate hate the disabled and elderly and want them to just die
death by a thousand cuts
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Go2Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 01:00 AM
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3. Where did the law to cut it come from? When did it pass?
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Go2Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 01:02 AM
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4. I see, it is due to the formula.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 01:22 AM
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6. Senate Delays Medicare Reimbursement Cut Until December
Senate Delays Medicare Reimbursement Cut Until December

By Annie Lowrey 6/18/10 3:01 PM

Pulling the Medicare provision out of the stalled jobs bill and voting on it separately, the Senate unanimously agreed this afternoon to delay a 21 percent cut to doctors’ Medicare reimbursement rates until December.

Due to the weeks it has taken the Senate to get to voting on the jobs bill — also known as the extenders’ package or H.R. 4213 — a fix would have lapsed and the cut to doctors’ payments would have gone into effect for procedures from June 1 forward. The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services have stalled on processing the payments, to give Congress time to get its act together. The House now needs to vote to approve the “doc-fix” provision. It is expected to do so first thing next week.

http://washingtonindependent.com/87473/senate-delays-medicare-reimbursement-cut-until-december
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 10:36 AM
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14. That was Friday. This is from the 21st.
"In a last-minute shocker, the Senate voted Thursday against postponing a scheduled 21-percent cut in Medicare reimbursement to physicians and other healthcare providers. Sixty senators were needed to end filibuster debate and stop the cuts under Senate rules. Fifty six voted in favor, while 40 opposed.Another consequence of the vote is that tens of thousands of Americans who have exhausted their jobless benefits would not be eligible for more. In addition, new taxes on wealthy investment managers would not be imposed, along with an increase in liability taxes on oil companies, leading Democrats to contend that Republicans were protecting Wall Street and the oil industry, according to the New York Times.

“We’re not going to give up,” said Senator Harry Reid, the Nevada Democrat and majority leader. “We know the American people only have us to depend on.”

Medicare has been holding all claims from June until today, pending the action that was “supposed” to reverse this 21-percent mindblowing decrease. Now that the vote is in, they will pay the claims retroactively at the lower rate."

http://getbetterhealth.com/for-medicare-patients-the-doctor-is-out/2010.06.21
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 03:55 PM
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23. Though the blog was published on the 21st, it refers to Thursday's cloture vote. On Friday
the Senate pulled the Medicare reimbursement item from the bill, voted on it as a stand-alone item, thereby protecting it from being put in place automatically by inaction on the larger bill.

Pulling the Medicare provision out of the stalled jobs bill and voting on it separately, the Senate unanimously agreed this afternoon to delay a 21 percent cut to doctors’ Medicare reimbursement rates until December.


Apparently the same method was used to avoid ending Unemployment Benefits extensions.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 04:41 PM
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26. It took 5 articles for me to get this clarified enough. That's wrong.
Doctors are getting pissed off, and I don't blame them. Maybe having a majority doesn't matter.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 06:35 PM
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33. Yeah, it's a process - The House has to vote, of course, and the President needs to sign.
Doctors who treat Medicare patients will be subject to a 21.3 percent cut in their payments -- at least for now -- despite a last-minute effort by the Senate to delay the cuts.

In his weekly address, the president asks Congress to act on Medicare measure. The Senate today passed a six-month extension of the so-called Medicare "doc fix" after Democrats agreed to a Republican requirement that the extension not add to the deficit.

The Senate's late action only gets the bill a third of the way into law. The measure has to be voted on by the House of Representatives and then signed by President Obama, and until then, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid have to pay doctors the reduced rates.


I fully expect the House to concur and the President to sign. This is not a done deal. And, fwiw, having a simple majority in the Senate meant little in this. The cut was legislated in 1997 to kick in automatically. Failing to pass cloture on the jobs bill, needing a 2/3 vote, meant that the cuts would be enacted *without any other action*. It's not as if the Democrats voted to cut Medicare reimbursement rates, it's that they couldn't get 2/3 to vote for cloture on the jobs bill, which included the Medicare provision. So they pulled the provision for a separate vote. It will go to the House and once passed to President Obama's desk for a signature.

If payments from June 1 on include the cut, as appears likely due to existing law, they will be adjusted back to current levels once the bill gets signed and the cut curtailed.

I'm sure docs are pissed - the Medicare reimbursement schedules have been long neglected and are way out of date with current financial realities. But this situation is a function of the 2/3 rule in the Senate, the 1997 legislation in place and reimbursement schedules that haven't been updated for decades.

"Maybe having a majority doesn't matter" seems to pose an opinion that discounts the process, the history of the matter and a probable end result. You're politically savvy. You know that leaving the game doesn't work. For anyone.

:hi:


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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 07:10 PM
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37. Pelosi will not hold a vote on the Senate doc fix bill.
http://www.californiahealthline.org/articles/2010/6/22/house-democrats-will-not-take-up-senates-standalone-doc-fix.aspx">Until the Senate moves a it's tax extenders/jobs bill.

She is holding Medicare hostage, it is unconscionable.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 07:27 PM
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39. I am not politically "savvy" when it comes to manipulating seniors.
Sorry I am just not that way.

They consider seniors unworthy when they do this.

This is about the real world when doctors won't take you as a patient because you get Medicare.

Yet at age 65 everyone goes on Medicare.

Hate to sound angry, but I am.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 09:32 PM
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42. I'm 57, disabled and on Medicare. See my post #34.
:hi:
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Paper Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 11:40 AM
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46. My daughter is a primary care physician. She has recently moved
Edited on Thu Jun-24-10 11:59 AM by Paper Roses
with her family to another part of the country.

Because of the very low rate of reimbursement by Medicare, she is seriously considering abandoning her practice.

She was with a group in her former state, and would choose to join a group here. She is questioning the wisdom of returning to her field.(Internal Medicine)

Lower Medicare reimbursement may make it so that there may be one less Doc available. Think about it, how can you run a practice when you have to spend a fairly good amount of time with your patients, pay overhead, staff, lights, heat, rent, insurance, self...everything that goes along with running a facility. And there are always those huge student loans to consider. Eight years of study, to get $66.00 to survive in a multi-Doctor facility? Makes no sense.


I can't say I blame her. She is young, a very good Doc, only 10 years in practice and is so very discouraged.

Don't blame the Doc's for the mess we are in, blame the government and mostly the insurance companies for their actions.

On Edit: This $66.00 is to run the whole practice, it does not go into the Doctors pocket.

The Doctors we need are leaving, the situation will get worse. My Doctor's office is no longer taking new patients. Many of them are surely Medicare patients. I don't blame the Doc's. Did you ever look at the staff in the office? There are so many whose job is paperwork. Government and insurance.

Meanwhile, the sick need attention and no-one in the medical field can do the job on $66.00.
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 02:50 AM
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7. this is scary ...
who are the Democrats who participated in blocking it? Republicans could not have done it alone.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 03:35 AM
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8. I think Rep Bunning (R-Kentucky) was the main hold up
He blocked the jobs bill too. If dems are smart, EVERYONE should know Bunning's name by the time this is over with. But somehow, I doubt Fox News etc. will tell the truth.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 10:07 AM
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12. Lieberman did. Don't know the others.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 11:05 AM
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15. They are playing games with seniors' health care.
There seems to be no trouble getting through those huge amounts for defense. Yet they get hopes up Friday and dash them today.

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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 02:40 PM
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20. They are playing games with EVERYBODY'S health care, because many

people aren't yet old enough for Medicare but don't have insurance through their employers--or private insurance either, since some people just can't get it and others just can't afford it.




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newblewtoo Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 06:35 AM
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9. I recently had
one doctor I have gone to for several years tell me that he would not accept Medicare!! I just sort of looked at him kind of puzzled. He said he did not have staff to do the paperwork. I still have private insurance but what happens when I turn sixty five in a couple years? Finding a new doctor familiar with my neurological situation won't be easy.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 10:33 AM
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13. Seems mostly just big clinics will take seniors.
Many doctors in private practice are being squeezed so much they won't do it.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 11:36 AM
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16. "Congress has finally taken its game of brinkmanship too far"
That is a comment by an AMA spokesperson.

"The Republican “Party of No”, all voted no on the cloture vote for the “American Workers, State, and Business Relief Act of 2010”.

The next day, Friday, the Senate did pass a special measure to delay the cuts for six months.

Dr. Cecil Wilson, president of the AMA, said in a statement on Friday, "Congress is playing Russian roulette with seniors' health care”.

"Congress has finally taken its game of brinkmanship too far, as the steep 21% percent cut is now in effect and physicians will be forced to make difficult practice changes to keep their practice doors open," Wilson said, adding that a longer-term fix is needed.

"This is no way to run a major health coverage program -- already the instability caused by repeated short-term delays is taking its toll," Wilson said. "About one in five physicians say they have already been forced to limit the number of Medicare patients in their practice. Nearly one-third of primary care physicians have already been forced to take that action. The top two reasons physicians gave for these actions were the ongoing threat of future cuts and the fact that Medicare payment rates were already too low."


http://www.examiner.com/x-21777-Las-Vegas-Democrat-Examiner~y2010m6d22-Senator-Ensign-votes-to-cut-Medicare-physicians-pay-by-21-percent
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 01:50 PM
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17. Did they or didn't they? Or do they even know?
Did they postpone it for 6 months or not.

How long will the payments be cut 21%....and does the community of seniors even understand why the payments are going out showing the cuts? I know one doctor's office that was assuming it was a done deal...the 21% cuts, that is.

Exactly how long will the doctor's pay be cut that much?

http://www.examiner.com/x-21777-Las-Vegas-Democrat-Examiner~y2010m6d22-Senator-Ensign-votes-to-cut-Medicare-physicians-pay-by-21-percent

"Last Thursday, the Senate held a cloture vote that would postpone the 21 percent pay cut to Medicare doctors and increase their payments by 2.2 percent through November of this year. The Senate vote was 56-40, with Senator John Ensign voting no, along with every other Republican.

The Republican “Party of No”, all voted no on the cloture vote for the “American Workers, State, and Business Relief Act of 2010”.

The next day, Friday, the Senate did pass a special measure to delay the cuts for six months."

I thought we had a pretty good majority in the Senate. But apparently not. People are not going to understand now that the threatened pay cuts are going out to doctors...for whatever reason.

Most don't pay attention that closely. But they will when doctors won't take them as patients.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 01:55 PM
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18. How's bout both houses of Congress cut THEIR pay, and all of their staff, by 21%?
They vote themselves raises year after year after year...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 01:57 PM
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19. More. Unbelievably complicated. Manipulating seniors.
"It takes 14 days to pay electronic claims, so in a few weeks, doctors will see reimbursements that are 21% lower than they would normally receive, unless Congress takes action or CMS grants yet another extension.

"It is, frankly, inconceivable that Medicare is beginning to reimburse doctors at a 21% cut over their already below-cost payment level," the Alliance for Speciality Medicine said in a statement. The group will be coming to Washington next week to discuss fixing the Medicare payment system.

The cut is mandated by the sustainable growth rate (SGR) formula, which links physician reimbursement rates to increases in the gross domestic product (GDP). Because spending on physician services has outpaced increases in the GDP, the formula has called for cuts in reimbursements each year over most of the past decade, and Congress has always voted to push those cuts down the road, granting small rate increases instead.

If Congress does pass a retroactive SGR fix, CMS will need to reprocess the claims it paid at the 21% lower rate."

http://www.medpagetoday.com/PracticeManagement/Reimbursement/20753

Did they vote the next day to postpone it until December, or did they not?

And who really cares? It's only seniors.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 02:41 PM
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21. this ain't good
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 03:10 PM
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22. Thanks. CAN WE FIX THE CRAPSURANCE HCR BILL NOW? Medicare For All. nt
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wysingm Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 04:27 PM
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24. Senate passed a six-month “doc fix” bill
The Senate passed a six-month “doc fix” bill http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=1&docID=cqmidday-000003686667&mp=Most_Viewed"> by voice vote on Friday after extracting it from a larger tax and benefits package that has been stalled for months.

The $6.5 billion bill would prevent a 21 percent cut to doctors who receive reimbursements from Medicare and increase their payouts by 2.2 percent. A previous short-term extension expired June 1, and the Obama administration has prevented the cut from taking effect until now.


:)
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 04:39 PM
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25. Looks like cuts will be in effect though for a while...then we start all over again..
in January.

If they are already sending out payments from that time it is still going to make doctors think twice.

They are playing games with seniors and Medicare. I had to read 5 articles to find that they are sending out payments with 21% cuts for a while...and that they did do a stall for a few months.

Reid said earlier the cuts might come due after the end of the year...it would hurt Democrats immeasurably. It is why they are waiting until after the end of the year.

This is no ok, and most seniors are not going to do extended searches to figure it out.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 06:01 PM
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31. But the House is holding it back trying to get unemployment benefits extended last I heard.
Pitting the elderly and disabled against the unemployed. For shame. How about putting a hold on some military spending.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 04:55 PM
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27. we keep doing everything backwards
wtf...
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 05:51 PM
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28. It's about getting rid of Medicare entirely, through the death of 1000 cuts
The corporate overlords do not want any social spending at all in government. They consider it a waste of resources that could have gone to them.
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 06:18 PM
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32. Precisely
Remember, this is being done to pay insurance companies for the cost of compulsory health insurance for poor people even though the overwhelming majority of Americans oppose compulsory health insurance, don't want cuts to Medicare and would prefer universal health care, an end to foreign wars, corporate subsidies, bailouts, fraud and bribery of public officials, dependence on fossil fuels and...well, you get the idea. And yet, most of us still believe we live in a constitutional democracy and in the quaint notion of popular sovereignty.
:rofl:
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 06:50 PM
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35. The election of Reagan was a watershed
Whatever it was that had been prepared during the first half of the decade was then allowed to pounce on a confused and unsuspecting populace.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 05:52 PM
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29. Prediction: those on Medicare will be shuffled to public clinics, which receive public
funding and therefore can handle the cut. Since many patients at public clinics pay nothing, getting even a reduced fee for service will be extra money for these clinics. Medicare patients who do not want to see the same doctors that poor/uninsured people see will be out of luck.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 06:43 PM
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34. I'm on Medicare. I receive primary care at a public health clinic. I've also been able to see
specialists, in private practice - gastroenterologist, hematologist and neurologist with no problem. All of them first rate.

Not sure what your point is in regards Medicare, but I've never been "shuffled" anywhere. :hi:
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 05:57 PM
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30. They fuck with Medicare ---
and they are fucking with my Mom.

That does NOT make me happy. :mad:

Hell Hath No Fury, indeed....
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 07:05 PM
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36. Pelosi needs to hold a vote on the Senate doc fix language right now.
I don't care if it's not the bill she wants or if it is just a "band-aid," Medicare will fall apart if these cuts persist.

Is this woman completely politically tone deaf?
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 07:17 PM
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38. drs get a 79% payoff?
what crap
my wife is a NP and only gets 60%

this is the basis for the problems in health care
insurance companies set their payouts on medicare payouts and medicare is already shortchanging the providers
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 08:49 PM
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40. THe last time I checked there were only two doctors in my entire community who were
accepting new Medicare patients. This will make it worse. What good is Medicare if you can't find a doctor who will accept it?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 08:58 PM
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41. The only way to find out if those 31% are telling the truth is to make the cuts and see

Something tells me they are being less than truthful.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 09:39 PM
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43. We could make the cuts and take whatever the consequences might be.
:shrug:
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 10:13 PM
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44. That, or Democrats go down in history as the party that killed Medicare.
I don't think you really grasp reality here.
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 08:43 AM
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45. This 21% cut is really deep. I think it will be fixed shortly, but Congress
is playing with our future here.

If you look at the economics of most medical practices, this cut really is unsustainable unless physicians start spending even less time with patients, cut staff, etc. I don't think they are BSing on this one.

Again, just like the last 9 or 10 times this has happened, I think the "cut" will be fixed.

But, this is the worst case of this crap I've seen and physicians have a right to be really ticked.
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Yo_Mama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 12:00 PM
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47. Pelosi's blocking it
Reversing the cut was passed in the Senate, but Pelosi is refusing to do the same in the House unless the reversal is packaged in with other things she wants.

I think this will continue for some time, because senators have no incentive to make Pelosi look good.

And physicians are really ticked. More and more of them are starting the opt-out process. You have to notify Medicare, then you have to give a form to each Medicare patient in your practice, etc.

See, it's not just the cut this time. It's also the second time this year the payments have been delayed. A lot of doctors offices will be laying off because of this.
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Yo_Mama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 12:09 PM
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48. Nope
31% is the number of family care practices not accepting new Medicare patients ALREADY. There are entire areas in which only one or two practices are accepting new Medicare patients.

There will be far more very shortly.
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