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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 08:36 AM
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Poll question: What will the president do about Gen. McChrystal?
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 08:39 AM
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1. if he does what he should, which is fire the bastard, I would be highly surprised.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 08:40 AM
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2. Doing nothing makes Obama appear weak
in comparison to the military. No president, R or D, can allow that to happen. Nixon came close to losing control at the height of the Watergate scandal. Carter ruffled some feathers, and he was a former navy nuke sub captain. Obama is neither a retired military man, a republican, or a candidate for a cushy job in the military industrial complex. That's three strikes against him.
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Broke In Jersey Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 08:43 AM
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5. exactly
you can't publically denegrade in any way or form someone above you in the military. Obama must relieve him of his duties.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 08:50 AM
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12. It is so clear of a choice, that I worry.
No drama Obama might try one more time, to rein him in. That would be a mistake. McCrystal's entire top staff has been indoctrinated with almost treasonous beliefs and actions. The fact that he permits that says a lot.

Obama has no choice. McCrystal must go.
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galileoreloaded Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 09:18 AM
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17. Thats the disconnect friend.
He isn't seen as being "above" them, but instead seen an a minor obstruction in policy and dogma. Frankly, the President isn't really doing much to solidify the credence lent him by the office. I have no idea why, but it comes off as "please don't leave me, I don't know what to do".
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 08:42 AM
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3. Demote Him...
Firing him makes him a right wing martyr...he'll be all over the place. Bust him to overseeing flights to the Antartic or shuffling papers in some back office until he resigns...preferably AFTER the election.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 08:42 AM
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4. I suspect he's going to let him hand in his resignation
:shrug:
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 08:48 AM
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10. My take, too. Altho my gut says he should fire the bastard ....
What I'd really like is for both Obama and Biden to take him apart in the WH meeting tomorrow. But Obama is a cool head. He's aware of the political fallout that will ensue if he get's mad and fires him. Besides, asking for his resignation is the equivalent of firing him, right?
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 08:44 AM
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6. Obama will compromise
and admit that he's unprepared and intimidated in exchange for no change whatsoever in McChrystal's behavior.

Same thing Obama does with congressional rapublicans.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 08:45 AM
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7. I really don't think he has a choice . . . he has to fire him
this was clearly beyond the pale . . . bordering on (if not a clear case of) insubordination.

Anything less than being relieved will make Obama look weak.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 08:47 AM
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9. I think McChrystal knows this and did it with purpose.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 08:51 AM
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13. that's an interesting perspective . . . he did this knowing it would force Obama to take action?
to what end? He wants to be fired? He wants to test Obama? He is sucking up to the conservative R's?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 08:54 AM
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15. Maybe he has political ambitions, or ambitions that can't be sought
while General in Afghanistan.

He clearly has disdain for the entire Obama Administration. It seems to me he wanted out, but took a shot on the way out. He forces Obama's hand.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 08:45 AM
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8. He should face dismissal and loss of pension
McChrystal committed a crime.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 08:49 AM
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11. B - he will resign
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 08:53 AM
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14. who is gonna apologize to who? there is some question as to that nt
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 08:58 AM
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16. I don't think Obama will do anything..
Edited on Tue Jun-22-10 08:59 AM by Fumesucker
But what he should do is tell McChrystal to resign and then allow it to leak that the press should look into McChrystal's role in the Pat Tillman friendly fire incident cover up.

ETA: My thinking being that the Pat Tillman thing will keep McChrystal's head down and keep him out of the media.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 09:23 AM
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18. I get a lot of huffing and puffing from McChrystal but not much of the
cool-browed long view.

Perhaps another person could serve in that role better.
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