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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 03:54 PM
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Aiming My Anger
I have posted stupid things on Democratic Underground.

I have done it many times.

I have done it under many circumstances.

Sometimes I've posted something stupid because I just couldn't resist making a smart remark when someone else left an opening.

Sometimes because I've been lazy and careless and didn't take the time to think it through before hitting the "Post message" button.

Sometimes because I misunderstood the semantics of what I was responding to.

Sometimes because my own views on the subject weren't well-developed or based on adequate knowledge.

And sometimes because of my anger.

I'm a highly-opinionated person and I'm pretty sure that no one on DU agrees with every view I hold. I'm also positive that there's no one else on DU with whom I agree on every view they hold.

But here's one thing I'm positive about:

I agree with EVERY SINGLE PERSON on DU about SOMETHING.

And, while some of the things I disagree with various DUers on are pretty important to me, and I feel very strongly about them, no one disagreement with a DUer is anything like as important or as strongly-felt as my opposition to the views, words, and actions of hundreds or even thousands of people who are NOT on Democratic Underground. People who have influence and power and who can take direct actions in their professional and personal lives that will do serious damage to my grandson's world.

But sometimes the anxiety I feel, and the anger those people (the ones NOT on DU) provoke, come bubbling to the surface when I'm discussing things with people on DU. People who disagree with me on that important subject. And then, since I can't get at the real perps, the true villains, I let the anger loose on the DUer. The anger has to go somewhere, after all, and in the heat of the moment I'm usually certain that since this particular DUer holds at least one view I disagree with and feel strongly about, they must be JUST AS BAD as the perps who are not on DU and who are out there doing actual damage.

Those DUers who disagree with me on one of hundreds of aspects of public policy and governmental action must be just like the ignorant, destructive filth who put profits before people, who are dedicated to looting public resources for their own personal benefit, who believe that people different than themselves are naturally inferior, hateful, or frightening.

And I forget all about the number of times I may have read a post by this very same person, expressing a view I hold even better than I could do so myself. I forget the number of times I have laughed at one of this person's posts, because they got it SO right. I forget everything except my own anger.

I'm a good writer and I can really write clever and hurtful put-downs when I'm trying. I can do it without violating any obvious rules, pointing out just how stupid and ignorant and silly that person's views are without making it a personal attack.

But of course, when I point out, in a clever and hurtful put-down, just how stupid and ignorant and silly someone's views are, what am I really doing? You know it, I know it, and the person I'm responding to knows it. I'm pointing out just how stupid and ignorant and silly THEY are, because they disagree with me on this one, terribly important thing. Never mind that they're here on DU with me because they agree with me on lots of other things. They disagree with me on this one, critically, overwhelmingly important thing.

It doesn't matter that they spend a good deal of time and effort making the world a better place in many ways, every day. Never mind that they have a wicked funny sense of humor and can skewer GOPpie folly effectively. So what if they are kind, decent human beings. Who cares if they have knowledge and experience I could learn something important from? They disagree with me on this important thing, so they must be a worthless idiot I can go right ahead and hurt in any way possible under the DU rules. And I'm pretty ingenious. I can do that, no matter how carefully Skinner and EarlG and Elad try to structure the rules to prevent me.

Usually, when my anger is aimed at another DUer I manage to pull myself back from the brink of hitting the "Post message" button before I pull the trigger. Sometimes it's enough just to have written it out, and I can delete the lot or just walk away from the computer for awhile.

It's easy to take out my anger at the narcissistic, swindling, illegitimate pond scum who are wrecking my grandson's world on other DUers who disagree with me on important issues. Sometimes it makes me feel better, for all of ninety seconds or so. And after all, it doesn't do MUCH harm to DU, does it? It's just one minor friendly fire incident. One alert, one deleted post, maybe. One other DUer who's had her/his comeuppance from me and now thinks I'm a stone asshole, and who will take it out on me next chance they get. One other DUer whose anger level just got boosted, and who might take it out on the next DUer who disagrees with them on something.

self-righteously,
Bright

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 04:01 PM
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1. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, TygrBright.:thumbsup:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 04:05 PM
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2. LOL!!
:D Yes, sometimes I write out a long post (more like a scathing hit piece) that rakes someone over the coals, but then I delete it after I write it all out. I often let it sit there for a while, in its raw, unedited form, looking at it to make sure I have blasted this person thoroughly yet skirted the rules of courtesy and taste... then I delete it. I have been doing this a lot more often lately, because I am so fucking angry at BP and the petroleum industry in general, but I refuse (as best I can) to take it out on DUers, even the longtime trolls. I have decided to really utilize the DU ignore feature. Though a few people have characterized it in a negative way, or those who use it, I think it is a really good tool to preserve the peace, and diffuse trolling. :hi:

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 04:09 PM
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3. I've been doing that for years. I woulda have gotten the boot forever and a day
ago had I published any of those thoughts here. LOL
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 04:20 PM
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4. I have stepped up my efforts to be as civil as possible as a response to Skinner's thread
Using the ignore feature will help the Mods too. :hi:
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 06:10 AM
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10. Same here.
I think if I collected all the multi-page diatribes I've deleted in one place I'd probably have a book that makes Stephen King's new one look like a short read. Most of mine were over the Gulf too. It's hard to explain to people that didn't grow up on it how it feels.
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Political_Junkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 04:32 PM
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5. Oh yeah,
I've been doing this since I came to DU this typing then deleting. I'm not really angry at my fellow DUers. I'm angry at this f@#%ed up world. I delete these angry posts, because I'm thankful that in this f@#%ed up world I have a place to go where there are others who see it the same way.
Great post, Bright! You summed it up perfectly.
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Jumping John Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 05:13 PM
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6. I try not to do that on DU. Instead I go to my Rep Congressman's Youtube page and
post there. He is just another lying Republican as far as I can see so I post and expose his lies and piss off his followers ther. And I will lie if I think I can get away with it but usually that is not necessary.

Check it out. Can you guess who I am??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DJ384RizvE
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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 06:09 PM
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7. THANK YOU
K and R, anmd to hell with anyone who hits the unrec!
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 06:33 PM
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8. Well said, beautifully written...
I suspect many will see themselves mirrored in your OP, I certainly do. I am trying to improve and have written more than one post today and then deleted them before sending whereas in the recent past I may not have taken that 'sober second look'. That is not to say unnecessary snark has not escaped the delete button but I really am working on reducing it.

Recommended.
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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 07:00 PM
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9. I've done that too....
I have lashed out at posters and then felt terrible afterwords because I expect better of myself.

When people do that to me, I don't hate them or think less of them. We are all going through our own agonies, we all feel so strongly about making a better America, a better Democratic Party and maybe a better world that we are passionate about what we believe in, and sometimes that gets the best of the "should I?" impulse. When I first joined I found personal attacks hurtful, but as time passed I came to think of them as kind of the cost of doing business sometimes. Now I think that they reflect more on the people who write them than they do on me, and I do consider the forces driving them. Sometimes I reply in kind, mostly I'm trying not to. Because my replies reflect on me, and if my anger and snark is all people see in my posts, then what have I done to put across my ideas and views?

Like you, that is what I want people to take away with them. Ideas, views, maybe something they will think about whether I know it or not. And I fervently hope for a better world for your grandson and everybody else's children. They are not inheriting much to start with in life, and that has to change. They are our future, the people who will take over and run things after all is said and done. I don't want them to have a spoiled and unlivable world run by corrupt and greedy leadership. I want them to have the best chance they can have.

So don't worry too much. Do what you have to do, and please do make the funny posts. I don't think I'm the only one here that needs all the laughs she can get right now. Excellent post and very thought provoking. K&R.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 06:40 AM
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11. Many times I write a snarky (or worse) post, preview it, then go back to the forum level.
It keeps me (reasonably) sane and allows me to blow off steam. Better yet, I'm not tugging on Superman's cape.

Good post, TygrBright. :thumbsup:

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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 12:23 AM
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12. k & r nt
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 12:57 AM
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13. Beautifully said, I wish I could K&R, but it's too late
Thank you :)
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 03:25 PM
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14. This is an important point/message to keep in mind:
I agree with EVERY SINGLE PERSON on DU about SOMETHING. Thanks Bright one.
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