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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 06:59 PM Original message |
Yes, we NEED more hand guns in this country, murder rate per 100,000 population.... |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. I have weapons but I'm not doing anything to lower the murder rate unless it's my wife |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 07:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Wow, why carry one? Are you that scared? |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 07:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I changed, I don't carry it on my person all the time. I am not going to live with having killed |
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miscsoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 07:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Hell, I'd be scared if I lived in the U.S. |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 07:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I live in Louisiana it's around 12 per 100,000. It's just part of the culture here. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
95. Apparently not as scared as you are. |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 06:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
75. It's the RB TexLA Show! |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 07:44 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. By saying there is only one person I would attempt to defend with a gun |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
6. And yet, crime is at a 30 year low |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Yes, handguns caused that. LOL. Murder is OK with you? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Handgun ownership is up, yet crime is down.. |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 08:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Yes, the internet has also expanded. Maybe that is the cause of crime going down? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 08:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. How does your brain equate the two? |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. So guns don't cause any of it? The gun culture does. And people like you defend it. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 08:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. "gun culture" causes non-gun homicide? |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. The Gun culture is an issue. You don't want to admit it. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Have anything concrete to back that up, or is it all hyperbole and piffle? n/t |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 07:06 AM Response to Reply #26 |
76. Yes |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 08:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Murder is ok with everyone ...that's why we don't give a shit about the deaths of the innocent... |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 09:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
34. The authoritarians hate facts! |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
7. People who don't know about statistics are funny |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. I guess I put up countries up there that I would not mind living in. Move to Mexico if you want. |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 08:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. What exactly is bad about living in Mexico? |
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timo (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 12:23 AM Response to Reply #25 |
61. hmmmmmm |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 09:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. I thought it was because you wanted your sample to be biased and your results meaningless n/t |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 07:09 AM Response to Reply #13 |
77. So why isn't Switzerland up there? |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. USA still outguns Mexico and Brazil for gun deaths--Oh look at that socialist guncontrolling Spain |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 09:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. You might want to double check those numbers for Mexico |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 09:26 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Gun Deaths ranked by country |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 09:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Those numbers are more than 15 years old |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 09:56 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. 1998 is not more than 15. And as you know, those numbers have not declined |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Those numbers are from 1994, but you would know that if you bothered to read it |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 10:47 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Ok, then. What are the latest numbers? |
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timo (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 12:25 AM Response to Reply #28 |
62. hinky numbers |
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MyNameGoesHere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 09:56 AM Response to Reply #7 |
85. You want to compare |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 10:19 AM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Why not the UK? They have a higher violent crime rate than the US. n/t |
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MyNameGoesHere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 10:28 AM Response to Reply #88 |
91. sorry thought the discussion was about gun violence. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 10:30 AM Response to Reply #91 |
92. The anti-gun crowd wants to talk about "fear," but are you really that afraid of falling victim |
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MyNameGoesHere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Can't ban stupidity. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
8. Are the murders by any method other than handguns included? Stabbing? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Slicing with broken pub glasses? Kitchen knives? |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
9. Maybe we need more guns or maybe we don't. We sure as hell don't need more unconstitutional laws. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
47. +1. Someone sees the larger issue. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
11. I don't need anyone else telling me what I need or don't need |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
16. ...and let's make sure we spend everything we got on the military too. |
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harry_pothead (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
19. A colleauge of mine says that an armed society is a polite society. |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 09:39 PM Response to Reply #19 |
39. Your colleague should visit Kazakhstan |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
20. "Gun Control" was started by racists scared of the Black Panthers. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 08:44 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Even before that.. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 09:59 AM Response to Reply #20 |
86. You and I rarely agree on anything ever... |
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timo (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
23. taking ccl class |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 11:06 PM Response to Reply #23 |
50. Good for you. |
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timo (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 12:18 AM Response to Reply #50 |
59. really? |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #59 |
97. Yeah! |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 07:50 AM Response to Reply #23 |
81. Add you to the list! |
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timo (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 09:43 AM Response to Reply #81 |
84. what list?? |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
27. No. If they were all murder by stabbing, would you want to ban steak knives? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
32. I love living in a country where we have the choice and the right.... |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
33. People don't NEED guns. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 09:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. People don't NEED the right to vote or religious freedom either. |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 09:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. That's not the point. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. It is the point. It's about choices and rights. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 10:25 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Deleted message |
proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. I'm not going to alert on this. |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. I lost nothing. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 12:14 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. I accept your surrender. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 09:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Thank goodness it's not the Bill of Needs then. n/t |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. That is why it is called a bill of rights not bill of needs. |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Way to come up with your own response there. |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 11:05 PM Response to Reply #33 |
49. If YOUR rights were being trampled upon |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 11:28 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. That's already happened, FYI. |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 10:31 AM Response to Reply #55 |
93. You don't seem to understand the concept of rights |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 12:56 PM Response to Reply #55 |
98. All GLBT's should carry too. |
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Kringle (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 05:21 AM Response to Reply #33 |
70. bless Iran .nt |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
44. Canada has always banned handguns |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. Canada doesn't ban handguns. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 11:58 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Name one Canadian who has a legal handgun |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 12:08 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Don't know any Canadians off the top of my head. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 01:14 AM Response to Reply #56 |
67. I knew two Canadians who used to winter in St Pete Florida ... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 12:35 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. I don't consider myself cowardly merely because I own firearms ... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 12:39 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Most of this is driven by irrational fear- hence the term cowardly |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 01:10 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. I have had firearms in my house for many years ... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 03:38 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. I sincerely hope that you're not among the statistics |
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Kringle (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 05:26 AM Response to Reply #60 |
71. tell that to the Jews .nt |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #60 |
89. Trying to talk sense into the statist gun-grabbing crowd doesn't work. |
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Dank Nugs (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
63. An armed society is a polite society. Deal with it. n/t |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 03:45 AM Response to Reply #63 |
69. I disagree and YOU are impolite. |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 05:42 AM Response to Original message |
72. Yet more raving nonsense. Check your facts and get over your hysteria. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 06:44 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. err... sorry Mark- they're right |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 06:55 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. When presented with facts to disprove the theories that guns are as safe as swiss cheese |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 07:48 AM Response to Reply #72 |
80. Lol, the murder rate is wrong? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 08:54 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Psst.. it's been going down, not up.. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 09:04 AM Response to Reply #80 |
83. A snapshot comparison of murder rates among different countries really doesn't tell you anything... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
79. Amen |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
87. *cough* |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
90. I agree with you and recc but of course it stayed at 0 |
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NHLrocks (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-29-10 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
96. we have more people |
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