Just saw "Green Zone" on PPV

Could somebody please explain? At what point, exactly, did we become the bad guys? Because we are the bad guys now.

I didn't need a movie to tell me that, but it still saddens me.

We didn't used to be this way. What happened?

Ike was right about the MIC.

and School of the Americas started training insurgents in South America...Toppling democratically elected governments there and in the Mid East so we could retain access to the oil fields...
Thing is most citizens got fed propaganda.
If American, now multi-national corps seem to go in rape err reap their resources setting up and keeping puppets propped up.

It seems to me that post war CIA did most or all of the dirty tricks work.
With Bush I in the WH the CIA got what they wanted as well as the big corps, mainly oil and has only tightened their grip on our government ever since.

We did not become the bad guys all at once, like any reputation it has to be built over time. I think we are just seeing the players plays because they are either sure or think they have final control. We may have to shake the confidence one of these days.

The Pullman Strike, the Triangle Shirtwaist fire, the battle of Little Big Horn...You really should not rely on old John Wayne movies for American history.

I do not consider those earlier things you mention that 'we' were the good guys, that was the propaganda.
Oh and I did not mention John Wayne at all I see him as propaganda too.

I personally cant stand any of his movies, except maybe the searchers. The point is in WWII we had actually gotten over some of the bad things we had done earlier, and we were helping to rid the world of the NAZI's. What could be nobler. Too bad that we became the next empire builder in the process.

a book that shows exactly why things got all screwed up. Hint: Milton Friedman.

"The Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein. Goes into detail about the philosophy used by Bremer and other GWB loyalist.

Bremer's occupation policies made winning impossible.

see if they could traumatize and disorient them into passive obedience so they would give up their resources in trade for some measure of stability.

I think it became worse when people stopped paying attention.