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cory777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 10:40 PM
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G20 Protesters Being Abducted, Bundled Into Unmarked Vans In Toronto
Edited on Mon Jun-28-10 11:37 PM by cory777
In a repeat of scenes witnessed at last year’s G20 meeting in Pittsburgh, protesters in Toronto are being abducted off the streets and bundled into unmarked vehicles which are driven away at high speeds.

Several videos show police tackling protesters to the ground, cuffing them and then handing them over to unidentified casually dressed individuals who shove the demonstrators into unmarked black vans.

Police then randomly grab further protesters as more of the unmarked vehicles arrive on the scene.

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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 10:43 PM
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1. I'm not one of those people that thinks the Black Bloc are always agent provocateurs
Edited on Mon Jun-28-10 10:45 PM by Downtown Hound
But this Toronto shit really has me wondering. They practically left the Black Bloc alone while they went on their rampage through the city. But the peaceful protesters are being rounded up left and right. Sounds like classic special ops to me. Let the provocateurs do their thing, crack down, say it was the Black Bloc that made me do it.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 11:14 PM
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8. Well, I'm going to assume that the violence
is coming from the undercover cops rather than protesters until I'm proven wrong in each individual case. And I think that everyone else should too.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 11:23 PM
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10. I've participated in Black Bloc led breakaway marches before
Trust me, they're not all cops. But agent provocateurs definitely happen.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 10:48 PM
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2. I saw things like this happen in Seattle.
We even managed to get close to a cop and ask him about it, with a grin he said it was "plain clothes just helping out."
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 10:52 PM
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3. I also observed plainclothes police provocateurs
in Seattle in 99 and at the anniversary protests in 2000. I paid close attention to their actions at both events.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 10:59 PM
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5. Oh for sure.
I would say about 50 to 75% of the violence in Seattle was perpetrated by the cops because we won the first day.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 11:14 PM
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9. I think it was a planned overreaction
designed to generate the kind of media that it generated.

It was an amazing success on many levels, I'd say the single most amazing day I've personally witnessed in years of political activism. It put the WTO and the anti-globalization movement on the map and into the collective world consciousness. It was epic.

But the orchestrated response... the provocations, the overreaction, the media distortions... effectively derailed the effort at the very same time.

You can't turn out 50,000 labor/enviro/anti-globalization marchers in Seattle after WTO. You can't anywhere in the US. And - equally important - you can't turn out any numbers for non-violent civil disobedience. The orchestrated response to the people's victory in 99 was to send the message that there will be no "non-violent" street activism. All activism will be met by violence. No one wants to be in the middle of a riot between police and vandals and everyone knows that's what mass protest means post-WTO.

So we won big - but they reacted in a way that changed the game and made that our last hurrah. At least so far.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 11:30 PM
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12. You are correct.
The first day was a win, we shut it down. I marched with Labor and Socialist and everything in between. Most amazing day of my life in many, many ways. It was all down hill for a good portion after the first day, spent a good part of it in jail, without charges.

I came home to people asking if I was one of those "crazy rioters" and then I began to see the way it had been turned.

Wish I could have been there in 2000.

Thanks, by the way, for your work.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 12:41 AM
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17. +1
Excellent summary

And this is spot on:

So we won big - but they reacted in a way that changed the game and made that our last hurrah. At least so far.

:thumbsup:


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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 11:08 PM
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6. Police will say "I'm just doing my job".
Edited on Mon Jun-28-10 11:12 PM by PM Martin
Which is what people with a lowly Palinesque IQ would say.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 10:54 PM
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4. And to think that some here say "appearances" don't matter.
Edited on Mon Jun-28-10 10:56 PM by Bonobo
Intimidation and terror.

Police state. Fascism. It's all there right in front of you.

Beating on shields to induce fear. Plain clothes police mixing with the people.

Unmarked vans and unmarked cops whisking people away for no defensible reason.

All to protect the financial elite of a few countries.

It's fascism folks. It just is.

Go find somewhere to hide and be nice to each other because we are deep in the shit now.

As "austerity" programs kick in all over, poverty, homelessness, illness, incarceration, all will rise and the powers will crack down with irresistible force to defend it.

It has come here. It has happened here.

Fuck.

I posted the below OP 4 days ago. Give it a look.

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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 11:10 PM
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7. Uh huh. Any CREDIBLE, NEWS organizations reporting this?
No? Then it's very easily just a bunch of guys faking it.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 11:25 PM
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11. Define credible............
Fox Noise? ANY corporate owned news organizations?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 11:49 PM
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15. Not anonymous internet people of no reputation. nt
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 12:17 AM
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16. Some of the video linked IS from credible news organizations
You could go have a look at it. But I think we both know you aren't gonna do that don't we?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 12:49 AM
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18. +1 hey The Real News is Gore's organization
if memory serves.

Oh and of course the Guardian. but hey... I guess that is not mainstream enough.

There are days I want to do to this round these parts

:banghead: the denial is thick...
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 11:31 PM
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14. Police tactics have been so heavy-handed. K&R . //nt
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