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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 07:00 PM
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They've made the jump. It's official: They are nuts.
Idaho GOP Approves Far-Right Platform: Repeal 17th Amendment, Buy Gold And Silver

link: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/idaho-gop-repeal-17th-amdendment-buy-gold-and-silver.php?ref=fpb

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Idaho Republicans held their convention over the past weekend, approving a platform containing some mighty interesting parts of the Tea Party platform -- from state nullification of federal laws, to protecting the institution of marriage from transgendered people, to to a Glenn-Beckesque embrace of gold and silver money.

State Rep. Marv Hagedorn (R) told the Associated Press that the push to go further right was a product of disgust with the current status quo from the Obama administration. "It does reflect a change," said Hagedorn. "But it's not a change in our party, it's a change in the White House."

The convention's platform calls for a radical overhaul of the federal government. One proposal is a Tea Party favorite, calling for the repeal the 17th Amendment, which provides for the direct election of Senators instead of the original system of them being selected by state legislatures. The platform also calls for the state legislature and governor to "nullify any and all existing and future unconstitutional Federal mandates and laws, funded or unfunded, that infringe on Idaho's Tenth Amendment sovereignty." In addition, the GOP calls for the state of Idaho to take back federally controlled lands.

Then there is the hard-money plank, which might have come right out of a Goldline ad on talk radio: "We believe Idahoans need to protect their savings from the ravages of inflation, which is hidden taxation, and encourage citizens to participate in a systematic acquisition of precious metals which represent real value as opposed to paper currencies."

more @ link

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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 07:03 PM
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1. No, they've always been this crazy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Chenoweth-Hage

"During her tenure, she was referred to by her most outspoken critics as a "poster-child for the militias," and in February 1995 she voiced the suspicion that armed federal agents were landing black helicopters on Idaho ranchers' property to enforce the Endangered Species Act, in line with a conspiracy theory popular in Conservative circles. "I have never seen them," Chenoweth said in an interview in The New York Times. "But enough people in my district have become concerned that I can't just ignore it. We do have some proof."<3> The Los Angeles Times editorialized that during the campaign she gained national attention by "holding 'endangered salmon bakes' during fundraisers, serving canned salmon to ridicule the listing of Idaho salmon as an endangered species." She was quoted as saying in response, "It's the white, Anglo-Saxon male that's endangered today."<4>"

This woman never lost a race in Idaho.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 07:13 PM
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8. You have a point. It's hard to argue that Helen Chenowith was so electable in Idaho.
But that was just fifteen years ago.

Idaho produced some excellent politicians in the 1970's like Frank Church and Cecil Andrus.

What changed? I sure know that in my travels in Idaho over the last few years there is nothing on radio, TV or newspapers resembling anything Democratic.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 12:20 AM
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15. What changed?
Edited on Wed Jun-30-10 12:39 AM by Art_from_Ark
1980/81? Frank Church was defeated, and Ronald Reagan and his cadre of "Sagebrush Rebels", including James Watt, got into power.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 07:03 PM
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2. Wow, they are really got Manhood Regressive Syndrome
living in fear of their own fecklessness.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 07:03 PM
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3. Will these fools eventually push this country into civil war? n/t
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 07:08 PM
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7. that is the question -- and in part, it depends on how timid the rest of us remain...
politically, etc...
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 07:21 PM
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10. In the 60's we had civil rights and the Vietnam war. I had thought eventually
Edited on Tue Jun-29-10 07:22 PM by RKP5637
the wars would have pushed people into more action, but then there is no draft, someone else is doing it... Then, I had thought the economy/unemployment would have been an energizing catalyst, but seeming not, at least not yet.

I had also thought Obama would have been a rally point, but his demeanor has changed so much IMO from his election speeches that were so inspiring and riveting. Hopefully we're in the eye of the storm and things will start happening as the midterms get nearer.

I also wish more in Congress were more outspoken like Alan Grayson. I wish the democrats would start kicking butt.

I guess I have a lot of wishes.


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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 07:04 PM
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4. When the GOP also addresses government that is not elected social government
then they may have something worth reading. So much attention is put on social elected government that people do not think what government is.

The use of some factor to rule people and set social policy, taxes, and laws. It could be money, or military, or even personality, they only talk about the government form that is an elected government.

Why don't they address the other forms of governance?
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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 07:04 PM
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5. They are far gone ...
Next thing you know they will be out digging up the gold and silver with their teeth in every urban roadway. Where do they think all of the gold and silver it would take to make their "hard money" platform possible is going to come from?:think: They are pinheads.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 07:05 PM
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6. Federal law trumps state law
It would be unconstitutional for state law to nullify federal law.
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 07:15 PM
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9. They should continue and succeed with this!
Why? Let's see how this kind of surreal, GOP invention functions and how the rest of the fish in the tank deal with it.

I think that bringing the Tea Party platform into a practical situation would be a better way to illustrate its pitfalls and some of the absurdity and lack of thought or insight behind it. Rather than just rhetoric and theory, we would get something tangible to react to and observe. Reactionary knee-jerks, (especially with all the options available) do not a good policy make.

Yeah, I am that confident that they will dig a big hole with what they think is a realistic reaction to the current state of things. However, I am pretty sure that even potatoes won't grow in that kind of regressive pit.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 08:58 PM
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12. Those Baggers are chronic cynics...cry babies, critics.....
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 10:39 PM
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13. What you said.
I'm tired of these whiners.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 11:37 PM
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14. School yard Bullies all grown up to be the SORE LOSERS of the Political Kind
They Suck at Losing
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 07:46 PM
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11. Well they aren't in charge any more that's the change
they don't like. I mean when you can start wars, torture people, rack up the money no wonder they don't like the change the Democrats are putting in place. Democrats wanted to stop all that.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 12:22 AM
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16. Cut off their federal funding and see how they like it.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 12:25 AM
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17. When did I read about that 10th amendment
States's Rights in an official party platform?

Yes, it's happened before kiddies... in the 1850s

Do I need to fill all the blanks or are people starting to realize Santayana's old famous dictum... those who forget history are condemned to repeat it.

And no, they are not nuts they believe this... and it is partly about race too. There, I said it.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 01:10 AM
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18. K & R
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CabalPowered Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 05:58 PM
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19. Norm posted an editorial on FB today regarding the media attention
Jonathan Parker
Jonathan Parker July 1, 2010 at 2:57pm
Subject: Opinion Piece by Chairman Norm Semanko
Republican State Convention: Toppling Obama's Ivory Tower

It has been interesting reading the liberal media's one-sided editorials regarding the Republican State Convention. As the one who personally presided over the Convention, I would like to share some of the positive and inspiring things that occurred.

More than 500 delegates, elected by their peers from across the state, packed the Convention hall in Idaho Falls to welcome their candidates and share in a common goal. In attendance were long-time party regulars, relative newcomers, and people that I have never seen before. They were motivated and excited to be there, sacrificing their time and money to attend. Committee members exhaustively examined and debated proposed rules, resolutions and platform planks. As the party of ideas, we are not afraid of having these discussions, and we hold our Convention deliberations under the full scrutiny of the media. Contrast that with the Democrats who just a few weeks ago banned the press from attending their platform discussions. As the party that is saddled with the crippling agenda of Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid, it is understandable why they wouldn't want Idahoans to hear their discussions. Staying faithful to their liberal allies in Washington, D.C., Democrat state legislators have openly spoken in favor of tax increases during the current recession and have also voted against the Health Freedom Act, thereby aligning themselves with the eventual federal takeover of our health care system. The Democrat candidates for Governor and Congress also oppose Idaho's efforts to fight this costly federal mandate.

Like Idahoans from all walks of life, the delegates that attended the Republican State Convention are concerned, scared -- and even angry -- at what Obama, Pelosi and Reid have done to our great nation. Under the Democrats, the radical ivory tower experiments of the liberal establishment have been taken out of the classroom and unleashed on everyday Americans. People have had enough. Enough of big government, out-of-control spending, bailouts, government takeovers, health care mandates and back-door deals. Americans -- Republicans, Democrats and independents alike -- are frustrated and they want to be heard by their elected leaders. As the party of ideas, only the Republican Party has been listening. At our State Convention, we embraced these ideals and united behind our candidates statewide. We welcome all Idahoans to join in the effort to topple the liberal ivory tower by rejecting the agenda of Obama, Pelosi and Reid and leading our nation back to its promise of the American Dream of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Norm Semanko, Chairman
Idaho Republican Party


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