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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 07:03 PM
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Pentagon clearly in touch with the common mans worries
"Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Monday he wants to trim some of the billions of dollars the Pentagon spends on weapons systems and contractor services, part of a Pentagon-wide effort to find $100 billion in savings in the next five years." This will come from "unnecessary spending by defense contractors that provide the military with everything from fighter jets to janitors." The article notes "Gates' acquisition chief" Ashton Carter, who met with executives on Monday, "said that the profits of defense firms will not suffer, since the Pentagon was encouraging them to cut costs by being more productive. That could include using fewer workers on a project or cutting their material costs, he said."

So profits won't suffer. Wow you know I was worried government contractors won't make the same profits during hard economic times they did in good ones. Well at least the pentagon narrowed the suffering to the workers who will lose their job or work longer unpaid hours to make up for the missing workers. Oh and the troops who get to enjoy dieing due to inferior material usage in cost cutting measures. But once again profits won't suffer. I'll sleep better tonight.
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GAspnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 07:09 PM
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1. Profits aren't patriotic
After all, if the defense contractors *really* loved America, they'd work for cost, virtue being its own reward and such.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 09:43 AM
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8. I've wondered about that for over 50 years...
I first heard the term "war profiteer" when I was a kid, and couldn't imagine how that was possible. If it was a war, and our country was involved, and people were being drafted, and we were all supposed to sacrifice.....why would the people who make the tools for that war expect to make a profit.

Now I'm more enlightened.... I now say that "cost plus 2%" would be fair. That way, the company could still expand into other products.

Damn... am I naive or what?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 07:10 PM
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2. I'm glad to see such clear thinking and proper appreciation
for what really matters in these affairs.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 07:12 PM
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3. the only to way to actually have savings is to cut profits. is gates retarded or just acting it? nt
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jp11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 07:22 PM
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4. Maybe it is my warped ming but that sounds like
insanity, we'll keep overpaying for crap, letting them take longer than they were given, charge us more than they were supposed to and of course keep feeding them billions for new crap we don't need. All the while increasing 'productivity', sounds familiar for some reason, do more with less and so on.

Guess we have to protect defense contractors because they are driving our economy, not like we could take the money we give them and put it towards getting something worthwhile for our money like infrastructure, rebuilding our country or having the money count for tangible gains over just putting it in the pockets of the rich.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 07:31 PM
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5. Could you post a link??
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 09:27 AM
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6. not to that quote
it's from a subscribed service, but here's a related article.

http://www.federaltimes.com/article/20100629/ACQUISITION03/6290304/1055/AGENCY

Carter said several times during the press conference that the intention of Pentagon brass is not to cut into companies' profits. Rather, they intend to use cutting costs — which should swell firms' profits — as a way to incentivize companies to eliminate unneeded overhead
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 09:37 AM
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7. Thank You
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