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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:24 PM
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BREAKING: Section 3 of DOMA found unconstitutional, violates equal protection
Although I am sure that the Obama administration with appeal this, tout suite...


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Historic day for LGBT equality. Finally. We needed a win for a change.

A Federal District Court Judge in Massachusetts ruled in two DOMA cases today. In Gill v. OPM, brought by GLAD, the judge ruled:

In the wake of DOMA, it is only sexual orientation that differentiates a married couple entitled to federal marriage-based benefits from one not so entitled. And this court can conceive of no way in which such a difference might be relevant to the provision of the benefits at issue. By premising eligibility for these benefits on marital status in the first instance, the federal government signals to this court that the relevant distinction to be drawn is between married individuals and unmarried individuals. To further divide the class of married individuals into those with spouses of the same sex and those with spouses of the opposite sex is to create a distinction without meaning. And where, as here, “there is no reason to believe that the disadvantaged class is different, in relevant respects” from a similarly situated class, this court may conclude that it is only irrational prejudice that motivates the challenged classification. As irrational prejudice plainly never constitutes a legitimate government interest, this court must hold that Section 3 of DOMA as applied to Plaintiffs violates the equal protection principles embodied in the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

In a case brought by the Attorney General of Massachusetts, the Judge found that Section 3 of DOMA violated the Tenth Amendment...

http://www.americablog.com/2010/07/breaking-section-3-of-doma-found.html
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:25 PM
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1. Finally some good news... n/t
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 06:04 PM
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37. +1
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:26 PM
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2. Well well look at that. Equal Protection the right wingers favorite amendment when it
Edited on Thu Jul-08-10 04:27 PM by Guy Whitey Corngood
comes to stealing elections and corporate personhood.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:28 PM
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3. Loving v. Virginia
How is this any different? I do believe this will go to the SC. Loving will be precedent.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:29 PM
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5. Court isn't ready yet. It will be another 5-4 dick in the eye.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:31 PM
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9. You're absolutely right.
I wonder how long it will take to float up to the Supremes?
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:39 PM
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15. At this point what if they granted Writ and then had it go down in flames?
How many years would it take to get a reversal?
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 05:22 PM
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27. When will the court be ready?
Edited on Thu Jul-08-10 05:28 PM by FreeState
I hear this all the time - but the reality is there has never been a better time than now - and unless Obama wins two in a row followed by another Dem who is pro marriage equality the court will not be ready for another 20+ years.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 05:34 PM
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32. When every 5-4 decision that we have seen lately....
Stops happening.


We need one more appointment to replace someone from the other side.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 05:56 PM
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33. So 20, 30, 40 years? n/t
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 05:57 PM
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34. Whenever 1 of the conservative bloc members decides to retire
nt
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 06:02 PM
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36. 10 + years then - they wont retire with a Dem in office
John G. Roberts (Chief Justice)
January 27, 1955
(age 55)
George W. Bush

Antonin Scalia
March 11, 1936
(age 74)
Ronald Reagan

Anthony Kennedy
July 23, 1936
(age 73)
Ronald Reagan

Clarence Thomas
June 23, 1948
(age 62)
George H. W. Bush

Ruth Bader Ginsburg
March 15, 1933
(age 77)
Bill Clinton

Stephen Breyer
August 15, 1938
(age 71)
Bill Clinton

Samuel Alito
April 1, 1950
(age 60)
George W. Bush

Sonia Sotomayor
June 25, 1954
(age 56)
Barack Obama
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 06:07 PM
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38. Which will be when a republican is president
Seriously, no conservative judge will retire when Obama is president. They'd rather serve till they're dead from old age or disease then give a democrat the power to replace them.

The only one of those 5 who I could see maybe retiring under Obama is Justice Kennedy, but only if Republicans controlled the senate, in order to make sure that a more moderate justice replaced him instead of a total radical.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 05:27 PM
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29. I can't wait for the Court to support the DOJ's appeal.
:mad:
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:29 PM
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4. Great news!!! How long before President Fierce Advocate appeals?
Edited on Thu Jul-08-10 05:10 PM by laconicsax
Will he call his good buddy Rev. Warren for moral guidance?

Edit: Silly me, I added text after putting n/t in the subject line.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:30 PM
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8. "Marriage is between a man and a woman." - President Fierce.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:29 PM
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6. Wow!! Awesome!!
Edited on Thu Jul-08-10 04:32 PM by Politicub
Now we need a win in Calif.!

PS - It will be a travesty if the Justice Dept. files an appeal.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:30 PM
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7. k/r
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:32 PM
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10. Good news - and a Republican appointed judge, too
The judge in the case was Joseph Tauro, I believe he was appointed by Nixon.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:32 PM
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11. k/r
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:33 PM
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12. That's great news.
Though I have to wonder why it took 14 years to get to this point.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:39 PM
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16. Martha Coakley is the first Mass AG to pursue it :)
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:35 PM
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13. Right on the heels of Obama extending the family and medical leave act to gay couples.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 05:24 PM
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28. Thats not for gay couples - only children of a partner
the couples are still left out. It does offer insurance for couples but thats not part of the Medical Leave Act.
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:38 PM
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14. Great news - and applicable to my state today.
I'll be spreading it around.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:46 PM
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17. Has the DOJ said they will not appeal?
Love the ruling, but will the administration file an appeal?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:58 PM
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19. They are most likely writing it up now
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 05:03 PM
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21. that was my first thought when I heard about this.
I guess i am a glass half empty kinda guy. :hi:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 05:06 PM
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22. Doubtful.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 05:07 PM
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23. You must have a very optimistic view of this administration re: gay rights.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 05:14 PM
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24. Not really. I just think that your scenario is unlikely.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 05:15 PM
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25. OK then
I didn't mean literally just this second, it was more in the "this will probably be next" vein. Squirrel.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 05:22 PM
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26. I sort of doubt the administration or the DOJ will even mention the ruling.
To be clear, the record on GLBT issues has "not met expectations", but I don't think the administration will do anything at all regarding this latest ruling. It doesn't make any political sense to even comment on it unless asked.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 05:27 PM
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30. GLAD's Mary Bonauto: "I fully expect the government will appeal."
GLAD - who is involved in the case fully believes they will appeal.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 05:29 PM
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31. The administration is fighting DADT in the courts.
Because it's "the law of the land" and they are being "forced" to defend it. I imagine DOMA will be the same story.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 07:02 AM
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50. You haven't been paying attention, then.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:46 PM
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18. Mea culpa, one case violates 5th and the other violates 10th. Violation of the 10th is a rarity.
Edited on Thu Jul-08-10 04:53 PM by jody
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:59 PM
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20. k&r
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 05:58 PM
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35. even with good news, you had to throw a bitter cheap shot in your first sentence.
:rofl:
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 10:35 PM
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44. Yep... had to attack Obama... it's the M.O. for this one n/t
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 11:02 PM
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46. I notice you don't dispute the "bitter cheap shot"...
Would you care to lay odds on it? I'm willing to lay down some cash...
if you have more than ROFLs to offer to cover when you lose...

:evilgrin:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 06:45 AM
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49. It was neither bitter nor cheap
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 07:02 AM
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51. LOL is that what ignored said?
I'll cop to bitter if he cops to being cheap lol!

Actually, it's like shooting fish in a barrel to surmise whether or not the administration will appeal it. I'm just wondering if the appeal will say they are appealing it because it a) is the Law Of The Land, or; (B) will they argue that we are disgusting pervert child molesters again?
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 06:21 PM
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39. .
:toast:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 06:50 PM
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40. Thank you!
:toast: this round on me :)
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 06:53 PM
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41. I don't know what the future will bring re: appeal.
Well, actually I do. Realism is sinking in.

But still...damn, after that loathsome veto last night from that loathsome governor in Hawaii, this is so nice. :-)
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 07:00 PM
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42. Lingle is a disgusting human being.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 10:28 PM
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43. K&R n/t
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 10:45 PM
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45. It is a win.
The DOJ will probably appeal, but the argument keeps getting weaker and weaker. Something has to give.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 06:40 AM
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48. Definitely.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 11:04 PM
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47. Finally
Edited on Thu Jul-08-10 11:04 PM by BeFree
The system works too damn slow.

Equal rights for everyone!!
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 08:22 AM
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52. Hurrah! N.T.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 09:51 AM
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53. Glad to see the many postings of this news!! We need Obama to stand down on this ....
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 03:00 PM
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54. K&R
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