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happy_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 10:53 AM
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Who cares WHY the right is now against the war- Now is our chance to end this war of Terror!
Edited on Fri Jul-09-10 10:54 AM by happy_liberal
Please people, let's not spend our time talking about what an idiot Ann Coulter is, we all know this...

let's just go with it!!!!!

Over one million Iraqis killed(and those numbers were from 5+ years ago)

Afghanis waiting in terror to see if their wedding will be bombed...

How much wasted money while the homeless go on hurting...


THE RIGHT HAS TURNED AGAINST THE WAR- NOW IS OUR TIME TO END IT!!!

There is hope- finally!


Then there is the Patriot Act, on top of the illegal spying(which the Congress attempted to make legal retroactively, which cannot be done without an ammendment to the Constitution), the entire Homeland Security dept NEEDS TO GO. Bush set that up and we can get rid of it.

What we need to do is tell the righties Obama is spying on you, Obama's violating the Constitution....

WHO CARES IF THEY ARE HYPOCRITES? We all know they are.

What is more important? Continuing the 'divide and conquer' or turning back everything Bush did in office?

Let's get on the same page and start moving the 'right' in the right direction.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 10:56 AM
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1. Lets not pretend we are leaving for the good of the Afghan people
we want to leave and we don't give a damn what happens next to the Afghans - lets just be honest about that at least....
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:35 AM
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16. I don't think thats completely fair at all
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 10:56 AM
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2. Why are they against it? They fucking started it!!!!
"Hypocrite" doesn't even begin to describe these idiots. :argh:
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:03 AM
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3. The Conservative Wing of Republican, zipped their lips and
supported the policies of Bush. The NeoCons promoted
the Interventionist, Internationalists policies. Now the
Conservatives believe it is their turn. Classical Conservatives
believe in constraint and avoiding getting mixed up in foreign
entanglements. The War is on between NeoCons and Conservatives
for the Soul of the Republican Party.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:34 AM
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14. There is a war in the 'puke party over immigration, too
Big business versus the racists.
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happy_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 01:25 PM
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29. here's where I like a little divide and conquer
Unfortunately both big business and racists still win because they are going after the little guy, treating all brown people like suspects and common criminals, and big business, the ones who enable illegal immigrants to make a living because they want cheap labor, are going unpunished.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:32 AM
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11. Its a political opportunity
Just as it was a political opportunity for Democrats to attack the Iraq war and support the Afghan war in the 2006-2008 elections.
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happy_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 01:22 PM
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28. It is a political opportunity for real anti-war activists
(apparently not for the anti-bush people who now like war and constitutional violations)
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:04 AM
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4. maybe try reverse psychology.. support obamas escalation.
and he will then go with the right.. and finally we score one accomplishment. i like it
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:08 AM
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5. We Dems need to get behind a candidate for Commander in Chief who will promise to end the war. n/t
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:12 AM
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6. Why not just rewrite history completely
and forget the Bush era ever happened.

That seems to be the new RW tactic.
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happy_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:23 AM
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7. and some on the(or pretending to be) 'left' are helping
Edited on Fri Jul-09-10 11:24 AM by happy_liberal
Who unrecced this seriously? They think we should support the wars now because the right is turning against them?
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:26 AM
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8. I don't know what Coulter said
but I'm sure she'll say the opposite next week (or whenever suits her).

Michael Steele reversed his position within hours - it doesn't make sense to ally yourself with RWers.
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happy_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:29 AM
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10. I'm not!
They are just playing games, but the sheeple are listening. Now is the time to turn the sheeple against the war.

I don't care who are why someone is against the war, I want the mindless killing to end.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:39 AM
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18. Fair enough.
I see your reasoning, it could help change the political consensus.

As long as it doesn't exonerate the Repubs, they need to own their mistakes too
(otherwise they'll just rewrite history and do the same thing all over again in a few years).
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happy_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:45 AM
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21. hehe- you have more hope than I do
"they need to own their mistakes too
(otherwise they'll just rewrite history and do the same thing all over again in a few years)"

I'm pretty sure they will never own their mistakes(I'm not THAT hopeful) and will definitely rewrite history and try to do the same thing all over again.

I just want to stop the killing. At this point I will be happy if they just stop the killing.





"Thou Shall Not Kill" Sound familiar you right wing fundie nut jobs??
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:26 AM
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9. Yes.
I'll point out the blind-partisan hypocrisy of people like Coulter opposing the war. But, after its mentioned I don't dwell on it. Let them oppose it and help us get out.
In the same way, I don't dwell on whether this is now "Obama's war." Yes it is, but does playing the blame game get us out any faster? I don't think so.
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happy_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:32 AM
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13. blind-partisan hypocrisy is now happening on the left
I had hope before I posted this. I thought everyone would see it.

Now I am depressed....again....pass the blue pill...
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:32 AM
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12. never thought I would agree with steele but he is right
the afghan war needs to be drawn down quickly. Its going to turn into another vietnam if we keep sending troops over there.

After the Democratic party takes a bath in the elections this year, hopefully Obama and the Dems will turn to the left for once and not be so scared of being called a damn liberal.
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happy_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 01:28 PM
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30. yes he is right
"Its going to turn into another vietnam" or the US is going to turn into another Russia... whichever comes first, or both!
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:34 AM
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15. Where are you getting that the right is now against the war? n/t
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happy_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:50 AM
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24. ann coulter and other righties are speaking against the war on TV
'it's Obama's war' etc.

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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 06:29 PM
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34. If the hosts had asked them if they were still in favor of bombing brown people,
what do you think Anthrax Annie's answer would have been?

Let's be realistic. They're not anti-war. They're anti-Obama.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:36 AM
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17. It isn't going to work that way
the Democratic party is going to start defending the war. They have been forced into it. This fucking thing should have been ended on day 1 of the new admin. Now they fucked themselves and countless dead soldiers as well.
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happy_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:47 AM
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22. WE are the democratic party
We do not need to defend the war.

WE have not been forced into it.

We can rise above 'divide and conquer'.

WE are not stupid sheeple.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:42 AM
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19. call their bullshit bluff. end the wars now and watch their heads explode.
they are only against it for political reasons
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happy_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:49 AM
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23. yes, THAT is what I am talking about!
Their sheeple will be very confused.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:43 AM
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20. they aren't for or against anything besides Obama
If Obama were to try to end the wars, they'd be for them. So it isn't really much of a chance. As soon as Dems try to turn talk into votes on the rethug side they'd all disappear into the Congressional molding. They say they're for a lot of things, but come vote time they haven't shown up yet.
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happy_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:56 AM
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26. I wasn't really talking about voting
However, if Obama was pressured into making the statement that he will pull the troops ASAP and makes moves toward doing so...WE WILL WIN IN A LANDSLIDE that even diebold can't fix.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 11:55 AM
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25. K&R but don't count on any consistency from the pukes, they just don't have room
on the right to oppose so a few of them are pulling from the other side to then create space on the right to maneuver again.

This is why doing the right thing and living with the consequences is the only way to deal with these dumpsterfucks.

The Reich wing peace movement is just a taste of triangulation to get out of an odd corner, at least mostly.
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happy_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 01:57 PM
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32. thanks
:hi:
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happy_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 12:20 PM
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27. Thanks for the kicks and recs
:hi:
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happy_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 01:32 PM
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31. "Did the Liberals not warn us that the Neocons would keep us in endless war?
"They further predict the GOP after the midterms will change
and the Classic Conservatives will hold sway in Republican
Party. The Republican Party will be the Anti-War Party.
They will be the Party of RESTRAINT. Restraint in War Polich
Restraint in Fiscal Policy and Restraint in vitriolic speech."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8715290
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happy_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 06:03 PM
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33. Are we going to let the Republicans claim the anti-war movement?
Anyone?
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