Let his little boy die, hid him in cement in a trash can, organized parties on facebook just after.

These people lived in the neighborhood right behind me. It's a sick story.

They reported the boy missing a month after he had died for lack of medical attention, purposely withheld. After his dad refused to get the boy medical attention, and ordered his girlfriend to do the same, the boy died. About a month later they put the boy's body in a trash can, filled it with cement, and hid it behind an abandoned mobile home out in the country. Meanwhile, just a day or two after the boy died, his dad was promoting nightclub parties on facebook. I can't post the whole story here, but it's shocking to read.

My one question here is: what makes people do something like this???


http://media.thesunnews.com/smedia/2010/07/09/22/missing%20child10_07-09-2010_GQF1GC6EQ.1+Missing%20Toddler.standalone.prod_affiliate.78.jpg

In the days after he allegedly let his son die, Roger "Tony" Williams promoted late-night parties at local nightclubs featuring scantily clad women and cash giveaways, his Facebook page shows.

Williams, 29, is accused of refusing to get medical care for his 2-year-old son after the boy's health failed on June 7 in Summerville. When Rodricus Williams died, investigators said, Williams and girlfriend Grace Trotman dumped him behind an abandoned house in Bowman in a garbage can filled with 400 pounds of cement.

Homicide victim Rodricus Williams celebrates his second birthday party at Chuck E. Cheese in November 2009.

Authorities said the pair then concocted a story about the toddler falling into Charleston Harbor on Tuesday while walking along The Battery sea wall. That led to an exhaustive, 12-hour search by police, fire and Coast Guard personnel that cost nearly $58,000 to conduct, according to city officials.

Charleston police released a tape Friday of the 911 call Trotman placed that night. In a calm voice, she is heard telling a police dispatcher that the boy simply disappeared when she was walking with her children.





http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2010/jul/10/where-is-the-grief/

have loved that beautiful boy.

:cry:

They won't last a month.

I don't know. What's your answer?

Drugs maybe? Selfish beyond understanding? I don't know.

border psychopath with no conscience/feelings. They basically do not feel guilt and remorse in the same manner other people do... I'm not saying this is the case here, just explaining how this sometimes comes about...

The point the author makes (and it was 1:10 or 1:20, I can't remember) is that most sociopaths aren't Ted Bundy. They do stuff like this, treat their employees badly, demean their family, harass store clerks, etc.

And to people who are "normal" this don't or will ever make sense.

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That's mighty authoritarian and illiberal of you. Some people should not have kids, nobody should be forcibly sterilized because you think they'll make bad parents.

Notably, Newt Gingrich agrees with you on this topic and that's company I wouldn't aspire to right there.

I think this is really sad.

Do you believe these people should be allowed to have more children? That's what you're saying - that two people who allowed their child to die without conscience or remorse should be allowed to keep their ability to reproduce.

Why?

Because everyone has a right to breed?

Frankly, I think I prefer Newt's company to yours on this topic.

By the way your preference for forced sterilization doesn't really fit your name, "enlightenment".

Enlightenment, I'd say . . .

As to who decides? The same courts that decide any sentence. A jury of their peers, etc, etc.

you either didn't read the post you're defending or you didn't comprehend it.

He's not arguing for sterilization of them now in light of their crime, he's arguing that we should sterilize people he thinks will make bad parents so they can't have a kid in the first place to potentially kill and stick in a concrete drum.

Preemptive involuntary sterilization and/or castration. Are you really sure that's a position you want to defend? What's next? Are you going to defend Bill Bennett's statement "You could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down." as a legitimate POV too?

Seriously, in cases like this, I'm for making sterilization a choice for the perp---a condition of parole.

Otherwise, they can stay where they are until they are incapable of repeating their mistake.

he said (and I am quoting the entire post here):



His meaning and intent was as clear as rainwater and it's not what you're implying it was. It speaks for itself and it's reprehensible.

A generalized statement addressing a wide variety of people that just happens to be in response to a particular situation involving specific individuals.

You're stretching that one until it screams.
:eyes:

I'm taking him at face-value. His words which we can presume he meant since he posted them to the internet and probably stopped for at-least a half-second to consider whether he meant.

You, on the other hand, are spinning so fast I might be able to power most of Washington DC by hooking a turbine to you.

And given some other responses, it seemed others did, too.

is clearly advocating for forced sterilization based on who some person deems would be a terrible parent. There's no mention of this particular couple whatsoever. It's a blanket call for forced sterilization. And it's disgusting.

and strongly encourage the authorities to start with my fathers family,

There are some heads I just don't want to even try to get into.

:grr:

Perhaps being treated like one?

Regardless of what made them monsters, the cycle has to stop.

--d!

we breed 'em and that's what these "people" are. Psychopaths.

I can't answer your question. I will never understand how anyone could hurt a child, they are innocent.
Do you know what was medically wrong with the little boy?
Gawd this just breaks my heart.

There is no reason for them be on this planet.

and you want to impose the dp? Wow. what a blood thirsty reaction.

and yeah, I dislike blood thirstiness. It's ugly.

So is murdering children.

to medical professionals and while the parents were prosecuted the death penalty never went on the table. Why is THIS case worthy of the death penalty when those others weren't?

Yep, it is.

I think people who do this to children deserve to die.

Go ahead, you can declare yourself the better person. I don't have any problem not wearing that badge in this instance.

suffer for a lifetime in the prison hierarchy.

Couldn't happen to more deserving people.

want to sacrifice my rationality and believe there is a medieval-type Hell, complete with avenging, tormenting demons and eternal hellfire.

Part of it is i think that we have listened to ads for so many years that if something is broken, just go out and get a new one, don't fix the broken one.

Another part of the problem is that from the top down in this country we are reminded every day that human life is just another resource, to be used up and then tossed aside.

What these people did was wrong and you will always have people like this, but the society we live in today has just made this type of behavior has become more the norm than before. We need to start changing the way government, some religious organizations, media, corporations, view people. A lot have lost sight of the uniqueness of humanity.

anyone's lives to be of any value, hence to remorse. nt

These types of tragedies are going to continue whenever people turn a blind eye to the suffering of others.

Someone must have had a chance to call in the authorities to help this poor child, but did not.

Getting involved can save lives.