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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 08:08 PM
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Obama, Congress - one simple cut and you will free up TONS of funds for other purposes
Edited on Sat Jul-17-10 08:09 PM by Hawkeye-X
Psst.. that's the fucking


DEFENSE BUDGET

Cut it by 90% and you'll be shocked how quickly you can cut the deficit. Pull out all troops from Iraq and Afghanistan (declare it a loss) and leave the country up to its head of state. The perpetual war of aggression has to end right now.

Go, huh? both of you numbnuts. Take a nice fat look at this pie chart.



And it's past time to cut the fat off the rich. Big time. And redistribute it.

Hawkeye-X
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 08:13 PM
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1. $436 Million a Day to support War in Afghanistan....
I do not have a Doctorate in Mathematics or Economics... but $436 Million Dollars a day while American's go hungry...?

Being the extremely intelligent and omniscient person that I am.. I would have to say that we look at better ways to spend $436 Million?

Call me crazy.. I'm just sayin'.....
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 08:31 PM
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3. "Guns or butter?"
Pass the butter, and I'll take another slice of bread, thanks.

The military can have their trillion dollar budget back once we have all our depts paid off and we're running a surplus.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 08:10 PM
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30. How fucked up is that?
Isn't it proof that our so called "leaders" don't really give a shit about us and have an alternate agenda in mind? I'd say follow the money, but that's the great/horrible thing about war - it's so easy to make a profit off of it cause of the turmoil and corruption everywhere that it's impossible to follow. How many trillion just plain went missing in Iraq - and we continue to fund this murderous insanity, every day.

END THE WARS NOW! :mad:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 08:18 PM
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2. Yes. WAAAAAAAAAAAAY overdue.
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 08:47 PM
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4.  Yes, take the military back to where it was in 1939. n/t
:sarcasm:
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 10:11 PM
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13. And by 1945 the US military had totally defeated the Wehrmacht, the Luftwaffe, the Kriegsmarine
The Waffen SS, the Imperial Japanese Navy, the Imperial Japanese Army, and the Imperial Japanese Air Force as well as random Italian and other Axis forces.

Now our bloated military can't subdue some tenth century goatherds living in caves and mud huts.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:25 PM
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26. bingo!
:thumbsup:
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 10:20 PM
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14. Take the military back to where it was in 1939?
Are you serious?

Do you know how long it took us to defeat two countries with the two most advanced armed forces of the times?

Do You!!!

Why it took us half the time it is taking us to defeat Afghanistan which has no army, navy, or air force!

And you want to go back to that! Shame on you!
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 07:27 AM
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21. And, for way less money.
Back then, the military did everything itself, including transporting troops and equipment, cooking, engineering, security, running the PX... Now, we're paying contractors, like Halliburton and Blackwater to do that--for five or six times what it would cost had the military done those things themselves. Cut off the private contractors, and we would save BILLIONS PER YEAR.
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agent46 Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 08:47 PM
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5. Is this?
Is this a picture of America's soul?

I don't know about anyone else but I'm weary of having my willingness to go along stretched to the point of absurdity.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 08:49 PM
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6. WAR budget. nt
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gblady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 09:05 PM
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7. thanks, hawkeye-x.......
for this.....

it is so outrageous...makes my blood boil!
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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 09:08 PM
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8. The military-industrial cancer has metastisized,
Patient is losing weight. Prognosis poor.
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 09:23 PM
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9. beyond REASON
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 09:24 PM
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10. hell, cut it by 10% and create a serious jobs program.
Watch the deficit disappear.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 09:39 PM
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11. That's a fine idea....BUT!
It's time to point out that the military budget goes where corporations go, and that it is used to prop up the American Way of Life. If it weren't for the resources stolen from other countries, how could 5% of the world's population use 28% of the world's resources without any hitch in the US?
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 10:03 PM
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12. Congress and Obama must first revise the NIE so the threat to our nation is less than stated. DOD
plans for forces to counter that threat.

Either the NIE threat is valid as currently approved and therefore DOD requirements are valid OR the NIE threat is overstated and DOD forces are excessive.

A president is 100% responsible for preparing the NIE that in turn is approved by select committees of the Senate and House.

Those who blissfully pronounce "Cut the defense budget" should understand the keystone nature of the NIE.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 10:24 PM
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15. Let's declare victory and bring em home
n/t
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:14 AM
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16. Live by the sword, Die by the sword
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 07:38 PM
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29. Live by the park, be buried in the park
It's not a bad idea.
That way it would be "a walk in the park" as to where your ashes would be spread.

I want my ashes to do some good after I shuffle off of this mortal coil.
Or dance a jig off of the edge of the map, whichever comes first.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:35 AM
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17. K&R n/t!
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:49 AM
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18. I posted this very chart earlier today
but the thread got locked. It's glaringly obvious where the cuts need to come from-but our politicians are so committed to pork barrel military projects that the obvious never gets a mention.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 07:28 AM
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22. It's not just their pet pork barrel projects...
It's their big-donor private contractors (e.g. Halliburton, Blackwater, KBR) to which they are so beholden.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 01:02 AM
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19. We can save 28% of military budget by combining the services as other nations have done ...!!
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 07:12 AM
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20. Oh but that would destroy
tradition and morale. :sarcasm:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 11:17 AM
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25. Evidently, the EGO/status involved in separate branches is the reason . . .
you're right!

And each branch has it's own stuff --

and its own intelligence group . . . etal -- !!
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 04:08 AM
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32. Yeah, nothing like redundancies to drive up the cost.
Assholes.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 08:03 AM
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23. The apologists will tell you we can't do that.
The apologists would be wrong.

We CAN do that. A lot of powerful people won't like it. But we CAN do it.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 08:28 AM
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24. Close ALL the military sites (more than 700 in 30+ countries), bring home
ALL the troops and their families (the ones who are on accompanied tours), sell off the equipment that might be too large (and not too dangerous to leave behind) to ship home.

Saves a butt load of money now being spent on lease payments and upkeep for those sites. By placing all those troops and families in US bases that were downsized provides a simulus for those local economies.

Reduce the overall size of the military via normal attrition and reduced recruiting efforts, until a force sufficient for the actual defense portion of the Department of Defense is reached, and then maintain that.

Stop being policemen to the world.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 07:23 PM
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27. K&R
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 07:34 PM
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28. We could have paid for national healthcare insurance for everyone for the last 5 years
By slashing the DOD's budget in half for just ONE Year!!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 08:12 PM
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31. it's beyond absurd...how many times do we have to be able to annihilate ourselves?
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