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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 03:13 PM
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Get Ready for Fake Scandals and Gov Shutdown If GOP Grabs Control of Congress
Posted by stevebenen at 9:42 am
July 18, 2010

Get Ready for Fake Scandals and Gov Shutdown If GOP Grabs Control of Congress
Posted by stevebenen on @ 9:42 am


This post first appeared on Washington Monthly.

It’s hard to say with confidence which party will hold the congressional majority next year, but Paul Krugman noted yesterday that “fake scandals” will be all the rage in the 112th Congress if there’s a Republican majority.

We’ll be having hearings over accusations of corruption on the part of Michelle Obama’s hairdresser, janitors at the Treasury, and Larry Summers’s doctor’s dog. If you don’t believe me, you weren’t paying attention during the Clinton years; remember, we had months of hearings over claims that something was fishy in the White House travel office (nothing was).


This may sound hyperbolic. It’s not. In the Clinton era, House Republicans held two weeks of hearings investigating the Clintons’ Christmas card list, and the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform fired a bullet into a “head-like object” — reportedly a melon — in his backyard to test his conspiracy theories about Vince Foster. All told, over the last six years of Bill Clinton’s presidency, that same committee unilaterally issued 1,052 subpoenas — that’s not a typo — to investigate baseless allegations of misconduct. That translates to an average of a politically-inspired subpoena every other day for six consecutive years, including weekends, holidays, and congressional recesses.

It would almost certainly be worse in 2011 and 2012. Indeed, the man positioned to lead the committee — reformed alleged car thief Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) — has already said he’s inclined to leave “corporate America” alone, so he can attack the White House relentlessly.

For that matter, let’s also not forget that some Republicans, including two members of Congress, have raised the specter of presidential impeachment once there’s a GOP majority.

But Krugman also flagged this item from John Quiggin, reflecting on another likely scenario in the event of a GOP House majority.

What surprises me is that no-one has drawn the obvious inference as to what will follow, namely a shutdown of the US government.

It seems obvious to me that a shutdown will happen — the Republicans of today are both more extreme and more disciplined than last time they were in a position to shut down the government, and they did it then. And they hate Obama at least as much now as they hated Clinton in 1995.


Agreed. John Boehner (R-Ohio) has already made some noises about refusing to fund health care programs, and given the party’s desperation to please its right-wing base, it stands to reason Republicans would gladly shut down the government as a means towards obstructing the agenda approved in 2009 and 2010.

If I were laying odds, I’d say the chances of a prolonged government shutdown next year are well over 50% — if there’s a Republican majority, that is.


http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/07/18/get-ready-for-fake-scandals-and-gov-shut-down-if-gop-grabs-control-of-congres/



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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 03:23 PM
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1. We MUST work hard to make sure that doesn't happen. We
MUST turn out Democratic voters in November 2010. If we do not, then we lose. If we lose...we will have a very hard time turning it around.

I see no options other than that.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 04:32 PM
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7. And how ironic is it...
that the only way "we" would lose would be for our fellow citizens, supposedly also Americans, to vote in large numbers to put these scoundrels back into power. After what they've done to us. In the name of "saving America".

God must be so totally cracking up right now.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 07:21 PM
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12. Ironic, perhaps. Yet, the answer remains the same. We must
bring Democratic voters to the polls. Everything else is secondary, unless you wish for the Republicans to regain power.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 03:43 PM
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2. Logical results of Repub hissy fit: another 9/11, another bush depression, 2 more wars
The actions of the Republicans do have consequences.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 03:46 PM
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3. The bad news - if somebody more competent than Newt ends up in charge
they could fuck up the country for decades to come, maybe forever.

The good news - I think they are all even more incompetent than Newt.
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Gaedel Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 03:54 PM
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4. Unless they have a slam dunk in the Senate
The Republicans will not impeach. They remember Bill clinton's Rose Garden "victory party" after Senate acquittal. This is also probably why impeachment was "off the table" in 2007-2008.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 03:57 PM
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5. Slam dunk on what? They have nothing.......
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 06:24 AM
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13. Impeach?
What would be the grounds for impeachment?

:shrug:
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 03:57 PM
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6. Too Bad We Didn't Get a Shutdown When Health Care Reform Was Under Debate
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 04:35 PM
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8. The nextgen Swift Boaters are warming up right at this moment.



Count on it.


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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 04:55 PM
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9. K&R
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 04:55 PM
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10. Yup. The banksters will have a field day. (nt)
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 06:05 PM
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11. Then the Senate should start holding hearings on BushCo's crimes.
I'm guessing the GOP would back off rather quickly.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 07:14 AM
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14. It's not going to happen
They are going to be even more shocked than 2008.
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