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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 01:05 PM
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Watch Obama and George Stephanopoulous here
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 01:16 PM
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1. Is there supposed to be a video link?
Edited on Sun May-13-07 01:19 PM by JDPriestly
I don't see one. I think that Obama is too ready to compromise. I have liked Obama up to this point, but from the article on this website, it sounds like he doesn't have much backbone. It's time for Democrats to give voters a clear choice. Obama is not clear about what he is going to do, what he stands for. That does not work. You cannot win office by saying you are a compromiser. You are not giving people anything to vote for. No wonder so many conservatives like Obama. It is going to be easy to win against him.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 01:43 PM
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2. Would You Rather Have Someone Who Talks Left, But Votes Right?
Seems like those are the only other likely options.

That being said, I think Obama's just being practical, honest, and consistent. To me, this is a refreshing change.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 01:43 PM
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3. The link is on the upper right. It's a whole 25-minute interview.
Actually, after seeing it, I realize that although Obama is a little too "centrist" for me, I could be fairly enthusiastic about him after the primary. As far as bringing people together, we are really going to need to do that after 2008, We need to rehabilitate all the low-SES Bush people & re-educate them if we are planning to make a real sea change in this nation rather than just treating 2008 as our turn on the up end of the political seesaw.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 01:53 PM
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4. Obama is the man that can HEAL this nation.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 02:38 PM
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8. Not unless he gets elected.
As a lawyer, he should know that you don't start negotiations by stating you don't know exactly what you want, but you are willing to make a deal. You start with a demand. You say, "Here is my view of the facts. Here is what I want for my client." Then and only then do you listen to what the other side is saying and move gradually toward a compromise that gives each side a little of what they want.

Obama's approach is to play the mediator's role from the get-go. He is wrong on that. Since 2002, we on the Democratic side have had no input and no voice on any of the decisions that have been made by our government. Bush has never compromised, never offered to really even listen to Democrats or consider Democratic ideas. And the press has ignored us. The country does not know who we are, what we will do and why. The country is adrift, floating along on this nutty conservative philosophy that is just a cover for gifts to the wealthy and hand-outs to the corporations so that nobody notices that they are taking all of America's toys to Dubai, China and India.

The Bushies have no plan for the future of the American people. It is time for Democratic candidates to state strongly what Democrats stand for and offer ordinary people in this country. We should not be starting from our ending position -- which is to reach compromise after and I emphasize after we have presented our view of the facts and our goals to the voters. Obama is starting at the wrong point-- and the Republicans are going to eat him whole chew him thoroughly and spit him out . . . . for it.

To be a great president, you need to be willing to offend some people some of the time. Obama needs to tell the American people straight out what he stands for in terms of policy -- what makes him different from Mitt Romney and Tommy Thompson and Giuliani. After all, any one of them can present the face of the healer -- all you have to do is say I love you to the public. That seems to be all that Obama is offering thus far -- good looks, a great personality, intelligence and lots of love. In the end, everyone will like him and then vote for somebody who seems strong enough to take care of them in the face of the evils of the world, the terrorists, etc.

I like Obama, and I am willing to give him a chance because there is still lots of time. But I think that as a graduate of Harvard law school he should be able do do better.

Thus far, in my view, Edwards is way ahead of Obama in terms of giving voters a sense of who he is and where he will lead the country. It seems to me that Edwards has spent a lot of time thinking about what America needs, what he can offer America, where he will take our country, what his priorities will be and how he will achieve them. Obama needs to do the same.

I get the sense that Obama is taken with the idea of being president and is being swept up by the enthusiasm of the crowds that have convinced themselves that he is the personification of their own personal hopes. Obama has a lot of charisma going for him. Obama needs to take some time to think about what he can offer America that the Republicans he is so ready to compromise with cannot offer. People are going to be very disappointed when they find out that the personification of their hopes doesn't have a clue as to what their hopes really are and cannot offer any plan to realize those hopes. Obama needs to get his plan out there -- not this week or even this month, but before the campaign season really gets going. He has received a lot of money from a lot of people. He needs to use some of it to formulate his plan for America.

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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 02:04 PM
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5. What do you want a Democrat that can win or another Republican President?
And, your ignorance of Obama's positions scare me. If you're basing your opinions on the few positions he discussed on this interview then you really need to educate yourself more.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 02:13 PM
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6. What's your take on Obama?
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 02:48 PM
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10. I'm for Obama. You couldn't figure that out from my post?
I wasn't responding to you.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 02:32 PM
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7. He said one thing that I'm uneasy with
that raising the age for social security "is on the table"
To me, it shows a rich boy mentality and no connection with people who have to drive a rig, fix cars, or work with their bodies. This may be fine for the likes of Oprah, Mike Wallace, Larry king, but not for people who get OLD working with their bodies. As a union man , I resent this.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 02:44 PM
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9. Raising the age for social security is completely unrealistic.
The age has already been raised. I have a couple of years to go to get full social security, and to look at me you will agree that I am probably in the upper 90% of people my age in terms of my health and physical fitness. But, I have arthritis in my hands. It doesn't hurt, and you won't see it when you look at me. I can still type fast, but the arthritis slows me down when I have to pick up a piece of paper. An older person may have better judgment, be more dependable and have more knowledge about his or her work than a yonder person, but may tire more quickly or not be able to work as quickly as a younger person. Age discrimination is rampant in the working world. Employers do not focus on training older people, teaching them new skills or giving them challenging new opportunities. There is no way you can raise the age still more on social security eligibility. It will not work.
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 05:44 PM
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11. Just a quick note to say that Obama grew up in my neighborhood,
in a tiny apartment with his Grandma. His mother struggled to keep a roof over their heads. Just fyi.
Aloha.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 09:33 PM
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12. and I'll bet she thanked God every month
after she reached 62(then)
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 09:37 PM
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13. If you're speaking of his mother, she died of ovarian cancer at age 53.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 09:49 PM
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14. Grandma
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