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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:28 AM
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Whoever turns out to have actually pulled the trigger on Sherrod,
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 11:05 AM by Jackpine Radical
they did so out of fear of Fox News, and in an atmosphere of overreactive jumpiness. This is pretty nuts to begin with. There are no votes to lose among Fox viewers. Somebody needs to start thinlking about how to make this kind of shit splash back on its source. If they aren't willing to pull the broadcast licenses of these serial liars, then they ought to at least figure out how to publicize their lies in such a way as to discredit them.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:30 AM
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1. in all the teevee babble this am, not once have i heard the words 'fox news'
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 10:31 AM by spanone
the m$m protects their own
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:35 AM
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4. I'm the farthest thing in the world from being a media conslutant, but
I can't believe that the administration is powerless to get their messages out. I say this while fully acknowledging the corporate grip on the American M$M. But mammals survived by being more adaptable and smarter than dinosaurs.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:43 AM
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9. Totally agreed. OT: Conslutant. That sounds kinda dirty. I like it. :) nt
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:46 AM
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10. Crap. I didn't see the typo, but I'm with you; I like it so it stands.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:57 AM
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16. I heard it on MSNBC
I think it was Norah O'Donell who reported that Fox was "driving the story."
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:30 AM
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2. actually it appears it was done out of fear of Glenn Beck - even worse
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:51 AM
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14. I think that it wasn't out of fear, but out of trust that FX told the truth.
They assumed that the video was as Fox said a racist moment and they acted quickly to stop this woman. It was the idea to not allow this to stand and to be intolerant of anything smelling of racism.

They trusted that Fox news hadn't falsified this video. That was there mistake. They thought that journalism lived in the Fox realm of the msm.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:32 AM
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3. No votes to lose but Faux is the starter for the Noise Machine?
Maybe they wanted to contain the flap before the whole orchestra started playing.

We don't really have an outlet like that so the fight is always asymmetrical.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:43 AM
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8. yes, as in asymmetrical warfare. Two examples of asymmetrical war come to mind
from American history. The first is our own revolution, in which a ragtag bunch of ill-equipped colonists beat the massed forces of the Britsh (admittedly greatly aided by the fact that the Brits were being somewhat distracted by the French at the time). The second was Vietnam, in which a ragtag army of ill-equipped Vietnamese eventually prevailed over our high-tech legions with all their APCs, B-52s, helicopters, etc.

Objectively weak does not equate to defenseless.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:46 AM
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12. Very true. And maybe why Rahm et all need to stop telling the lighter,
more nimble blogosphere to shut up.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:35 AM
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5. I am outraged beyond belief by this...lies by a racist thug, promoted by a fascist news channel
...AND NO FUCKING CONSEQUENCES FOR EITHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:01 AM
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18. I'd like to be on the jury for a civil defamation suit.
Really I would.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:36 AM
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6. Assuming it was a single person
Its easier that way--to think that. In politics, if you think one of your workers will be featured on FOX/Glenn Beck for racism, isn't that an invitation to call in the political advisors to develop a strategy to deal with the fallout? It could of been a room full of people. Or a few rooms, with people communicating through conference calls
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:50 AM
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13. A single person? i doubt it; it was most likely a groupthink decision.
My point is simply that it was made in a "culture of fear," and is not ending well. We need people who are capable of controlling the message better than that. I don't have any wonderful ideas on how that might be done, but we had best get to work on figuring out how.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:38 AM
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7. This is an election year
and Congressmen are jumpy. Any sudden howls from their constituents, even the baggers who wouldn't vote for a Democrat were guns pointing to their most tender parts, will cause them to start pressuring flunkies on the White House staff to make it stop.

I think that's what's happened here.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:46 AM
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11. I think it's racism.
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 10:49 AM by liberalmuse
Or self-conscious racism. My reaction to the initial story was sadness, but it was also, 'Jeez, I hate racism, and will jump on white people who are guilty, so it would be hypocritical not to be outraged when a person of color is guilty.' I'm pissed, though, because the news sources I rely on, and considered trustworthy took up Faux News' bullshit story and spread it without question. I'm pissed at myself for not digging deeper. WE now have to be the reporters, because the people designated as such, who get paid big bucks and who have supposedly been trained and, we're told, are qualified to 'research and report the facts' have completely dropped the ball - or they no longer have ethics. And I'm pissed that Biebert still has a platform where he can freely distribute his propaganda from. That is unacceptable, and that platform (Faux News) needs to be pulled the fuck down, just like that statue of Saddam in Iraq (although that was a bullshit propaganda story, too, come to think about it - jeez.)
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:55 AM
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15. When Dems Get Caught Up In Something The Repugs Always Demand An Apology.......
why aren't we - at the least - demanding an apology by Breitbart and Fox News?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:59 AM
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17. The admin can't or it looks like bullying. It has to be someone else. n/t
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:11 AM
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19. The White House is AFRAID of Glenn beck - it is truly pathetic.
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