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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 09:52 PM Original message |
Is Barack Obama a "progressive"? |
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scrubthedata (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. Answer: absolutely not! n/t |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-10 08:12 AM Response to Reply #1 |
48. Well...that's informative. Words are free...use as many as needed |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
2. Not really and I never saw him as one. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
3. Yes yes yes yes yes! |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yes, he's a progressive |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
5. Dupe |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
6. Tried to rec this to positive. |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
7. I honestly do not see how entrenching for profit "private delivery" of health care |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
8. Nope... |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
9. propping up the shack built on sand is not progress, it is "kicking the can down the road". |
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Steely_Dan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
10. Would You Consider The Following as Progressive? |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. Nice quote. Yes, that would be progressive. n/t |
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Steely_Dan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:46 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. And Doesn't This Show... |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
11. Who knows? Who cares? |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
12. we were thrown.... |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
13. Oh boy, here we go... |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
14. If opposing gay marriage and escalating war is now progressive, sure. |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
15. not to my definition |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
16. Of course. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. By "realities of Congress", do you mean..? |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Yes. |
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Fuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
17. lmao, no. |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
18. NO! nt |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
19. he's too conservative to be a progressive. imo n/t |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
20. No. Not even close. |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
22. I support him, but never thought he was progressive. |
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DonCoquixote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
23. Progressive |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
24. No. n/t |
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Foo Fighter (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
27. To paraphrase Bill Clinton, it depends on what the meaning of "progress" is. |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
29. Not by the typical definition, but I knew he was relatively moderate from the beginning. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
30. Your definition of "Progressive" is laughable |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 11:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Thanks! |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 11:50 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Great minds and all that |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
31. Obama is progressive. His administration is not. n/t |
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jae1227 (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
32. NO!!! |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
33. Id say absolutely not |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-10 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
34. I'm Liberal. Obama is a moderate conservative, but his |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-10 02:17 AM Response to Original message |
37. Is the grass blue? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-10 02:34 AM Response to Original message |
38. Your definition of progressive is the first such definition I have encountered. |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-10 02:50 AM Response to Original message |
39. Are Beavis And Butthead Rhodes Scholars? |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-10 03:24 AM Response to Original message |
40. Obama is not "Progressive" - he is not even liberal, except by today's GOP driven |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-10 03:25 AM Response to Original message |
41. delete-triple post. |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-10 03:25 AM Response to Original message |
42. Delete-triple post - bug reported. |
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MikeNY (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-10 03:40 AM Response to Original message |
43. Limited by circumstance and smart enough to realize it |
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lib_wit_it (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-10 04:00 AM Response to Original message |
44. No. Progressives, in the accepted political sense, are liberals. One can make progress toward any |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-10 05:52 AM Response to Original message |
45. No. And he made it clear on day one he wasn't. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-10 06:23 AM Response to Original message |
46. Based on his actions and looking at the actions of progressives before him, |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-10 06:28 AM Response to Original message |
47. Progressive? Good one. Not even close. I dare you to make this a poll |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-10 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
49. and bush was a compassionate conservative!! |
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Bloofer_Lady (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-10 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
50. It's obvious he's not |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-10 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
51. No. |
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meow mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-10 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
52. no. these "steps forward" as you call them can be measured with a hairs width |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-10 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
53. If you really want to talk about "moving forward," read up on Zeno's Paradox |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-10 08:33 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. I think you got that backwards |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-10 08:38 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. From Wikipedia - Zeno's illustration of Achilles and the Tortoise |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-10 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
54. No, he is not a Progressive. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-10 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
57. Yes. |
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RadioFlynn (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-22-10 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
58. Obama bragged about the fact that the HCR bill is "centrist" |
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