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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 12:53 PM
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"Immigrants. Taking our jobs and public assistance. The cause of all our problems."

Give Us Your Lavishly Rich, Your Xenophobic
by Paul Buchheit
July 22, 2010

Immigrants. Taking our jobs and public assistance. The cause of all our problems.

But it's not true. We're blaming people who are struggling day-by-day to survive on their own or support their families, while we applaud a system that allows a financial expert to make enough money to pay the salaries of 50,000 police officers.

Here are some facts:

The Census Bureau and the World Wealth Report 2010 both report increases for the top 5% of households even during the current recession.

Based on Internal Revenue Service figures, the richest 1% have TRIPLED their cut of America's income pie in one generation. In 1980 the richest 1% of America took one of every fifteen income dollars. Now they take THREE of every fifteen income dollars. That's a TRILLION extra dollars a year.

Some ultra-rich individuals, like hedge fund managers David Tepper and John Paulson, made $4 billion in a year (on most of which they paid only a 15% capital gains tax rate). This is enough to pay the salaries of every public school teacher in New York City.

But we blame the immigrants instead of the people taking unimaginable amounts of money from society.

Howard Zinn wrote about the petty thieves who go to jail for crimes averaging $1000 per offense, while sophisticated financial insiders get probation for swindling millions from the system. The only difference now is that it's "legal" to use financial trickery to divert funds from education and infrastructure to a few well-positioned money managers.

Read the full article at:

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/07/22



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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 12:58 PM
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1. If we weren't funding wars and sending money to other countries...
We could afford health care for all, and eliminate our debt in short order. But no... the guide to class warfare says to continue blaming the poor brown people for everything. That keeps the poor white people whipped to an evil froth, and that keeps the poor brown people whipped to a froth. In short, what you get is class warfare disguised as race warfare. All this hate keeps the eyes on each other, over a minuscule slice of the pie, when the real robber of tax dollars is evil war that sucks nearly two thirds of our taxes and puts it into the pockets of the 2% that control all of the money.

The rest of the discussion is just fertilizer.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 01:00 PM
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2. The undocumented are keeping Social Security afloat
In case you were wondering why no one in Congress is rushing to solve the immigration problem.
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SunnySong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 02:55 PM
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9. And what happens to the illegal immigrants when they retire...
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 03:00 PM
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10. They get zip.
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SunnySong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 03:03 PM
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11. Not really a selling point on illegal immigration is it.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 04:51 PM
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20. They don't come here so they can retire and get Social Security
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SunnySong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 08:21 PM
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24. Right we use them like slaves and then they die in a ditch.
I have never understood why the proponents of illegal immigration think they are helping them by allowing them to be exploited.

We should have no exploited workers in America.... period.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 03:16 PM
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12. and a reason why gay marriage will always be fought against
when single gay people die, we all get to keep their social security..if they are allowed to legally marry, a spouse would have a claim on it..
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 01:03 PM
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3. On last night's show, Tweety was sayng that these RWingnuts are selling the zero sum idea
Edited on Thu Jul-22-10 01:04 PM by BrklynLiberal
to their ignorant masses. They are hammering at the idea that the more "THEY" have the less "WE" have.

It is obviously an idea that is easily sold to people who are ignorant, fearful, economically threatened, and/or can use it to further their own agendas.
There must be a push to prove what we found out during the Clinton Administration...a rising tide lifts ALL BOATS!!!!

EDIT; Will I EVER learn to spellcheck before hitting post?
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 01:05 PM
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4. "Immigrants. Taking our jobs and public assistance. The cause of all our problems."
Huh. This could have been a political poster from 1910...and here it is 2010. The more things change...

Sad that many descendants of hated immigrants from 1910, are now joining the hatred against the new immigrants.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 01:06 PM
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5. "The cause of all our problems"? No. Not even close.
Edited on Thu Jul-22-10 01:08 PM by Edweird
A contributing factor? Absolutely.
A weapon used by the people identified in the article to break the back of American labor? Yes.
Race to the bottom wages is a terrible long term strategy - that's why every country with a decent standard of living has strictly enforced immigration laws.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 01:14 PM
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6. Right-wing attacks undocumented workers to divide the working class and break organized labor.

Some labor unions are now trying to organize undocumented workers, as labor should, to lift everyone up!
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 03:30 PM
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16. Illegal immigration, H1-B's, outsourcing all work to drive wages down.
All the 'organizing' in the world doesn't change the fact that there are 6 people applying for every job opening.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 05:06 PM
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21. Immigrants haven't destroyed jobs, the capitalists have.

So your solution is to round-up and drive out 12 million undocumented workers .... perhaps holding them at internment camps until they can be processed?

The other option is to organize ALL workers in North America no matter where they may have been born so that all will be lifted up and to demand Jobs for All. There is a great deal of useful work that needs to be done and if sufficient government resources are devoted a massive public works and reconstruction program we would have a labor shortage in this country!

The difference between you and me is that I look at it from an international working class standpoint. And you seem to look at it from a very limited and narrow nationalistic viewpoint.

This is an international campaign to drive down the living standards of working people in all nations and to fight it effectively we must put aside national chauvinism and become internationalists.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 07:19 PM
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22. Yes, the capitalists destroyed wages with outsourcing, H1-B's and illegal immigrants.
That's why countries with decent standards of living enforce their strict immigration laws - to protect and maintain the standard for their citizens.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 09:30 PM
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25. They have not increased real wages in 30 years.

And they cut wages by crippling the union movement more than anything else beginning with the 1980 PATCO air traffic controllers strike. The many millions of union members who have been downsized out of jobs over the past 30 years have not been replaced by undocumented workers.

Since 1980 the labor movement has been in decline with only about 7% of workers in private industry presently organized. Undocumented workers aren't responsible for that. And the employers didn't need or feel any pressure from undocumented workers to launch their wage and job cutting plans. But, it's sure a good idea for big business to scapegoat undocumented workers. How convenient!

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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 03:40 PM
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18. PS, it is no coincidence that the sworn enemy of the middle class, Reagan
was the supporter of 'amnesty'. That amnesty was part and parcel of his assault on American labor.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 03:16 PM
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13. All EU countries have open immigration with each other and their standard of living is quite decent.
That's 30 countries (the EU 27 plus Iceland, Norway and Switzerland) whose citizens are free to live and work anywhere in that 500 million person bloc of countries. Unions are healthier in Europe than they are here.

Immigration is not what hurts our standard of living. (Europe and Canada have a higher percentage of foreign-born than we do.) It's the absence of progressive government that hurts us and the presence of which helps the others.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 03:28 PM
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15. This again? Your false analogy is false - no matter how many times you post it.
Moving between EU 'states' is equivalent to moving between states here in the US. The immigration from OUTSIDE the EU states is, in fact, regulated.
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SunnySong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 09:53 PM
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26. Well the analogy is faulty I'm sure if you include people that immigrate between states
we have a much higher movement ratio...

Also some countries like Ireland are actively trying to kick the Poles out.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 02:52 PM
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7. Yep. Greed had nothing to do with it.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 02:53 PM
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8. kick
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 03:26 PM
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14. Yeah, it's time to deport BP for criminal activity and
Edited on Thu Jul-22-10 03:29 PM by Cleita
and taking assistance from our government and using our natural resources for their enrichment. The list goes on, negligent homicide on their oil drilling operation, ecocide in the Gulf and environmental pollution, getting a convicted terrorist released and freed, and now the latest is the slaughter of mustangs during the foaling season resulting in the bloody death of pregnant mares and foals because they are in the way of a gas line they want to put in. They are the immigrants I don't want here.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 03:33 PM
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17. The upper 1% hoarding $10 trillion all for themselves and refusing to hire.
That is what is taking our jobs from us.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 03:43 PM
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19. The poor...there to scare the shit out of the middle class.
Keep them showing up on time to those jobs.

--George Carlin
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 07:42 PM
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23. When I was a kid all the adults were saying the same thing about blacks
They were promoting the idea of "Sending them all back to Africa.", as I recall.

We sure have evolved haven't we?

Don
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