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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 01:46 PM
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MSNBC has right-wing shill group spokesman on saying teens aren't employed because of high min wage!
:crazy:

He said this repeatedly, then agreed with the MSNBC anchor that 35 year olds were taking the same jobs. Huh? So it's too expensive to hire a teen, but not too expensive to hire a 35 year old?

That's when I decided to look up this organization to see who this clown was speaking for.

Employment Policies Institute

The Employment Policies Institute (EPI) is one of several front groups created by Berman & Co., a Washington, DC public affairs firm owned by Rick Berman, who lobbies for the restaurant, hotel, alcoholic beverage and tobacco industries. While most commonly referred to as EPI, it is registered as a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization under the name of "Employment Policies Institute Foundation." In its annual Internal Revenue Service return, EPI states that it "shares office space with Berman & Company on a cost pass through basis". <1>

...


Creation of "Rethink Reform"

In 2009, EPI created a group called Committee to Rethink Reform and started running television, print, and radio advertisements to mobilize opposition to the Democrats' health care reform legislation. The group is a 501 (c)4 organization and subsequently not required to disclose its donors--one of the hallmarks of a Rick Berman-operated group. The group has its own W

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Advertising against ACORN

In October 2008, as Republicans were accusing ACORN, which organizes in low-income communities, of "voter fraud," EPI took out a full-page ad in the New York Times that directed readers to www.RottenAcorn.com. The ad accused "ACORN of a list of abuses that suggest hypocrisy on some of the group's signature issues: intimidating and firing its own employees if they try to unionize, misappropriating millions of dollars from taxpayer-funded government grants and advocating minimum wage hides while paying its own employees less than minimum wage," reported ProPublica. EPI and Center for Consumer Freedom spokesperson Tim Miller said they placed the ad because after the election, "a lot of the coverage of ACORN is going to go away, but they are going to continue the same corrupt and fraudulent practices." <2>

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Against raising the minimum wage

Rick Berman created EPI in 1991 to "argue the importance of minimum wage jobs for the poor and uneducated."<3>

EPI has has been widely quoted in news stories regarding minimum wage issues, and although a few of those stories have correctly described it as a "think tank financed by business," most stories fail to provide any identification that would enable readers to identify the vested interests behind its pronouncements. Instead, it is usually described exactly the way it describes itself, as a "non-profit research organization dedicated to studying public policy issues surrounding employment growth" that "focuses on issues that affect entry-level employment.

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http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Employment_Policies_Institute

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So MSNBC thought it was acceptable to bring an anti-minimum wage group on the discuss why they thought the teen unemployment rate was so high? So the effing clown said that the reason that the teen unemployment rate is so high is due to the "excessively high" minimum wage. Really? WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU THINK THEY WERE GOING TO SAY - MSNBC, YOU EFFING MORANS.


Please email their news group and tell them not to bring on shill groups to talk about serious issues in this country!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10285339
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 01:47 PM
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1. 80% of the population, including many conservatives
support wage standards.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 01:52 PM
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3. Two questions
Where did you get that statistic?

And what is meant by "wage standards"?

Always, always, when you break down a generic term that is not used to describe any law or standard practice -- you'll get a higher response. That's why "is the government responsible to guarantee health care" gets such a high response; while specific practices like single payer, govt subsidies, ending private insurance, get very different response.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 01:48 PM
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2. In 1988 I made $8.50/hr working part time, during the summer.
It was the hardest job I ever had, line cook at Applebees.

Anyone know what Applebees pays these days?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 02:03 PM
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6. about the same considering the rise in the cost of living
i was making 12-14 an hour in 1980 when i was laid off. the next full time job was in 88 started at 8+ the ended at 12+. 98-2002 i was making 12. this is within the same comparable industry. from 2002-2007 i made 9.50.

i was making more in the 70`s than my last job in the 2000`s
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 02:02 PM
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4. Young people (and older people and many in between) are unemployed
because of the Bush tax cuts to the rich. Tax rates on the high incomes were reduced to 25% during the 1920s. What did we get? The Great Depression.

Marginal tax rates on the upper incomes were reduced to 35% during the Bush administration. And what did we get? The current recession.

Minimum wages have nothing to do with depressions and recessions. And the unemployment we have now is caused by the current recession.

Check out this:

http://howardthecoach.blogspot.com/

which refers you to this:

---Tax data based on figures provided by the Tax Foundation, http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.html
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 02:02 PM
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5. In other words, get with the program--lower the wages, lower the
wages lower the wages. After all Business have to make
a high profit for Elites and Investors. Cheap Labor means
higher profits for business.

This is in keeping with GOP Ideology.

If MSNBC is going to bring them on program, point out
the ideology behind their wild statements. The GOP
expecially conservatives fight minimum wage every
time it comes up.

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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 02:07 PM
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7. Here's a thought
For anybody out there pissing and moaning that the minimum wage is too high and they "can't afford to hire people" because of it...

Get off your cheap lazy ass and do it yourself!! The goddamn world doesn't owe you anything and that includes cheap labor!!

:grr: :grr: :grr:
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 02:10 PM
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8. They've been saying that since I was a teenager
And that was a long, long time ago.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 04:13 PM
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12. I wasn't posting about what they said, it was that they had a RW shill on
but they never identified him as such.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 02:11 PM
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9. The truth is workers are so desperate
and the labor market so tight, companies are getting mature, experienced workers for minimum wage.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 02:46 PM
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10. Well, sure, you can find out all that stuff
But how in the world can you expect NBC or MSNBC to figure out all the background for its guests? And disclosing any of that? Well, gee whiz, they'd have to have some kind of, I don't even know what you'd call it, super-duper finding-stuff-out machine or something. And be able to put up graphics and things at the very same time they're putting stuff on the teevee. You want the impossible!
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 02:54 PM
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11. I'm so demanding, I know
Someday we might even have 'honesty in journalism'. I can dream, can't I?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 05:29 PM
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13. I sent a complaint to MSNBC about having shills on who hide thier agenda
Edited on Thu Jul-22-10 05:30 PM by HughMoran
I hope others have as well - so far it seems most people here like to complain, but take a simple action involving typing a couple of sentences of complaint to MSNBC - too much 'activism'. :eyes:
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 05:34 PM
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14. When Reagan was President a Law was passed that exempted
employers from having to pay teen agers minimum wage, and I don't believe that Law was ever repealed. So they are completely full of it.
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