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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 04:16 PM Original message |
HRC says Obama administration is reinforcing 'ridiculous, offensive stereotypes' about gays |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. Deleted message |
Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Careful there, feller |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 07:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. You certainly got that right |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
36. careful there missy |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. I don't think I have ovaries |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:51 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. They do not have to defend the statute |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 11:06 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Any other cases where the DoJ shouldn't do their job? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. So Obama and the DOJ were wrong to revise the Smelt brief |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 10:07 AM Response to Reply #44 |
54. ********CRICKETS********* |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Even the crickets can't comment lol |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-25-10 01:58 AM Response to Reply #44 |
65. Yes |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-25-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. What they should be doing |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. They don't have to defend the way they are doing it and they don't have to defend to the extent. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 06:05 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Thank you. Point the above 2 ignored to: "The Choice to Defend DOMA, and Its Consequences" |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 07:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. You can't ignore the law, because it's convenient or you like that better |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 08:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
33. Obviously, you are not a lawyer. Obviously, Richard Socarides is. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 07:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Yes they do, that how justice works. The lawyer defending a rape suspect |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 08:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. "You need to understand how our justice system works." |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. There was nothing illegal in the defense |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. THIS is immorality-based: |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 10:37 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. Somebody is schooling you in the justice system? When this administration ignores torturers? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 11:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
45. there is an immense difference in mission between a defense attorney and an attorney defending laws |
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USArmyParatrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 11:42 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. So let me get this straight |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 05:02 AM Response to Reply #46 |
52. "You're saying DOJ attorneys who represent the US government aren't required to argue their case |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 10:18 AM Response to Reply #46 |
55. there is a difference between arguing a case with vigor |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 12:32 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. "supposed to be working for the Constitution, not a specific government official" |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 06:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. A most sensible observation! n/t |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 07:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Thank you! I will also add it's an accurate and honest one as well. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-25-10 02:17 AM Response to Reply #18 |
66. Which is why the mods deleted it. D'oh! |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 08:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. No, it's not. It's an oversimplification and a bad analogy. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 08:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. But that's what makes it so pragmatically sensible. n/t |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 08:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Oh, yes. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 09:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
35. And you continue to defend the indefensible |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 07:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
61. Did you just equate being gay to being a murderer? |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. Gasp! Gee HRC -- ya think?!?! |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Late to the party, just as everything was being put away. |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 05:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. I got another membership renewal thing from them. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 08:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
30. Yeah, nice of them to wake up. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
5. fierce advocate ... n/t |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
6. Wow, the HRC grew a spine |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Be still... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 06:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Time to buy |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
56. =) |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
8. This is what I expect a gay lobbying/advocacy group to do. |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
10. People unfamiliar with the community don't understand how big a deal this is |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 05:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I quit the HRC, especially after they badgered me on the phone endlessly for more |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 08:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. This is like Chris Crocker dissing Britney! |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 09:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
64. --- |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
12. HRC. It's about damned time! Welcome to the party, Pal! |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
21. You need some straight disruptors in this thread to tell you the real story. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 07:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I saw six ignored posts, I figured that was covered |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. There are some things one can always count on. n/t |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 09:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. Aw, that doesn't count. |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
22. I was thinking Hillary |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
32. No, the HRC claims it is bi-partisan and NON-partisan. n/t |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 01:22 AM Response to Reply #32 |
51. "No" what? |
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USArmyParatrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
34. Hey Bluebear, I'm glad you agree with HRC! Here's their release |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
62. 1) You're wrong, they DON'T have to, as explained upthread. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-10 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
38. Notice how the DOJ files these motions so as to hit the late Fri news dump? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 01:08 AM Response to Reply #38 |
48. Yes, I do. And it does. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
49. Obviously, Obama hasn't been much of a help -- personally or as president . . . |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 01:21 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. “I believe marriage is between a man and a woman.” - Barack Obama |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. So . . . IMO . . . none too helpful as far as a human rights issue . . . |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 08:07 PM Response to Reply #50 |
63. Ironically, Obama would be banned from DU for that stance. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-25-10 07:21 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Indeed! |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-26-10 07:24 AM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Lately, that's a very iffy assumption to make. n/t |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 05:10 AM Response to Original message |
53. K&R |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
58. God, if the suck-up hot tub set known as the HRC is pissed at Obama, he must be pretty bad. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-10 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
59. K&R |
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