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Lesleymo Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 07:17 AM
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I'm not crazy about Mika, but I do like her dad
Zbigniew Brzezinski on Morning Joe this morning:

We cannot "win" the war in Afghanistan, but we can find solutions if we work with other nations on a global basis.


He said more, but I can't recall the exact words - basically that our nation-building efforts will not result in a stable, peaceful Afghanistan and we need to learn to work with the rest of the world rather than charging into other countries like a cowboy on steroids, yee haw.

Well said, Mr. B.

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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 07:23 AM
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1. She seems stupid to me, with the fake serious expression and looking at her partner
as if she is thinking about what he is saying. About all she ever says is yea, oh, yeah. Um um.
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 09:08 AM
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11. Indeed. But I got a great laugh out of her continuous labeling of Buchanan as
Edited on Mon Jul-26-10 09:08 AM by AlabamaLibrul
"skank correspondent Pat Buchanan" after she refused to talk about the Lohan story, and I have to applaud her for refusing to talk about her, Paris Hilton, and other celebrity figures.

She's a kinda-sorta newscaster on a kinda-sorta morning news show. She fits in with the theme.

edited: journalist ---> newscaster. For accuracy.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 07:24 AM
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2. They're both pieces of shit. It was his brilliant idea to turn Afghanistan into a shithole...
in the first place. Fuck him.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 07:28 AM
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3. Ed Zachary. n/t
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 07:29 AM
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4. I get the feeling that he knows he was wrong back in the day...
He seems more "liberal" than he was when he was an advisor to Jimmy Carter. The world has changed a lot since then. He is freer to speak. And he is old.

Maybe I wasn't paying full attention but it seemed to me that he contradicted some of the things Mika was saying, defending the Obama administration while she was trying to muddy the waters by immediately going abrasive on all things Obama. Even Mark Halperin was correcting her, and he's no liberal...
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 09:00 AM
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9. he's had some insights that others missed,
including the whole CIA.

Poland, the collapse of the USSR, the muddle east,
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 07:40 AM
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5. The lucidity of old age
When you look back and see what you fucked up all your life, it's easy to come up with what you should have done. Pierdole kurwa.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 08:09 AM
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6. Amen, amen...n/t
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 08:13 AM
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7. He would know, since he started the whole thing
to begin with. This was Zbigniew's proxy war with the USSR and it broke them. No reason to think it won't break us too. So, I don't really think he's all that.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 08:20 AM
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8. If you read "Between Two Ages"..
Edited on Mon Jul-26-10 08:32 AM by girl gone mad
he has many disturbing philosophies, some of which have become reality in the decades since his book was published.

Writing in 1970, Brezinski states that the Establishment's plans for America's future are "directly linked to the impact of technology" and "involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled and directed society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite ... unrestrained by the restraints of traditional ... values (American peasants there goes your Constitution and Bill of Rights!)

This elite would not hesitate to achieve its political ends by using the latest modern techniques for influencing public and keeping society under close surveillance and control." In the January, 1968, edition of Encounter, Brezezinski elaborated on the prison camp he envisions for the U.S. It will be "possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and to maintain up-to-date, complete files, containing even the most personal information about the health or personal behavior of the citizen in addition to more customary data. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities."
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 09:05 AM
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10. Check into the Mighty Z a bit more.
Major asshole and corporate minion.



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