Wes Clark (and Assange) on Larry King, coming up.

elleng

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Mon Jul-26-10 08:02 PM
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Wes Clark (and Assange) on Larry King, coming up.

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BootinUp

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Mon Jul-26-10 08:26 PM
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1. Ellsberg on

Can't agree with him. Trashing the administration. Direct comparisons between Nam and Afghanistan are more fantasy than reality. Sure there are some things that are similar, but the cause of the war, the fact there is support from allies, and the level of the conflict itself in terms of casualties are quite different.

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BootinUp

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Mon Jul-26-10 08:29 PM
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2. Clark still not there

other guests have joined the discussion.

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BootinUp

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Mon Jul-26-10 08:44 PM
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3. Clark on next

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elleng

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Mon Jul-26-10 08:49 PM
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4. Wes on now.

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jerseygal

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Mon Jul-26-10 08:50 PM
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5. No access to Larry King - former Clark supporter here

Can someone summarize what he is saying?

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elleng

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Mon Jul-26-10 08:55 PM
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6. Hi, jersey!

Similar to what he said earlier today:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8819046

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BootinUp

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Mon Jul-26-10 09:02 PM
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7. Same thing he said earlier today

on MSNBC really.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8819046

He doesn't think the leaker (Pvt Manning) handled his objections to the war the proper way. Enlisted need to follow orders or take the standard path available to leave the service. Opposition intelligence could learn something from the material.
Perhaps this event can be a catalyst for broadening support, putting more pressure on Pakistan to hold up there end.

(I didn't try to type exactly the way he said it, just captured the theme best I could.)

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dkf

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Tue Jul-27-10 05:10 AM
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12. I'm suspicious as to who they wanted to keep this info from, the terrorists or the citizens.

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BootinUp

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Tue Jul-27-10 07:21 AM
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13. Why?

The information demonstrates that the US and allies have been straight up-front about the war if anything (from accounts I have read). I think the concerns about its release may be as much about what we don't know about the opposition and how we go about gathering information. This war (counter-insurgency) is all about intelligence/public perception-co-operation/and targeted military actions.

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dkf

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Tue Jul-27-10 11:19 AM
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15. What is coming out is a lot more detail than I remember hearing and the double crossing is worse

Edited on Tue Jul-27-10 11:22 AM by dkf

Nation building is a waste of time and money. We need to get out of the business.

We know the administration has an agenda that they don't want to take on the right on war. I don't trust them to come clean on this as it us not in their political interests.

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BootinUp

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Mon Jul-26-10 09:04 PM
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8. I once knew a Clark supporter

who called herself Jersey.

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elleng

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Mon Jul-26-10 09:26 PM
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9. Ditto! Who 'were' you, Boot?

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Tue Jul-27-10 05:02 AM
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11. jim4

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Kat45

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Mon Jul-26-10 10:37 PM
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10. Man, I wish I had seen this thread earlier so I could have watched.

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elleng

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Tue Jul-27-10 10:43 AM
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14. Voila, Kat!

http://securingamerica.com/node/3326

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Kat45

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Tue Jul-27-10 12:37 PM
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16. Thanks. n/t

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