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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:12 PM
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PHOTO: The "solution" to gay marriage exposed.


You know how the religious rights and their minions in the GOP are always squawking about the secret homosexual agenda? (Would that our side was organized enough to have an agenda.) We've been wondering what the true goal of the gay haters is. We've had our suspicions, but they're crafty, those haters. But, now we know. See, the National Organization for Marriage (NOM) is conducting a bus tour of hate this summer. It's been a bust with low turnout at every stop. The Courage Campaign has been tracking and documenting this tour.

Yesterday, the NOM hate bus pulled into Indianapolis. And, that's where the agenda was exposed by Bilerico's Bil Browning:

Now, we know. They want to kill us. Gay marriage = death.

NOM's Maggie Gallagher and Brian Brown preach a message of hate against LGBT Americans, as do so many of their colleagues in the theocratic right-wing. They want people to think LGBTs are not equal. They want people to think LGBTs are lesser humans. They shouldn't be surprised when their followers come up with solutions like the one in the photo above. That's the path NOM is leading its followers down.

http://www.americablog.com/2010/07/anti-gay-agenda-exposed-in-indianapolis.html
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glen123098 Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:13 PM
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1. Doesn't that same chapter also say death to people wearing fixed fabrics and eating shrimp?
www.godhatesshrimp.com
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:20 PM
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2. Yes.
Same book that deems it OK to throw your daughters to get raped so that your angelic houseguests won't...among many other things.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:20 PM
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3. Espousing hatred and violence against American is treason.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:21 PM
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4. That's obscene.
Don't you love the way they always pick and choose when it comes to scripture -- especially when it comes to Leviticus which has so many rules, no human being alive in this day and age could follow them all. I wonder if they eat shellfish or pork.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:22 PM
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5. Same area of Leviticus says you go to hell if you wear glasses (well, that's how I read it)
Edited on Tue Jul-27-10 04:25 PM by texastoast
And since we are on the subject, might as well repost this. One of my favorites:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/drlaura.asp

Dear Dr. Laura,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you for reminding us that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.

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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:35 PM
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14. LOL! That is priceless!
Thanks for posting. :rofl:
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:42 PM
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17. K&R!
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 05:10 PM
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24. That's wonderful.
:thumbsup:
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 06:04 PM
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26. Perfect.
I know someone that will enjoy this very much. Thank you for posting.

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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:24 PM
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6. Oh, good. Nooses.
Let's have a side of racism with our homophobia, shall we? :eyes:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 09:45 AM
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43. indeed
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:28 PM
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7. Matthew 7: 1-2
"Judge not, that ye be not judged.

For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again"

Suck it, douchebags.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:30 PM
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8. The fundies and the Taliban - there really is no difference.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:32 PM
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11. EXACTLY!!! n/t
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:45 PM
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18. Bingo. All religious fundies are really the same under the skin...
HATE HATE HATE! That is all they know, that is all they believe and that is all they preach.

They are all sick MFers...
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 06:12 PM
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27. You'd think they'd make natural allies.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:13 PM
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36. Part of their basic philophy is xenophobia...so even tho they share so much..they hate each other as
much as they hate the rest of us.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:30 PM
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9. they would be like the Taliban if they had enough support
they are already going to other nations to get laws in place to kill gays.

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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:31 PM
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10. These people are organized sociopaths trying to find targets to allow them
to practice their hatred and vile ways without being hospitalized or jailed.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:33 PM
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12. I forget...
Can I sell all of my daughters into slavery, or just the youngest?
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:34 PM
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13. Remember this, America.
Bible thumpers are as dangerous and evil as anyone on earth.

The fact that secular governments have held them in check for a couple hundred years should not mislead us into thinking they are any less violent or nasty than the worst fundies of Islam.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 06:28 PM
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31. Exactly - I have been repeating this on a daily basis:
A fundamentalist Xtian takeover of our government can and most likely will happen here. Will it happen in our lifetime? Probably not. But with every election they keep putting dangerous and scary people in charge like Bush, Boehner, and Roberts and Alito. They're certainly paving the way for it to happen.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:37 PM
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15. There's a lot of people who may not agree - BUT
they wouldn't lift a finger to stop it, should it get started.

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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 06:37 PM
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32. Well you know there are a variety of opinions and all are equally valuable...
...in our idiotic, so-called excuse for a "society".

Tesha
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:42 PM
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16. Just to ensure equal coverage of all "scripture" translations...
* ASV: (American Standard Version, 1901) "And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
* Darby: (J.N. Darby Translation, 1890): "And if a man lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall certainly be put to death; their blood is upon them."
* ESV: (English Standard Version): "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."
* HNV: (Hebrew Names Version): "If a man lies with a male, as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
* KJV: (King James Version): "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them."
* LB: (Living Bible): "The penalty for homosexual acts is death to both parties. They have brought it upon themselves."
* NASB: (New American Standard Bible): "'If {there is} a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them. "
* Net Bible: "If a man has sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman, the two of them have committed an abomination. They must be put to death; their blood guilt is on themselves." 1
* NIV: (New International Version) "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
* NKJV: (New King James Version) "If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them."
* NLT: (New Living Translation): "The penalty for homosexual acts is death to both parties. They have committed a detestable act, and are guilty of a capital offense."
* RSV: (Revised Standard Version): "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them."
* Webster: (Noah Webster Version, 1833): "If a man also shall lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood upon them."
* Young: (Robert Young Literal Translation, 1898) "And a man who lieth with a male as one lieth with a woman; abomination both of them have done; they are certainly put to death; their blood on them."

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibh3.htm

--------------------------------------------

THIS is what we teach our children??? :wtf:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:45 PM
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19. I wonder...
if that jag-bag mother fucker thinks Obama is "like Hitler."
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:50 PM
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20. There are much less offensive ways to state that gay marriage is against your religion.
Like on a campaign trail after saying you are a fierce advocate.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 06:00 AM
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41. !Sha-Zam!
No shit! Thank you.

It's only one song and just a two-minute prayer.

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:51 PM
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21. Its not that sign that worries as much as the homophobes in our own party
They're supposed to be on our side. They all claim such tolerance. They all say they support gay people. Some even say they have actual gay friends. I know that cuz i read it right here in River City. Some here have actual gay friends.

They just think gay rights need to wait. More important stuff, dontcha know. We have an election coming up, dontcha know? We need to win it cuz even one seat loss will be the end of it and Sarah Palin will be president. So not just now, gay people, okay?

When was that Leviticus bullshit penned? A few thousand years ago? How long do the kinder, gentler homophobes think Teh Gays ought to wait?





Hey, can someone pass me that jailhouse soap?

I'll shut up now.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:56 PM
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22. +1
I missed the soap post, dammit.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 05:01 PM
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23. It was monumental
Penned by one of our resident toleratitians.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 06:47 PM
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35. Yep
And it's our own fault we don't have our rights. We're supposed to beg for our rights from people who haven't the authority to withhold them in the first place. We're supposed to "reach out" to people like that guy, and win his "heart and mind". Meanwhile we're supposed to respect his "deeply held religious beliefs" because if we don't we're the oppressors and bigots.


Seriously, how the fark do you "reach out" to someone who clearly wants you dead? How do you win a thoroughly hard heart and closed mind? But naturally the fault lies with us, and not the idiot who uses ancient mythology to support his virulent bigotry.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 08:51 PM
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37. ++
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:12 PM
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39. +100,000
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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 05:15 PM
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25. The only thing that seperates Christian fundies and the Taliban is 8,000 miles
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 06:15 PM
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28. Two things.
Edited on Tue Jul-27-10 06:17 PM by BreweryYardRat
1. As far as I'm concerned, that sign is a blatant threat and incitement to violence, and the ape holding that sign should be thrown in prison. The law doesn't see it that way. We need to change our legal standards.

2. We need to punish anyone who's found guilty of a hate crime with execution. Death by hanging or firing squad, live on national television. Subhumans like the one in that picture are ticking time bombs, hate crimes waiting to happen. But they're also worthless cowards. Show them one of their filthy ape-kind getting what he deserves for his crimes, and the fear of death will keep others from attacking innocent men and women.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 06:23 PM
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29. Domestic terrorism. The particularly weak kind...
...that hides its hate behind deities hand-crafted for the purpose.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 06:41 PM
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33. "hand-crafted for the purpose" -- VERY well put!
I'm going to have to remember that turn of phrase.

:fistbump:
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 06:25 PM
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30. Very thoughtful of them to have left their address and phone.
Should've used 8-digit zip though. And area code. Although those are retrievable.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 06:43 PM
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34. Christianity is killing America!
I could only imagine what the founders would think if they could see what Christianity is doing to this country...They knew the dangers of Christianity dictating public policy and they tried to create measures to prevent what is going on today but after more than 225yrs those safeguards are coming down.

I honestly can't see how so many so-called "moderate Christians" can continue to LIE to themselves & make excuses for their religion that is based on Bronze Age Ideas from a Bronze Age Book that contains some of the most disgusting acts humans can do.

WHY? What is it that makes good people want to associate themselves with such a disgusting book? Jesus may have said some really pleasant words but he also said some really disgusting things as well. Jesus did nothing to stop slavery or abolish "God's Law" he said he came to fulfill it! That means Jesus supported killing homosexuals and all the other Bronze Age Morals we see in the so-called "Holy" Bible! The simple fact is Jesus was a human being just like us and he knew no better than the average Bronze Age male at the time what was right or wrong!

It is what it is so stop making excuses for something that can't and should not be excused! This is the 21st Century you don't need a Bronze Age Book to tell you how to live.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:00 PM
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38. jesus wept
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:14 PM
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40. And yet they IGNORE every other part of Leviticus

I see many Christians eating shellfish.

...and I don't see too many who offer up their daughters as prostitutes.


(both things are in Leviticus... can't eat shellfish...and must offer up daughters to visiting male guests).
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 06:02 AM
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42. I call them "buffet christians."
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 03:51 PM
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44. I could have told you that
They want to kill all of the gays. And the Atheists. And the Witches. And the Thinkers. And the scientists. And the doctors. And the teachers.

Need I go on?

The fact that these people have any sort of power is a testament to the kind of gov't we have. Evil roots from evil seeds.
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