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BakedAtAMileHigh Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 03:40 PM
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Awesomeness: CA Prop 19 leads 52% to 36%
Looks as is if it is all thanks to a certain new endorsement:

http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2010/07/were_winning_poll_shows_ca_pot_legalization_ahead.php

Pothead Power, people. California's Proposition 19, which would legalize, tax and regulate marijuana for adults 21 and older, is currently leading by a wide margin among state voters, according to a new poll. The measure is supported by 52 percent of voters, and opposed by only 36 percent.

The new PPP poll (PDF) shows the largest margin of support yet seen from recent polling on Prop 19, reports policy analyst Jon Walker at FireDogLake.

Interestingly, the poll found Prop 19 support among African Americans to be very high, possibly influenced by the California NAACP's recent endorsement of the legalization measure.

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 03:42 PM
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1. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, BakedAtMileHigh:thumbsup:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 03:42 PM
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2. Has Afro Man given his thumbs-up yet?
Or did he get high and shine it?
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 03:55 PM
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3. WOW! Awesome!
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 03:56 PM
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4. Good! n/t
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 04:01 PM
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5. K&R sweet 16!
Thanks for the link Baked.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 04:01 PM
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6. Toke of the town.
I love it!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 04:02 PM
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7. That is good news
but don't get complacent. Prop 8 was losing in the polls 2 years ago too, and then the goddamn Mormons parachuted in from Utah with all of their crap.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 04:14 PM
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9. True that. Look for a massive Reefer Madness propaganda effort to scare the old people and parents.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 04:59 PM
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11. That's what we should expect
A massive scare campaign paid for by fascist groups like the multi-billion dollar prison lobby and the Fraternal Order of Police, that have a vested interest in keeping a large prison population. They will aim to scare all of the Mommies and Daddies with young children, and if that campaign is not promptly countered, it will work.
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 06:54 PM
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19. yup.
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Cal Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 07:43 AM
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39. Well if its any reassurance to the parents
I distinctly remember it being easier to get pot than alcohol when I was underage because alcohol was regulated and no one checked your ID to buy pot. So it could make it harder for the kids to get pot if it's legal and regulated.

Heh heh :smoke:
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 04:09 PM
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8. Gnarly, dude!
:smoke:

--imm
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 04:32 PM
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10. kick
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 05:15 PM
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12. Booking my flight baby !!!!!!!
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 05:47 PM
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13. Funny - my friends and I were talking about that the other day.
We think if Prop 19 passes Venice Beach will overtake Amsterdam.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 06:47 PM
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15. No place will EVER overtake Amsterdam
Edited on Wed Jul-28-10 06:50 PM by marmar
The rest are just pretenders to the throne











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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 06:55 PM
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20. Cali and BC have all the strains now.
Yes I've been to Amsterdam, 3 times.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:38 PM
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25. What a beautiful place Amsterdam is
I want to go back soon.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:45 PM
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29. True - we dont have the RLD or the sex shops Amsterdam does.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:15 AM
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31. Their placard is written in English--that tells me where their customers are from
"This is very strong shit"
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:08 AM
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33. Not necessarily.....It just means their international customers are more likely to know English...
.... than any other common language. How many people from Japan or Argentina or Romania are likely to know Dutch?


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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 07:16 AM
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35. It won't be necessary.
Once it's legal in California their pot, sold legally, will find it's way into every state in the union through the black market. Then once the other states see how their consumer dollars are feeding California's coffers they will follow suit and legalize with very few if any exceptions.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 06:47 PM
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14. Has reason won the day somewhere?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 06:50 PM
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16. Certainly hope it makes it -- we need more states to do this . . .the War on Drugs is garbage . ...
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 06:52 PM
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17. Time to push like its down ten!
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 06:53 PM
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18. Shows that most people know the war on drugs is an expensive scam
We've spent billions of dollars fighting the war on drugs. After 30 years, drugs are even more available all across the US than ever before. The only change is that millions of poor and minority teenagers and young adults are in jail for possessing even a tiny amount of "the devil's weed." Rates of drug addiction haven't gone down, much of it has just switched to "legal" drugs like oxycontin, etc.

The war on drugs has turned out to be nothing but a war against minorities and young people. It is a failure and a scam to funnel money to foreign leaders favorable to Corporate control. Corruption in Columbia is not lower than before we started buying their politicians, far from it.

End this idiotic waste of time, manpower and money. Put those DEA resources to use elsewhere. Spend a fraction of that money on drug treatment and counseling and you'll see a much bigger difference.
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lib_wit_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:24 AM
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32. "[The War on Drugs] is a failure and a scam to funnel money to foreign leaders favorable to
Corporate Control."

Amen.

Love,
The Choir
: )
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jerseyjack Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:25 PM
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21. Start Your Own State's Bank
North Dakota is the only state to have its own bank. All money from state and public entities must be deposited in the Bank of North Dakota. Thus, the state keeps the float and not the banksters.

Your state's bank could provide the same services as a private bank but do so without gouging the public. It could issue loans to small business and promote the growth of the state's economy. It could even issue credit cards to citizens without usurious interest rates.

Check it out on the internet tubes and get your state legislature to start one.

---Thanks, Tom Hartman for the "heads up" on this.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:27 PM
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22. And since Repubs support states rights...
they won't oppose this at all on the Federal level. :eyes:
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 03:48 PM
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42. The big test will be whether or not Obama falls into line...
with California's decision, or let the DEA run wild with its federal authority. I am not at all convinced he will do the right thing.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:28 PM
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23. I've been trying to talk my wife into retiring in an area with great weather
The San Diego area really peaks my interest. This would be icing on the cake.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:37 PM
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24. If it passes, it will be like opening floodgates
It simply won't be possible to stop people from driving into California from anywhere else in the continental US to buy pot legally. It may end up forcing legalization, or at a minimum decriminalization, on the rest of the country.
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 10:28 PM
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30. It will be great for tourism too!
and California can use the business.

Oh, I SO CAN"T WAIT to vote this november.
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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:42 PM
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27. Legalize it and tax the fuck out of it.
Just like we do with cigarettes. The revenue would likely solve California's money troubles, let alone all the savings from scaled back enforcement/jailing of non-violent offenders.
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Unrepentant Fenian Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:43 PM
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28. Great news!
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 07:09 AM
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34. Interesting article on the subject by Nate Silver here:
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/07/broadus-effect-social-desirability-bias.html

Robopollsters like PPP probably tend to get a truer result on a question like this as opposed to live pollsters, due to the social stigma of admitting being in favor of marijuana legalization.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 07:24 AM
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36. Oakland City Council has already approved three pot growing dispensaries
Whether it passes or not Oakland will be selling legal pot grown locally by the dispensaries.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 07:35 AM
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37. Nothing wins at the ballot box 52-36.
At best that'd translate to 52-48, and I think it'll be tighter than that.
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 07:39 AM
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38. "Interestingly, the poll found Prop 19 support among African Americans to be very high"
A curious choice of words, there.

Okay, let us suppose it passes. I suspect the California Supreme Court might be hearing a case next year to strike it down as unconstitutional. But I don't think it will pass, because voter turnout in off-year elections is older and usually pretty low.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 10:29 AM
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40. Californian slackers will turn out to vote to Prop 19! It's in the stoner's interest nt
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 10:30 AM
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41. It's going to pass in the City of Detroit, too.
Next, Michigan.
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