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cheneyschernobyl Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:04 PM
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Doomsday Shelters Making a Comeback
"Jason Hodge, father of four children from Barstow, Calif., says he's "not paranoid" but he is concerned, and that's why he bought space in what might be labeled a doomsday shelter.

Hodge bought into the first of a proposed nationwide group of 20 fortified, underground shelters — the Vivos shelter network — that are intended to protect those inside for up to a year from catastrophes such as a nuclear attack, killer asteroids or tsunamis, according to the project's developers.

"It's an investment in life," says Hodge, a Teamsters union representative. "I want to make sure I have a place I can take me and my family if that worst-case scenario were to happen."

There are signs that underground shelters, almost-forgotten relics of the Cold War era, are making a comeback."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-07-28-doomsday28_ST_N.htm?se=yahoorefer



This sounds like right-wing lunatics in action to me.

:crazy: :eyes:
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:08 PM
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1. This is a fascinating subject. I was worried I was a hoarder, and I am NOT right wing at all
But I have been storing food and water for years, not for fear of nuclear weapons but other threats.

I am as liberal as they come.

Interested in what others think.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:17 PM
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5. As one "suvrivalist" put it..
... "you folks have to be right every day. I only have to be right once".

I don't have a "bomb shelter", but I do have food, water, basic first aid, etc, etc, etc stored and I always will.
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:19 PM
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6. Thanks for replying. I was worried I was a lunatic or something. NT
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 03:22 PM
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20. In the event of a disaster
It's a good idea to have three days' worth of food, fresh water and other supplies on hand. That can leave you free to help other people in the area, or at least not need the immediate assistance of first responders, who will have enough to do.

However, if you're thinking that your stockpile will enable you to to come out unscathed on the other side of something that is the subject of movies like "The Road", then you're probably kidding yourself. But I count that as a pretty remote possibility anyway, so the "hoarding" is mostly harmless. Don't freak yourself out over it.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 03:28 PM
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21. what i learned from katrina is you won't be able to get to that crap you hoarded
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 03:29 PM by pitohui
nor will you be likely to get to that particular shelter, you end up where you end up

i don't think you have to be right wing or left wing to be concerned abt survival and to want to survice, as i too used to store food/water for many years, but what i learned is pretty much most of that is a waste of time and energy, because in a real disruption you prob. can't use more than you can carry

i had lots of plans to "shelter in place" that came to nothing because i was forced to evacuate, something at my location (15 ft above sea level) i felt couldn't have been foreseen, for longer than i ever could have foreseen

what you heard from people over and over again is, "i thought we'd be gone three days"

i don't believe storing/hoarding/trying to protect yourself is a mental problem or anything to worry about, i just think it's ineffective

you can't live your life within minutes of the "shelter," in a real civil disaster, maybe you can't get to the shelter or where your stuff is stored, you may have to be fast on your feet

nowadays i stick w. the recommend to have a 72 hr supply, because i can carry that, much above that, no use worrying about it, i may not even be anywhere near where i'd store the stuff anyways

as for needed medicines, have it and your script w. you pretty much at all times if you think a disaster may be coming

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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:11 PM
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2. Read the book Swain Song-
It gives really good insight into these kind of people.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:12 PM
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3. Happens every time a Democrat is President
Also, we see a rise in local/regional militias. Happened under Clinton as well.
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tinymontgomery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:13 PM
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4. When I was growing up one of my friends
had a bomb shelter in his back yard. We used to go down there and hang out doing what teenagers did in the late 60's and early 70".
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:20 PM
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7. If selling "Underground" shelters to people worried about
Tsunamis, I recommend advertising at FR or on Becks' show.
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raouldukelives Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:21 PM
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8. Great idea
When you hear on the news the nuclear attack is coming just load up the car, hop on the freeway and drive comfortably to your shelter a couple hundred miles away. What could go wrong?
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 07:34 PM
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9. How do we convince these people that they had better get in these shelters?
Maybe before the fall elections?
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cheneyschernobyl Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 08:05 PM
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10. You owe me a new keyboard!
:spray:
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 09:03 PM
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11. Hey, not my fault. Didn't they warn you to keep liquids away from the
computer? If not, "don't have liquids close to your computer, they could spill and cause electrical shock or damage to your keyboard". Then again, who am I to speak!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 09:12 PM
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13. I've spilled just about every type of consumable liquid on
my keyboard and after ten years it's still working just fine. There's also pulverized pet bird pellets inside the keyboard. I unplug, rinse it out with cold water, then dry it in front of a fan. It's never failed me.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 09:25 PM
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15. Or it could have caused "The Pepsi Syndrome"
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 09:07 PM
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12. Give them a reason to head for their shelters
Once they're all holed up, lock the exits from the outside. Problem solved.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 09:15 PM
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14. Fart into the air intake.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 09:30 PM
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16. Don't they know the zombie invasion will *come* from underground?
They'll be the first to go, trapped in their underground bunkers, with nowhere to run, as wave after wave of zombie shock troops emerge from their walls and drain pipes.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 10:49 PM
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17. Do they have one that will work for global warming? n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 10:51 PM
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18. Ackety. I would rather die than live underground!
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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 03:09 PM
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19. Bingo...
The same type of people who promoted and/or trembled in their beds about the Red Scare are simply reacting to today's fear du jour.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 03:28 PM
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22. Well, there goes that "Home of the Brave" conceit.
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