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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 01:43 AM
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Laundry Detergent
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 01:44 AM by Contrary1
I went to the grocery yesterday and found a name brand detergent on sale for $17.96 ???

I don't care how "new", "condensed", or "money saving" it claims to be. Almost $18 bucks for soap?

With regards to last1standing, I post the following recipe. We have very hard well water here. Using this homemade detergent, our laundry ends up clean and fresh. I have been using this recipe for over 2 years now. I have saved a lot of money. Friends and family are using it also.

Give it a try. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. My hat's off to you, last1standing...brilliant!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3502520


3 Pints Water
1/3 Bar Fels Naptha Soap, Grated
1/2 Cup Washing Soda
1/2 Cup Borax
2 Gallon Bucket
1 Quart Hot Water
Cold Water

Dissolve Fels Naptha in 3 pints of water over low heat. Add washing soda & Borax. Stir until thickened, and remove from heat. Add 1 Quart Hot Water to 2 Gallon Bucket. Add soap mixture, and mix well. Fill bucket with cold water, and mix well. Set aside for 24 hours, or until mixture thickens. Use 1/2 cup of mixture per load.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 01:55 AM
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1. I usually get mine at Big Lots or the drugstore
for at least a fourth of that price. I'm sure the recipe will be handy for many ... THANKS!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 03:45 PM
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42. how does it work for high efficiency washers? I have to watch what
i put in mine.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:30 PM
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47. That I don't know because my machine is like 20 years old
but the detergent is name brand like cheer etc. It just depends on what Big Lots has at the time since they buy overstocks.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 02:09 AM
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2. Where do you get washing soda?
I looked it up and realize what it is, but is there a nationwide/well-known chain that carries it?
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willing dwarf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 02:29 AM
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4. Arm and Hammer makes washing soda
It's in a big yellow box, usually they put it in our grocery store near the Borax (Hundred Mule Team). You can also get it at the hardware store.

Washing soda is great for boosting the expensive laundry soap too. It softens the water.-- Put a tablespoon in your laundry and you can reduce your detergent by 1/3. (Plus I've been reading that we all use too much detergent anyway.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 03:03 AM
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5. It's available in the detergent aisle of most supermarkets.
It should be on the top shelf near the Fels Naptha soap bars.

I had the same question about 2 years ago when I found this recipe for laundry detergent.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:37 AM
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15. I'm wondering if anyone knows how the concentration would be for HE with a front loader
I rarely use more than a tsp of detergent though, and when I first got front loaders, I didn't use any because there was so much stored in my clothes.
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willing dwarf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 11:08 AM
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36. Mines an HE Front loader
It doesn't need much. Just two tablespoons of the dry stuff. Not sure about liquid version.

(There, I've squandered my 1000'th post on laundry detergent, rather than some long soliloquy. Doesn't that figure. I think lofty thoughts, write screeds which no one can bear to read and then when I finally hit the big 1000, let it go on suds... Such is life I suppose!)
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 02:57 PM
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40. Heh...
Such *is* life, indeed. Welcome to 1000+ :hi:
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willing dwarf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 08:29 PM
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48. So true
and thanks! It only took me 5 years!
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 07:52 AM
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22. I think we use too much detergent too, most of us. I use a fraction of what is called for.

My water is real soft.

But even if your water isn't soft, if your clothes aren't really dirty, you certainly don't need much detergent.

I also put baking soda in every washload. About a handful.




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WCIL Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 10:20 AM
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33. At my grocery stores
the washing soda is in the detergent aisle with the borax. The Fels-Naptha is on the bottom shelf in the personal care aisle, with the soap.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:17 PM
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44. Costco sells A&H soda in 12 pound bags & Heinz white vinegar in 1.5 gallon jugs.
:thumbsup:

:D

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willing dwarf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 02:26 AM
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3. I've used a similar recipe but dry
I like the idea of liquifying it first and I'll give it a try.

One thing about it is that if you have sensitive skin, this can make your clothes a little rough. I can't use it on my own clothes, but I use it on my husband (who has the rough tough skin of a carpenter....)

I recommend this recipe though. It really does help you save money. The cost of those detergents is crazy!
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 03:36 AM
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6. I'm impressed he holds still for that.
I've tried scrubbing mine down with dry soap powder when I thought he needed it, but he just gets pissed off and escapes.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 03:48 AM
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8. Ha!
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willing dwarf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 08:34 PM
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49. You got me with that one!
So funny! :fistbump:
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 03:47 AM
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7. We bought a front load washer a couple years ago
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 03:47 AM by madokie
and in water savings and soap savings it'll pay for itself in a few more years. uses hardly any soap and the clothes come super clean. I've got this old dark colored tee shirt that I wear when I'm doing dirty work and when we first bought this front loader it was all stained up but now other than being ratty I could wear it to Sunday go meeting, its that clean now.
A few bucks up front to save a bunch of money every day. Thats how it works folks.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 03:52 AM
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9. Some of my laundry I do with no soap.
Not all of it, mind you. But most of my office work clothes just need the dust and dead skin rinsed out.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:58 AM
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17. Sears slashes the prices of all their HE laundry detergent right before Christmas every year
To make room for the holiday switchover I imagine? But it is usually anywhere from 25% to 50% off the normal price. I just go get about ten boxes for about ten bucks each instead of $20 each and it lasts us over a year until the next Christmas time sale.

Don
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 08:10 AM
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23. Great idea
I'll tell my wife about that, she's the boss anyway if you know what I mean. :hi:
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Ratty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 11:09 AM
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37. One of the things my mother taught me
Too much soap in the washer and clothes don't get clean. Seriously, you only need like one quarter of the soap recommended on the box.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:29 AM
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10. Thank for posting!
I usually just watch for the best deal and coupon like crazy. Between the Sunday paper and poking around online, you can come up with some savings. I agree that the prices are absurd, but there are "bargains" to be had with some shopping around.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:44 AM
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11. I use a variation on the recipe you have posted, but it works great.
I am chemically sensitive, and last spring I had a rash that would not go away. I knew it was tied to something I was using, and finally tried eliminating the expensive hypo-allergenic detergent I was using (and had been using for years).

Rash cleared up in about a half month. Been using it ever since. Great stuff.
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Paper Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:47 AM
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16. What are you now using? I have been using Sun liquid.
For years I have had itchy skin on my back and upper arms. It was a rash but only in spots. Pretty severe to the point that I would sometimes want to scream. Cortisone was my only relief. Could not find out what was causing it.

About as year ago, on a gamble, I bought a big container of 'Sun' Free & Clear Hypo Allergenic Detergent(made by Huish, Salt Lake City, UT) at the grocery store. After a few weeks of use, the rash was about 90% better.

It is also $4.99 for 117 fluid ounces. Far cheaper and does a great job on my clothes. I've converted many to this brand. They also offer detergents that are not Hypo-Allergenic.

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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:32 AM
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19. My recipe calls for a 1/1/1 ratio. Grate FN and dissolve in 6 pts.
Add washing soda, borax - remove from heat. Add 2 quarts hot water, stir. Add 2-3/4 gallon water. Cover for 24 hours. Makes 6 coffee cans, about a six month supply for 3-4 dollars.

I run into problems with hypo allergenic detergent when they either reformulate, or substitute. Stay with what works, but if you get a rash again, try either recipe.

Oh, and it is low suds.
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 08:57 AM
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26. I just bought a big jug of that.
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 08:58 AM by blueamy66
We'll see how it works.

I also cannot believe how expensive the big name laundry detergents are. I only buy Gain, my favorite, when I have a coupon and it's on sale....as a treat.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:02 AM
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12. It was probably HE concentrate
I have some of that. It was %15, but it will literally last me nine months or more. And, it is 100% natural.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:18 AM
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13. I buy laundry detergent for under $3 and it works fine for me.
Sorry, there's no way I will spend time making my own laundry detergent anymore than I would make my own clothes.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:35 AM
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14. For now, I hear you, but we would all do well to store these little ideas for future use
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 07:42 AM
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21. So when future use comes will there be a supply of Fels Naptha to accommodate everyone?
If we cannot somehow get laundry detergent, then likely the raw ingredients from which it is made will not be available either. At that time having laundry soap may be the least of our problems.

Between Y2K and the threat of societal collapse from peak oil I have enough information concerning what is now the quaintness and then necessity of self sufficiency. It's all well and fine until somebody exercising their Second Amendment rights comes to take it away from you.

For now I'll just enjoy buying what I need. For now, for me, it's enough to make my own meals from scratch or even cooking. That's al the "making" I want to do.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 08:12 AM
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24. I haven't seen any Fels Naptha around for years and years
It was always good for patching gas tanks, temporarily of course.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 09:04 AM
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28. I've heard of it, but then I haven't looked for it either. I'm sure it must be somewhere. n/t
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 10:44 AM
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35. Ha.
"It's all well and fine until somebody exercising their Second Amendment rights comes to take it away from you."

That's why the first thing that a govt does in a real catastrophe is confiscate civilians' guns. Witness Katrina.

The second amendment is a joke.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 11:35 AM
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38. When an emergency is declared the government can do pretty much what it likes during that time.
A lot of rights and freedoms get suspended.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 02:33 PM
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39. and yet the 2nd amendment is supposed to allow us to be prepared
for such an event.

I think we agree that in these times, the 2nd amendment is a joke.

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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:01 PM
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45. Better be careful or the gungeon will get you.
:bounce: :bounce: :nuke: :bounce: :bounce:
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:15 PM
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43. I don't understand why you posted that.
Nobody was calling you out specifically to say YOU should be making your own laundry soap.

The OP's point was that things many of us once took for granted like being able to afford laundry detergent are becoming a hardship for people because of the economy. Some of those things we can make cheaper, and better quality - like baking your own bread if you don't want HFCS and preservatives in it.

A lot of people are out of work or working part time because they can't get a full time job. Some of us who aren't in that position now may find ourselves in that boat in the future. If somebody's going to share a way to save a fair amount of money each month with people who may have a lot of extra time on their hands due to unemployment, why not just thank them? If it doesn't seem like a fair amount of money to you, that's fortunate for you.

For some, investing an hour to save $20 is a something to be thankful for. Most of us don't make $20 an hour. If we work minimum wage, by the time FICA and all that is withheld and transportation and child care costs are figured in, it's half a day's work or more just to earn the money to buy laundry soap for a month.

Your post sounds like you consider yourself above it all, with the implication being that you are somehow superior to those who are underemployed and struggling to make ends meet. That attitude can come off as arrogant and offensive to those who have less than you.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:28 AM
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18. Caution: Just a heads up. Check washing machine instructions because
machine manufacturers often advise not to use washing soda. Borax gets the OK but not the soda, don't ask me why.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:36 AM
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20. I have a mechanical machine. My dishwasher is electronic, that is
why I do not make my own DW powder. The new machines call for using a TBS or 1-1/2 TBS, so a large box lasts 6 months.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 08:17 AM
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25. Here's one, easier and cheaper...
Soapberry tree

Soap´ber`ry tree`
1. (Bot.) Any tree of the genus Sapindus, esp. Sapindus saponaria, the fleshy part of whose fruit is used instead of soap in washing linen; - also called soap tree.

The Soapberry Tree
http://newlifeonahomestead.com/2010/06/the-soapberry-tree/
Have you heard of Soap Nuts yet? I know some of you have. Soap Nuts are an all natural laundry detergent, which are actual berries from the Asian Soapberry Tree. They are the new big thing. Although I haven’t had a chance to try them yet, I’ve heard amazing things! From what I understand, you put three “nuts” in a small cloth bag and throw it into your wash in the place of detergents. They are supposed to last through three loads before they need to be replaced.

(I have used them, they work very well)
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 09:03 AM
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27. I usually buy a generic brand and pre-dilute it in a larger bottle with water.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 09:07 AM
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29. Got you beat....
Paper clothing + eraser = clean clothing, no detergent, no water.



works for me...

:7




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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 10:01 AM
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32. lol...you jest, but I remember paper dresses long ago.
:D
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dembotoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 09:39 AM
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30. get the big honking heavy tub at costco--seems to last forever
or buy what is on sale at the right store.

key seems to be the number of loads the container says you can get out of it.
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 09:50 AM
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31. I paid 3.99 for a 32 ounce HE bottle of ALL. 32 loads per bottle.
I didn't have a coupon this time.

HOWEVER: If I did not have an HE machine I would totally give your recipe a shot. I love seeing stuff like this posted :)
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 10:24 AM
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34. A lot of soap recipes here - and other stuff too
White vinegar is the best cleaner around, btw.

http://tipnut.com/10-homemade-laundry-soap-detergent-recipes/

There are good comments below. I've been making a dry mix for a while - since I only do about two loads a week I was worried the liquid would get yucky.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 02:59 PM
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41. wow. thanks for the recipe.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:21 PM
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46. I'm so tough, I eat detergent for breakfast.
Without milk.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-10 01:41 PM
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50. Inspired by this thread, I'm making this today. My actual costs:
Edited on Sun Aug-01-10 02:32 PM by noamnety
Initial investment: $8.08

Fels Naptha: $1.29 (found it at Ace Hardware)
Borax: $4 (found at Meijers)
Washing Soda: $2.79 (found at Meijers)


Per gallon cost: $0.42

1/6 bar Fels Naptha: $0.215
1/38 box borax (quarter cup): $0.105
1/27.5 box washing soda (quarter cup): $0.10


Per load cost: just over a penny

32 half cups in a gallon, .42/32= $0.013

Tip: The fels naptha was soft enough it went through the grating disk of my food processor just like a block of cheddar cheese. I grated the whole bar and used 1 1/2 cups each of the borax and soda to make a super concentrate. One sixth of that and enough water to fill my gallon jug makes the right strength. The concentrate should last for 192 loads - well over a year, and virtually no work other than washing a food processor and hitting it with the stick blender to mix well.
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