U.S. Rep. Carney on leaks: 'It's treason'

U.S. Rep. Chris Carney said whoever leaked classified military reports accusing Pakistan's spy service of colluding with the Afghan insurgency endangered the United States "far more than they understand."

The leaks, made public on the website WikiLeaks on Sunday, give the nation's enemies and potential enemies insight into its wartime behavior, he said.

"They have committed treason in my eyes," said Carney, D-Dimock Township, a Navy Reserve commander.

"You never want that (information) to fall in the hands of your enemies. And the thing is you never know who your enemy is going to be at any given time," he said.

more: http://citizensvoice.com/news/u-s-rep-carney-on-leaks-it-s-treason-1.904479

Fuck him.

I like that Wiki likes to "crush the bastards," but there has to be discretion. This continues to feel wrong to me at this stage of human evolution. These people put a lot of innocent folks at unnecessary risk. Yes, I already FUCKING KNOW the war did, and these guys made it worse.

My point is until humans stop considering their strategic status advantages as something desirable, there will be wars. So, basically, as long as there exist capitalism and a lack of love and brotherhood for all humankind.

overly influence your current decision.

In other words, just because you have taken a wrong turn, you are not committed to staying on that wrong road. It is often/usually better to reverse course and correct the problem instead of blindly plunging along in the same (wrong) direction.

In this case, just because we are already there should not prevent us from getting the fuck out as soon as possible. At this point, the (lack of) wisdom of the decision that drove the US into Afghanistan is irrelevant. Just get out.

Now.

worships at the altar of war.

Just because you have a "D" after your name doesn't mean a thing when you spout reich-wing bullshit like this.

To quote the previous VP - "Go fuck yourself."

Outting a NOC agent was treason.

Leaking records that show a war is based on lies is patriotism.

is not treason, Dimbulb. It's a public service.

Besides, it only confirmed what's been whispered and even known but not widely reported for many years.

Get a grip, idiot.

(I really hate it when Democrats embarrass themselves this way)

What the Bushistas did was treason. The Wikileaker is a hero.

WASHINGTON, D.C. — An ongoing Pentagon review of the massive flood of secret documents made public by the WikiLeaks website has so far found no evidence that the disclosure harmed U.S. national security or endangered American troops in the field, a Pentagon official told NBC News on Monday.

The initial Pentagon assessment is far less dramatic than initial statements from the Obama White House Sunday night after three major news organizations – The New York Times, the Guardian and Der Spiegel — published what was touted as an unprecedented “secret archive” of classified military documents relating to the war in Afghanistan. The documents appear to show, among other matters, close collaboration between elements of the Pakistani intelligence service and the Taliban — an awkward issue that U.S. intelligence officials have strenuously complained about for some time but are loath to talk about publicly.

The news organizations said they received the documents from WikiLeaks, a controversial website that specializes in soliciting and publishing sensitive government documents. No sooner did the stories appear this weekend than U.S. National Security Adviser James Jones “strongly” condemned the WikiLeaks disclosure, saying that the trove of classified documents “could put the lives of American and our partners at risk and threaten our national security.”

But David Lapan, deputy assistant secretary of defense for media operations, told NBC News on Monday that a preliminary review by a Pentagon “assessment” team has so far not identified any documents whose release could damage national security. Moreover, he said, none of the documents reviewed so far carries a classification level above “secret” — the lowest category of intelligence material in terms of sensitivity.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38417666


The spin is threatening to make me dizzy, especially when items like the following don't seem to matter to those suddenly so concerned about our people over there, who shouldn't have been there in the first place:



http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-librar...

KABUL: Afghan President Hamid Karzai said Monday that Nato troops fired a rocket that killed “52 innocent civilians” in southern Afghanistan.

An investigation by the National Directorate of Security found that a house in Helmand province's Sangin district was hit on Friday “by a rocket launched by Nato/ISAF troops, leaving 52 civilians dead, including women and children,”a statement from Karzai's office said.

“The president condoled via phone with the mourning families and called on Nato troops to put into practice every possible measure to avoid harming civilians during military operations,” it said. -AFP



Hands off my Social Security!
Hands off Latin America!





Just my dos centavos


robdogbucky

I mean, the article you cite essentially says that the Pentagon is smarter than the Obama White House: "The initial Pentagon assessment is far less dramatic than initial statements from the Obama White House Sunday night."

You'd have to assume that if the "Obama White House" manages to squeak out a statement (ah! metonymy!) it would be approved by Obama himself.

Most people here would assume that the Obama White House is smarter than "these folks." By simple transitivity, if the Pentagon is smarter than the Obama White House, and the Obama White House is smarter than "these folk," then the Pentagon is smarter than these folk.

Of course, that's just the initial assessment. There are a lot of documents to review, and the harm might not be in what any single document says but what a series of documents taken together entail. Similarly, the harm might not be what a document says to an American reviewer but what an Afghan gets out of the same document.

There's always the "Plame" business, though. Plame's outing didn't harm any American soldier or spy. But the claim is that a series of informants was rolled up as a result and that hurt American intelligence efforts, and that hurt Americans or at least American interests. The initial assessment of the Wikileaks dump won't include that Informant X, reliably informing us of attacks around village Y, stopped informing after he was killed (not an American solider!)and a week later 10 Americans were killed by an ambush at village Y. "Opportunity costs" and "negative effects" are hard to quantify and defend.

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