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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 11:57 AM
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Is the British National Party far left or far right?
Calling the BNP 'far Left' is comforting but absurd

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100048699/calling-the-bnp-far-left-is-comforting-but-absurd/

Perhaps the most significant political moment of my youth came in 1991 with the fall of the Soviet Union and the end of the short 20th century and its ideological battles. But you know how the BBC repeatedly described these diehard Communists in their reports? As the “Right-wingers”. That’s right – in the BBC worldview, people supporting the Soviet Union were “Right-wing”, while their opponents, the guys waving Russian tricolours and carrying icons of Tsar Nicholas II and calling for free-market capitalism were, what, the Lefties?

Dan is also correct to point out that in terms of organisation the fascist parties of the 1920s often emerged out of socialist movements, Mussolini originally being a Left-wing journalist before seizing the state. (There must be some special circle of Hell reserved for Left-wing journalists, ideally one in which they actually have to live in the sort of society they espouse.) But that was a practical issue, since only socialists had mass movements. The political philosophy of fascism, Nazism, neo-fascism and fascist-lite groups such as the British National Party stems not from socialism but from the ultra-conservative philosophy of Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821) and other opponents of the French Revolution.

This was a political philosophy based on rigid hierarchy, authoritarianism, ultra-nationalism and counter-enlightenment conservatism. This extreme wing of conservatism opposed not just revolution and socialism but also novelties that mainstream conservatives came to accept, such as religious tolerance, women’s emancipation, the widening of the franchise and, significantly, free trade and laissez-faire capitalism.

To measure the Left-Right spectrum only according to one’s view of the free market is absurd: capitalism flourishes best in the centre and centre-Right of the political spectrum (or, if you prefer the clock analogy, around 6 or 7 o’clock, the home of classical liberalism); at both extremes it withers, since both socialists and reactionaries dislike the free market, but for different reasons.

After all, why should ultra-conservatives like a system that brings urbanisation and with it the mingling or different races and religions, the rise of wealthy liberal bourgeoisie, social democrat politics and sexual licence? This was what disgusted the young Adolf Hitler when he lived in Vienna, and turned him towards fascism. Hitler was not, despite what Oliver Stone and a few ageing Soviets might believe, a tool of capitalism. Like all extreme Right-wingers, he despised capitalists, though he was happy to work with them for a time. Free-market capitalism eventually dies in fascist states because it cannot function without the rule of law and property rights.

The BNP are not the Nazi party, by any means, and they should not be equated morally with them, but they come from the milder end of the same political tradition, that of de Maistre. The far Right, in other words.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 12:00 PM
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1. what exactly is the difference between far poles?
both of them require enforcement of their extremes, against the middle. There are ultra conservatives who hold hands with ultra liberals on the issue of red light cameras, both for and against.

:think:

Yep. Still blurry.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 12:02 PM
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2. Political Compass has them centrist/authoritarian
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 12:03 PM
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3. "If X is evil, X must be from the Left."
That mindset, in an of itself, flags its wearer as an extremist. No further analysis necessary.
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 12:08 PM
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4. The BNP is a perverted version of anything it is said to stand for
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 12:10 PM by Wash. state Desk Jet
It's base is fear ,smear and hate mongering.And it's top man is a crook. Which is why he was snubbed . No tea for him at the garden party.And his invite was revoked.

It is all about fear and mass immigration in the UK.Jobs,-high tax's.
All the places where the fire burns down below in the voting populous.So whats a seat or two ?
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