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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:05 PM
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Tweety is swearing up and down that Brietbart DID NOT present an edited tape...
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 04:08 PM by Subdivisions
And this is supposed to be a journalist?

He is literally arguing with Joan Walsh and Howard Dean that Breitbart did not post an edited video of Shirley Sherrod on his site, which started the whole controversy.

What a fucking dick.

The longer he talks the worse it gets! He's acting as if he just found out about before airtime!!!

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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:06 PM
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1. I feel like yelling at the tv, but he wouldn't hear me anyway.
;)
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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:23 PM
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31. CHRIS MATTHEWS just showed his total ignorance.
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 04:24 PM by trueblue2007
howard dean and Joan Walsh were RIGHT ON and chris matthews is an idiot
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:18 AM
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71. He is often
uninformed, misinformed or both. Compared to Rachel and Keith he looks woefully unprepared on his program.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 01:10 PM
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80. Think Matthews has long been fake liberal -- and when he has to move to the liberal side
it galls him -- so he ends up trying to deny reality!

Who would ever trust Matthews?

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GOPNotForMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:07 PM
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2. Haha Joan Walsh and Howard Dean are tag-teaming Tweety.
And he still refuses to give in.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:08 PM
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3. i'm watching with my jaw on the fucking floor...he's disputing joan walsh & howard dean
it shows how totally uninformed chris matthews is.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:09 PM
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6. LOOK AT HIM!!! He has no idea what they're talking about! Did he have a fucking stroke??? n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:14 PM
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15. Tweety does not do his homework
He will always get caught.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:53 PM
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41. Tweety is not paying attention to reality or the facts
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 04:54 PM by SpiralHawk
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:51 PM
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61. Great graphic
:hi:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 07:16 PM
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65. You can get a pic of Fonzie jumping the original shark if you search
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 07:18 PM by SpiralHawk
Whatever. Tweety was either lying big time, or totally lameass on having done the research to talk about Brietbart's deliberately deceptive Republicon divide & conquer propaganda -- dishonest and unChristian.

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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:08 PM
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4. Isn't the fact that it WAS edited what caused the problem in the first place?
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 04:09 PM by truebrit71
What an idiot...
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:09 PM
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5. Sadly He's Right...
and hopefully it'll be up to a judge and jury to decide this question. This is the plausible denaibility Slimebart uses. He personally claims he didn't edit the tape but that it was given to him. The dude is slick and thinks this is the way to weasel out of the heat to slime again. My hopes are that Ms. Sherrod's laywers go after his funding...then push for names as to how he got the tape. But he himself did not do the doctoring...or so he claims.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:43 PM
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51. I don't think she is sueing him for editing the tape but for showing it in edited form.
He put it out there and has to take respnsibility for it, whether he actually did the editing or not.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:06 PM
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56. More Parsing...
The blessing and the downside of our legal system. The question here is who edited the video...the person who had the intent to either slander Mrs. Sherrod or had other motives. Since Slimebart only posted it as a link on his website, he wasn't the one who was the root cause of the possible slander. It'd be similar to someone posting a video on C & L that was doctored but the site got a hold of it and ran with it...they were only playing "telephone"...there's no law that requires a website or news organization to check out the validity or source of a news item...one would hope these organizations would have their own standards to prevent this from happening. They didn't and Slimebart knows how to play the media and the system. Shameful.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:12 PM
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58. No I believe you are wrong
It really does not matter who edited the tape. If no one sees it there is no harm. what matters is how it is distributed. Who puts the information out for public viewing is the one that is liable. There is an obligation to make sure what you publicize is not libelous.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 07:04 PM
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63. The Editor Has The Intent...
He/she/it was the one who found the video and it was their intentions to do damage. Now if it's Slimebart who did that, then we've got a case.

One would hope a website or broadcaster or newspaper would have the obligation to not publicize something libelous, but we see time and again that's not the case. For example O'Keefe (another Slimebart stooge) is the one holding the bag in the ACORN lawsuits...Slimebart hasn't been touched.

The main question is who put out the information...Slimebart will say he didn't...just "passed it along".
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 01:09 PM
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78. "reckless disregard for the truth"
Edited on Fri Jul-30-10 01:10 PM by spooky3
I'm not a lawyer, but I believe Breitbart's obligations are greater than you say, particularly given his "occupation." Even if he didn't edit it himself, he may have had an obligation to aggressively investigate whether the tape had been edited and if so, whether it then misrepresented the truth, before releasing it.

see, for example:

http://www.questia.com/googleScholar.qst?docId=5001236274
http://research.lawyers.com/glossary/reckless-disregard-of-the-truth.html

There are many more sites discussing "reckless disregard for the truth" and how it fits into legal cases.

And, here was a case where even the full truth was considered libelous because it was released with "actual malice":

http://www.rcfp.org/newsitems/index.php?i=9958

My hunch is that Sherrod has had some serious conversations with attorneys who are willing to take the case on contingency and are betting that they will win, or that they have a strong enough case to get her a tidy settlement.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 01:17 PM
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81. It All Boils Down To The Judge...
As you show, the definitions here are vague as it tip toes around the first ammendment. "Actual Malice" is quite a term...and it wasn't Slimebart's intention to have Mrs. Sherrod fired (at least overtly...O'Reilly was the one who screetch it and why he also has backtracked) and now that she's been offered the job back and at what could be a promotion or increase in pay, the malice kinda loses a lot of punch. What's left is "pain and suffering"...and the definition of that is open to a lot of conjecture.

I'm certain your hunch is spot on...and my hopes are they're a lot smarter and sharper than I am and the shark lawyers I'm certain Slimebart's puppetmasters will be providing him.

Even if Mrs. Sherrod loses the case, she and her attorneys could use it to expose and embarass the slime enterprise that Slimebart is an operative for. Let's find out who was the source of the tape, who pays the bills...these things can come forward and hopefully discredit this shitstain and make his name toxic...even for Faux to be seen associating with. And if Mrs. Sherrod can get a cash settlement (out of court) so much the better.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 01:28 PM
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82. to the judge and also to the prior cases establishing precedent
I'm not sure it will ever go to a judge.

I am assuming that some things that are unclear to us laypersons may have been clarified in prior cases, that the attorneys she's talking with know much more, and that they think she can meet hurdles, at least well enough to convince Breitbart to settle.

I agree with you that if it did go to court, she may have trouble showing actual damages (again, as a non-attorney not familiar with all the relevant cases). The damage to her reputation may have been repaired by the apologies she received from other parties and to positive media attention once the story was straightened out.

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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 07:20 PM
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66. It came from his buddy, O'Connor, who had the entire tape. Wiggle, Wiggle, O'Connor you're toast.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 02:07 PM
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83. Well, not to be rude, but Not-So-Bright-Bart is anything but
smart, or slick. There is enough material on the Internet, and god knows what we don't get to see, showing him to be a complete buffoon making a drunken fool of himself over and over again.

Tweety was NOT right. Breitbart DID put an edited tape on his blog. He has refused so far to say where he got it. Hopefully the discovery phase will force him to reveal that.

All these facts have been available since the beginning. Tweety is making himself look like notsobrightbart himself, short on facts, big on hyperbole.
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:10 PM
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7. I would guess that they are arguing the difference between edit
and excerpt.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:10 PM
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8. How that shitwad is still on television is beyond me
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:24 PM
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32. Ha! Shitwad.
:rofl:
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:11 PM
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9. Tweethead -- did ya WATCH both tapes?
JFC -- what passes for "journalism" these days...

:eyes:
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:12 PM
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12. Now he's taking us BACK TO THE TAPE to prove his point!!! WTF??? n/t
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:12 PM
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10. Right, just muted him. Thank goodness for joan w. and Howard Dean.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:12 PM
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11. Matthews Is So Misinformed - How Does A Guy Like This Get His Own Program?.....
I could understand it if he was on the Fox Network and being misinformed or misinforming. He is arguing with Walsh and Dean and he doesn't even bother to say that he'll look into it. He is such an idiot.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:13 PM
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13. now matthews is giving Obama shit for not calling out faux.
i can hear him if Obama had called out the faux idiots

fuck him. what a waste of pixels
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:39 PM
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60. You--and all of MSNBC--should have called out Faux YOURSELF, Tweety!
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 06:48 PM by rocktivity
Even Keith admitted that his own network was wrong to run with the Sherrod story without considering the source.

:headbang:
rocktivity
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:14 PM
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14. I often wonder if some of this isn't an act. I mean we are discussing
him, albeit negatively, but we do talk about him a lot...LOL. Joan Walsh and Howard Dean are always prepared and right on the money, he has to know this. I'm thinking this is purposely done to create a stir, i.e. discussion about his show...
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:19 PM
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22. You nailed it...Tweety runs hot and cold...keeps himself in the news
that way...he's using us...I refuse to watch him and be a party to his little game.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:22 PM
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28. Me neither. I used to rush home from work to catch his show, now I
don't put MSNBC on till my evening shows are over and catch KO on the re-run. Station has gone to the dogs.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:51 PM
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39. It's one big game to people like Tweety...
...life and death issues are just a game...he's reprehensible.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:15 PM
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16. And he keeps DIGGING HIS HEELS IN FURTHER!
he refuses to listen to two people. And now he's going after Dean AND Joan!
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:16 PM
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17. WTF hell is Tweety DOING??? He just lied - LIED and put up yet another edited tape!!! n/t
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:17 PM
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20. and he's insisting he's got the FACTS. He's like Rove with *the* math
OMG I want to hit him right now
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:20 PM
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26. I hope his producer straightens his ass out during the break
Make him apologize on air.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:16 PM
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18. Chris Matthews proves that this country is about WHO you know, not WHAT you know
What are Chris Matthews qualifications? Intelligence, charm, and the ability to speak without slobbering are not amongst them. So why does this idiot have a TV show, and who in god's name watches it?
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:18 PM
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21. He just changed the whole history of this story. I swear to God! Arrrghhh! THAT VIDEO
HE JUST SHOW WAS NOT THE VIDEO ON BRIETBART'S SITE OR FOX NEWS!!!

This is an outrage!

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:20 PM
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25. i'm trying to follow his reasoning...i can't.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:22 PM
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29. The very last seconds of the video he just showed were edited out of the
original breitbart/fox news video of Sherrod. This is fucking bullshit!

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:17 PM
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19. and he keeps trying to pick a fight with Howard Dean
the putz!!
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:20 PM
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23. Gov Dean was completely taken aback by this fabrication being created in
front of his eyes.

I'm beside myself. I can't believe what I just saw.

Anyone have a line to Howard Dean? I'd like to hear what he thinks of this.

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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:28 PM
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33. He looked good and mad to me!
Don't know him at all, but he looked very unhappy with what Tweety was throwing at him. Matthews looked a little deranged at being challenged. He clearly wasn't having any of it. I think his staffers just accommodated him with that tape business. Can't make the boss madder than he already is at being challenged...
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:32 PM
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37. He was about to come out of his chair. I hope he says something... n/t
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:56 PM
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43. This is about Tweety's ego and ONLY about Tweety's ego.
I'm sure his staff is all about "Yes, sir, Mr. Matthews. Right away, Mr. Matthews. Got the tape you wanted, Mr. Matthews."

The truth doesn't matter...can't make the boss unhappy, right?
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:20 PM
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24. Seriously....how do I contact that dipshit? He needs to correct the record
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:28 PM
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34. When Somebody At MSNBC Sets Tweety Right He Owes A Public Apology To Walsh & Dean......
for challenging them on this - when they were right all along.

It's almost like this was being done on purpose to discredit Sherrod again. She should bring Tweety into her lawsuit against Breitbart and Fox now.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 07:25 PM
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68. You need to send him lots of mail that says you can't watch him lie in your face anymore
and you will avoid his show on MSNBC to avoid being lied to.

in the strongest possible terms you need to get him the message that he's lying and deceiving you, this guy who likes to think he has credibility to get other people to come clean and tell the truth.

you call him a liar often enough it will piss him off. but if he's talking about the Brietbart video and then showing a less edited version then he is lying to you and you've got to embarass the dude about it.

and lying and deceitful is something he likes to accuse other people of --it will rankle him to be called it himself.
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:21 PM
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27. Tweety's brain fell out of his mouth long ago.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:22 PM
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30. Are any videos we see during campaigns 'edited'? Do we see the full ones in commercials?
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 04:24 PM by The Straight Story
if one means by edited that you don't show the whole video - then show me a politician who puts out commercials with the full videos.

Folks on both sides select the worst they can and only show that. Often, important information is left out.

Example? One I remember from long ago:

X is wanting to cut funds for school lunch.

The reality was - they wanted to increase it, but Y asked for an increase of 20% and X only thought it should be 10%. It was not cutting the budget.

I have seen this many times over, from both sides.
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:30 PM
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46. Of course we don't see "full" videos in partisan commercials!
We're not talking about partisan commercials here, but alleged "news" stories.
Those who present the "news" to us have an obligation to present a complete picture with an accurate summation of a story. Breitbart is a propagandist, not a newsman. I've know that for years. What confuses me is that apparently neither the White House or anybody in the Obama Administration knew how totally twisted anything that comes from Breitbart must be, and abandoned Ms. Sherrod without demanding that the whole story be seen...and told.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:29 PM
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35. glad to see I'm not the only one
spitting nails..couldn't believe how obstinate he was.."we don't make mistakes here"..oh heavens..he just made a loo loo
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Scruffy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:31 PM
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36. Just another member of the 5-50 club
5 cent mind-fifty dollar haircut. It's no wonder to me that the American public is so misinformed with these same old hacks on day after day. They are all rich Washington insiders with no clue about the rest of us. They spend more time on make up than anything else.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:33 PM
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38. Matthews is a loud mouthed slobbering fool. nt
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:53 PM
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40. He was so wrong and then to keep on and on claiming he's right
was just IDIOCY!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 04:54 PM
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42. He's pulling video from Breitbart TODAY as evidence that the original
wasn't edited?
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:00 PM
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44. Tweety just doesn't want to admit he was conned and overreacted like nearly everyone in the media.
It's a sad day when Bill O'Reilly apologized for overreacting to an EDITED tape, and Tweety won't.

Yes, Tweety, it was the media that did this. You are part of the media. You overreacted. You didn't take time to verify the tape. You didn't take time to make sure it wasn't edited.

You should publicly apologize.


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DolomiteKick Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:27 PM
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45. Chris Matthews was right
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 05:29 PM by DolomiteKick
Matthews was absolutely right in what he said. The video he showed is the one that Breitbart originally released. The redeeming part at the end was present. I remember listening to it when the story first broke and wondering what the problem was, I thought it was a good moral story.

Doubting myself, I checked YouTube for an early posting of the video. Here is one that was put up on the 18th by some right-winger. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_xCeItxbQY The part in question starts at about 1:40. I don't watch Fox so I don't know if Fox cut off the part at the end as Howard Dean was asserting but the video on Breitbart clearly did include it and that is all Matthews was insisting on.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:00 PM
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54. This is NOT the video Matthews showed on his program tonight.
There was no leading commentary in the version he aired.

Welcome. :hi:
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:31 PM
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47. Even Bill O'Reilly admitted he was wrong ...

Bill O'Reilly apologizes to Shirley Sherrod for 'not doing my homework'
July 21, 2010 | 6:46 pm

Fox News host Bill O’Reilly offered a rare mea culpa Wednesday, apologizing for airing a controversial tape of a speech given by a black U.S. Dept. of Agriculture official that was edited to make it appear she was racist.

Shirley Sherrod was forced to resign Monday after conservative activist Andrew Breitbart posted a video clip of Sherrod’s speech at an NAACP dinner on his website BigGovernment.com in which she appeared to say that she had once discriminated against a white farmer. The edited clip did not include the portion of the speech in which Sherrod said the episode had taught her the importance of overcoming personal prejudices.

The video sparked a conflagration in the blogosphere and cable news that at first outraced the facts. O’Reilly was the first on cable to air the video, calling for Sherrod’s resignation Monday night. (By the time his taped show aired, she in fact had already resigned, a fact Fox News noted on the screen.)

On Wednesday, he said he should have gotten the full story first. “I owe Ms. Sherrod an apology for not doing my homework, for not putting her remarks into the proper context,” he said on "The O'Reilly Factor," adding that his own words had been taken out of context by critics in the past. “I well understand the need for honest reporting.”
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/07/bill-oreilly-apologizes-to-shirley-sherrod-for-not-doing-my-homework.html


I find O'Reilly a pompous blowhard with an enormous ego. Years and years ago he could give a informative interview and I found his show interesting. Recently, he has written a few popular books and his head has ballooned up to the size of a basketball.

Still he had enough intelligence and maturity to admit when he was wrong on the Shirley Sherrod incident.

I wasn't watching Tweety so my comments may be unfair. Unless Tweety has more info and insight into the story than we realize, he should man up and admit he screwed up. He's not alone, just another example of the 24/7 news cycle that has a shoot first, ask questions later.
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:34 PM
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48. I wonder...
If he is trying to be pedantic about the difference between posting (hosting) the video versus providing a link to the video on a third-party site? Matthews is annoying enough to get caught up in semantics like that.

All the videos here at DU in the Political Videos section are technically not on DU, but links to youtube.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:36 PM
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49. Not edited in the sense that it wasn't doctored but it's a distinction w/o a difference in this case
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:42 PM
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50. After a commercial, Matthews came back on and said something akin to
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 06:41 PM by seafan
"...well, I learned something..." (implying, 'I was wrong, but not gonna admit it, and just gonna motor on.'


Did anyone else catch that? No wonder the mad rush to retape the "rerun" show.


Honestly, I don't know how this cluelessness gets paid so highly.



Digby caught most of the exchange.


I wish I could find that advertisement Matthews made recently about Hardball, and how he 'likes to catch people in lies'.


Joan Walsh tweet
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:44 PM
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52. Well that's Matthews for ya.
A dipshit tried and true.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:53 PM
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53. I'll just stick with TCM, thanks...
There's a reason I avoid MSNBC.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:05 PM
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55. kicking for rebroadcast Uh Oh... 2nd edition
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 06:06 PM by Motown_Johnny
so they are making a new segment to clean up his mess?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:08 PM
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57. this is a new show, not a re-broadcast....tweety doing the famous 180
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 06:13 PM by spanone
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:31 PM
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59. "We are all neocons now!" -CM nt
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:57 PM
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62. Did he not see John Stewarts presentation on this??
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 07:10 PM
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64. wait till Jon Stewart gets a hold of this one. Not edited tape, new tape entirely
gonna be a good one

Editing his show due to a segment on edited tape


the irony is almost overwhelming
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:46 AM
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73. Don't expect a public apology either
Howie Dean should be laughing.
I remember watching how impressed Tweety was with Obama's knowledge of current events and figured that it was because Tweety never does his homework.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:12 AM
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75. he went after dean another time on health care. unreasonably and oddly. i think
he has an issue with dean
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 07:21 PM
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67. I think the beltway elites fear Stewart more than Morlock. nt
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:07 AM
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69. Did you notice Chris did some editing of his own?
Here's the original video from Breibart's website. Chris did not show it in it's entirety

http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2010/07/19/video-proof-the-naacp-awards-racism2010/
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:14 AM
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70. Tweety, a Reagan Democrat. nt
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Ghost of Tom Joad Donating Member (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:32 AM
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72. He loves to hear himself talk
no one can get a word in. Why doesn't he just do a show with himself?
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:06 AM
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74. Is brietbart his BFF
Why would he be so emotionally invested in saying anything in defense of this? I know he isn't that stupid so why the spin to protect brietbart?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:13 AM
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76. was he a part of msm swept up in the story early on? he seemed invested in blaming obama
Edited on Fri Jul-30-10 07:13 AM by seabeyond
and keeping blame of media out of light at the beginning of the truth unfolding.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:47 AM
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77. Just found this: They retaped the 7 pm segment!
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-matthews-retapes-sherrod-segment-for-7pm-hardball-rerun-after-5pm-flap/

I may be the last to know, but I didn't watch last night, just read this thread.

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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 02:12 PM
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84. I watched the late night segment ...
wondering what all the fuss was about.

It seemed fairer than what I had read about the first segment on DU.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 01:10 PM
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79. then he changed his mind and re worked his show.....
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 03:02 PM
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85. I caught that.
It was crazy-making.

Here's a hint Chris: When TWO people you respect and widely trust are telling you something, GO WITH IT. :)
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