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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:33 PM
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Appleseed Project - Rifle Course with Attitude or Sign of Growing Anti-Govt Hostility?
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 05:35 PM by RamboLiberal
I'm going to post this in GD because I think it has political implications. As a gun owner I've seen ads for Appleseed Project. I haven't attended any, but I wonder if it's an outgrowth of the Tea Party type movement.

One June morning last year, Jack Dailey drove from his home in North Carolina’s Piedmont country, through verdant, hilly farmland to a rifle range near the town of Ramseur. Eleven men and a woman had mustered there for a weeklong boot camp run by the Appleseed Project, a group Dailey started that is dedicated to teaching every American how to fire a bullet through a man-size target out to 500 yards. So far Appleseed has taught 25,000 people to shoot; 7,000 more will learn by the end of this year. Its instructors teach this skill not for the purpose of hunting or sport. They see marksmanship as fundamental to Americans’ ability to defend their liberty, whether against foreigners or the agents of a (hypothetical) tyrannical government. Appleseed frames this activity as being somewhere between a historical re-enactment and a viable last resort. I came to find out how serious they were.

Dailey, Appleseed’s founder and rhetorician in chief, is a tall man with silver hair. He wore black sneakers, a red polo shirt tucked into jeans and a red baseball cap. Sixty-six years old, he could have been a grandfather spending a leisurely morning on a public golf course if not for his unyielding expression and his voice, which is well equipped for the stirring up of men.

In the previous day’s lecture, Dailey discussed taxes — the situation of the American taxpayer, he said, compared unfavorably with the lives of slaves in ancient Egypt. Today he got down to the matter at hand: defense against overweening government. “Look at the choice those guys made,” he said, referring to the colonial-era militia. “I’ll post you 65 yards from the road. In a few hours there’s gonna be hundreds of redcoats marching down that road. Your liberty depends on you stopping ’em.”

Two lead musket balls were passed around the clubhouse, through the hands of a camouflaged Navy midshipman, two sheriff’s deputies, a farm-owning factory worker, a college professor, a pilot, a retiree and a high-school sophomore. Those who shot an “expert” score on Dailey’s qualification test would become “riflemen,” as designated by olive-green patches. For now, most of these novice shooters were referred to as “cooks.”

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At the North Carolina shoot, the cooks came from Georgia, Florida, Illinois and Ohio, bearing .22-caliber Rugers and Marlins outfitted with custom sights — what Appleseed calls Liberty Training Rifles. Though they were diverse in age and class, their uniformly white skin, down-home talk and traditional values suggested a common attachment to an America that had lost its long-held claim to the cultural center. While Dailey has said Appleseed should be apolitical, the talk at this Appleseed boot camp and at several others I attended across the country over the course of a year contained pieces of a conversation that has unfolded behind the motley carnivals of the Tea Party movement: a serious deliberation on the right about the nature of the American founding and the limits of incivility. Sharron Angle, the Republican nominee for Senate in Nevada who is campaigning against Harry Reid, has spoken of the possibility of “Second Amendment remedies” for Congressional action. “The nation is arming,” she told The Reno Gazette-Journal in May. “What are they arming for if it isn’t that they are so distrustful of their government? They’re afraid they’ll have to fight for their liberty in more Second Amendment kinds of ways. That’s why I look at this as almost an imperative. If we don’t win at the ballot box, what will be the next step?” Rick Barber, a Republican candidate for Congress in Alabama, has broadcast an ad in which an actor dressed as George Washington declares, “Gather your armies.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/01/magazine/01Appleseed-t.html?hp
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:38 PM
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1. civil war? good luck going up against the us army boys and girls
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:59 PM
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4. What if the "Dittohead" majority in the Army were to refuse orders from this Administration?
The military is being indoctrinated on a daily basis by the likes of Rush Limbaugh and others. They could easily swing to the tea bagger side of things..Then What?
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:02 PM
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5. What makes you think they're a majority?
If you really believe they're a majority, then what you're saying is that the predominant part of our military is waiting to commit treason.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:16 PM
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6. I do believe the great Majority of our Military is very Conservative
Whether they are bordering on treason or not is entirely another matter.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 07:57 PM
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9. I don't think I would agree with you
From what I have heard from polls, the conservatives are more common as officers, but liberals are more common in the enlisted ranks. However, as I said this is from polling and I can't vouch for it.

BUT, those who decide on their own to not obey orders because they think Obama is a Mooslin are toying with treason. They swore an oath. They are supposed to keep that oath.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:20 PM
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7. Maybe things have changed with Afghan war but in 08 Obama got 44% vote
In the past two election cycles, Democrats have added ten new Democratic veterans to Congress. Last week, President-elect Barack Obama helped close the gap among military voters, winning 44 percent of veterans as opposed to John F. Kerry’s 41 percent in 2004.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15455.html
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:39 PM
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2. The Napalm...It Burns !
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:55 PM
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3. Sounds like Hutaree wannabes...
Inciting treason for fun and profit.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:56 PM
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8. The line of white people lying next to one another resembles a carrara marble road
Seriously? Someone formed an organization "dedicated to teaching every American how to fire a bullet through a man-size target out to 500 yards."

The country is going to hell and the income gap is widening, so let's play colonial soldier!

We all have our stupid and useless pursuits, but at least most of them don't involve mimicking shooting humans at a distance.



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