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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:35 PM
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New York Magazine claims it's seen the Prop. 8 ruling
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/08/judge_vaughn_walker_hands_vict.html

8/4/10 at 4:16 PM

Big news: According to a source who has seen the 136-page decision, U.S. District Court Judge Walker has ruled Proposition 8, the California voter-approved ban on gay marriage, unconstitutional under both the due-process and equal-protection clauses. We're staying tuned and will report more details when we get them.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:36 PM
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1. Oh, I so hope they are right!
Will be on pins and needles, though, until it's official.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:37 PM
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2. I hope like hell this is true!
It's probably too early to celebrate, but I don't care! :party:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:37 PM
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3. What time is the ruling?
nt
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:37 PM
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6. I heard between 1 and 3 Pacific Time. nt.
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:42 PM
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12. To clarify: No courtroom session today
The only event will be publication of the decision on the court's website. The judge will not be appearing in court.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:37 PM
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4. !!! I can't wait to read it (assuming it's favorable). nt.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:37 PM
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5. Goodness, I hope this report is correct!
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:38 PM
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7. All I see on my live video of the SF Courthouse are people and cameras.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:39 PM
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8. did the judge call them personally?
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:40 PM
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11. Quite a few people have probably been involved in the drafting of the opinion.
I don't think it is very professional to leak it but it likely can happen.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:44 PM
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17. There are a buttload of people invloved with --
the creation and reproduction of every legal docoument. Info could have come from someone as simple as the copy machine operator.
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:39 PM
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9. The right is saying that it's right to hate is being infringed here!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:40 PM
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10. Ready for good news. I hope it comes!
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:42 PM
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13. Keeping my fingers crossed!
Good news indeed, if true.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:42 PM
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14. It was supposed to be out by 3PM EST--more than 90 minutes ago.
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 03:44 PM by rocktivity
Are they keeping it away from the news cycle out of fear of a backlash? Or was it supposed to be 3PM California time? Or did they make it 3PM California time in order to keep it away from the news cycle out of fear of a backlash?

:scared:
rocktivity
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:42 PM
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15. following this on Twitter now
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 03:43 PM by libnnc
reports of cheering in front of SF courthouse

they're reading the decision now according to reports
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:44 PM
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16. Prop 8 OVERTURNED!
Yessssssssssssssssss!!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:48 PM
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20. I can't believe it!
:cry:

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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:54 PM
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23. I am crying here too!
In Canada, we have equal marriage across the land and I so want to see that happen to our neighbours to the south!

I have very happy tears today!
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:46 PM
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18. CUE THE VONAGE THEME!!!
And full speed ahead on DADT...hmmm, maybe this is what Obama has been waiting for!

:woohoo:
rocktivity
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mrs_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:46 PM
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19. i'm waiting for my hrc text
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 03:49 PM by mrs_p
still haven't gotten it...

here is an update: http://prop8trialtracker.com/

and the legal document: http://www.scribd.com/doc/35374462/Prop-8-Ruling-FINAL
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:50 PM
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21. CNN/Sanchez has it. n/t
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 03:50 PM by EFerrari
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:53 PM
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22. Oh gods I hope that's true.
I cried and cried when my idiot fellow Californians passed an earlier measure in 2000, Proposition 22, defining marriage as between a man and woman. Young adults I had known since they were kids playing with my kids were shut out by Prop 22.

California has taken a twisty road on this issue. Read here if you want the history, which is too lengthy for me to summarize here. (The link itself provides a summary) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_California#History

Bottom line for me: Civil rights should NEVER be put up for a vote by the masses. The Bill of Rights itself would not be passed a second time if it were put on the ballot.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

Hekate


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:54 PM
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24. It's confirmed. Rick Sanchez has it; his prods saw the filing. n/t
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 03:56 PM by EFerrari
/oops. I can't see to type for tearing up. lol :woohoo:
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mrs_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:05 PM
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25. i share your tears!
i am so happy
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