You gotta bet that White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs was so goddamned pleased with himself when, in an interview with The Hill, he got his nasty on about "the professional left." See how brave he is? Attacking the people from whom the President is supposed to have spawned? Yeah, you know that Gibbs got a little boner when he spat, "They will be satisfied when we have Canadian health care and we’ve eliminated the Pentagon. That’s not reality." "Oh," he must have thought, "how Rahm will scratch me behind my ears and laugh as I lick my balls." Such praise is rare these days. (Speaking as a relatively semi-pro leftist, Canadian health care? Sure. Eliminate the Pentagon? Not so much. Cut the Pentagon maybe to a square or a triangle? Sure.)

So, let's get this straight, Bobby G. We on the left warned your boss and the Democrats that every time you reached out your hands to the Republicans, those fuckers would just gnaw on 'em. But you kept on with the effort of bipartisanship, watering down bills and watering 'em down. Anyone with a lick of sense knew that the GOP was just setting you up: force 'em to compromise and then make sure that what gets passed does just a scintilla of what could have been done. On bill after bill these mad negotiations occurred, and now you're accusing us of not living in reality? No, really, truly, fuck you, man.

Gibbs also said, "I hear these people saying he’s like George Bush. Those people ought to be drug tested. I mean, it's crazy." You really wanna have this fight? 'Cause when's the last time you called the Tea Party delusional or "crazy." And here's a hint on how to prevent liberals from saying Barack Obama is like George W. Bush: stop acting like Bush. Howzabout an easy one: don't take the same cruel positions as the Bush administration in court cases that continued after Bush was out of office. Howzabout another easy one: do something without compromising, like order a halt to any effort to drum gay soldiers out of the military. Howzabout closing Gitmo, like the President promised endlessly on the campaign trail? Howzabout not saying you have the right to murder Americans abroad at will? Howzabout recess appointing everyone the Republicans are holding up? An aggressive stance towards the GOP ain't just about words, man. Words are worthless. It's action that matters

We on the left who paid attention didn't expect Barack Obama to be our big liberal buddy Christ. We did, however, take him at his word on a number of issues, like transparency, for instance. Instead, we're supposed to be grateful that bills with the names of items on the left-wing agenda got passed. Look at this big-ass new law. It says, "Health care." Ain't that cool?

Finally, fuck you, Mr. Press Secretariat, because you should be wooing the fuck out of us. You should be trying to get in our underwear and hand job us with a smile on your face instead of treating us like a convenient punching bag because you don't want to offend the precious "real America" or whatever bullshit phrase politicians want to use to isolate and alienate us. Why? Because we're the ones that made sure you are the Press Secretary.

Gibbs said, "They wouldn’t be satisfied if Dennis Kucinich was president." Do you really wanna go down that road, Bobby G?

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/

I'll go first.

:kick:

n/t.

A MOST excellent rant! Twenty-three recs in the first seven minutes. We have liftoff, Houston.

Bunch of fucking TURNCOATS.

OBAMA HAS SCREWED OVER HIS BASE TIME AND TIME AGAIN WITH HIS BULLSH*T COMPROMISES AND HALF-ASSED LEGISLATIONS

THIS MAN IS BUSH IN A DEMOCRAT’S BODY

HE’S LIKE DIET BUSH.



ALAN GRAYSON IS OUR ONLY HOPE.

And that's the way it's been for quite a while.

RAWR

I'd also like to know what Pelosi is saying -- she's had to complain to the

White House TWICE now about comments like this dissing Democrats in Congress!!!

She's given us a big clue as to what's really going on:

"Obama was for a lot of things when he was compaigning which he is no longer for!"

Every Democrat needs to set their BS meter much H I G H E R !!

your enemies, well, kiss their ass...what a brilliant strategy!

:applause: :yourock: :woohoo: :bounce:

:yourock:

I have a feeling theres gonna be one of those... I was taken "out of context" moments in the near future....

No thanks, Gibby. You're still an ass.

They are like Democrats cast in the same mold Joe Lieberman was cast from. Which, I guess to some Democrats, is a good thing. Even though Joe eventually left the party when he didn't get his way.

K&R

They are them. The DLC.

-Hoot

:)

Well, I'm not sure if Dennis Kucinich will ever be President. But Howard Dean would have been president, if not for a full on slanderous DLC assault on him led by one Robert "the lost Bee Gee" Gibbs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1DqOwP3Xzc

And yeah Gibbs, I'd be pretty satisfied in year 6 of a Dean presidency right now, you treasonous asshole :grr:

Can you imagine how different things would be today?

:applause:

Gibbs is and always has been a second rate hack operative.

:patriot:

I still like Kerry and the policies he wonks... but Dean has heart and charisma... —I apologize...

http://mydd.com/2007/2/22/robert-gibbs-the-drag-on-obama



Even Markos Moulitsas, hardly a lefty/progressive, calls Gibbs a "smear-meister best known for his work trashing other Democrats" and says that "Obama clearly dipped into the slimiest corners of DC to pluck out Gibbs".

but this says by "Americans for jobs, health care and progressive values"!!!

This was the DLC?

I did hear it was the DLC -- and very little Democratic Party rebuttal --

it looked like a "triangulation" -- !!!

Well, of course, now I know that Obama is a "New Democrat" -- never heard him

say that cause I sure as hell wouldn't have voted for him!!

Kerry was a 3% favorite across the country -- TPB moved out a liberal/progressive

to put another failed candidate in place!!

Before that we had the fake Gore/Liberman duo - Imagine had Lieberman reached the VP!!


I,too, would have been greatly satisfied with a Dean presidency --

my son gave a lot of money to that campaign and won't vote any longer --

Wonder why?

We have to get rid of this "New Democrat" and "DLC corporate cancer" INSIDE THE

DEMOCRATIC PARTY . . . IF we expect to progress -- and break this downward spiral which

Obama is pushing!!

Next stop -- Obama attacks Social Security and Medicare!!

K&R

Perfectly stated. My disgust with this Administrationm grows by the day.

It doesn't look to me like Obama even wants the freakin' job. Certainly his family sure wouldn't mind going back to Chicago.
Why don't they just admit it and let what's left of the Democratic party find a candidate who actually wants the job, not just the title.
Alieniating a significant portion of their support isn't going to get it done in 2012.
I'm all over cretin Rick Scott in Florida advocating drug testing for welfare recipients (so now we can have addicted broken people in the streets!); now the Press Sec of the Pres I voted for wants to drug test me! Piss on you, Gibbs - here's your drug test right here.

Thank you, Rude Pundit. We are in your debt. :applause:

K & R

And may I echo the "Fuck You" directed at Mr. Gibbs.

he's probably so coked up he doesn't even know what he's saying

Mr. Gibbs, we're Democrats. We deal with reality. Yes, Republicans have it easier. They can say one thing on Monday, something completely different Tuesday, deny any contradiction on Wednesday, be praised for their bold stance on Thursday, and pick up a fat contribution from the people they just screwed on Friday. Democrats aren't built that way. We elected your boss to do what he said he was going to do. But what we've seen instead is endless pandering and compromise with the people we turned out of office and put in the minority. Then those same Republicans, after neutering every legislative proposal, immediately turn around and give your boss shit for being a socialist for the thin broth that eventually got passed.

It's three months until the mid-terms. Shouldn't you be trying to curry a little favor from your base? You haven't built much of a record. Implying we're on drugs because we remember the promises you haven't kept doesn't really motivate us. Yanno?

Bravo!

& Fuck Robert Gibbs!

a top administration official has given them the greatest gift they could ever receive.It is obvious now that Obama is way out of his league,he will be a one term President and Gibb's comments has nearly guaranteed a Republican victory in 2012..But he dont care ..he could easily step into the same role in a republican administration.

it was good for me, too.

:thumbsup: :hi:

:thumbsup:

... maybe liberals should start a mailing campaign sending urine samples for Mr. Gibbs to analyze?

Pwnt.

The Rs hate Obama. Hate. All they care about is money/power: how to acquire it, how to wield it, how to keep it. PERIOD. Nothing else enters in to their political calculations. Nothing.

The Rs are animals. Based on their actions and words, they haven't earned either respect or deferential treatment - in any way.

Does the White House understand this? I'm starting to think that they don't. And thanks for the silly straw-man arguments, Bobby. How many times can this jackass keep putting his "professional left" foot in his pie-hole?

Thanks for saying what needed to said, Rude.

:thumbsup:

I enjoy the Rude Pundit's work most of the time, even this time. I think we need this fight.

Guantanamo Bay: Still open
PATRIOT Act: Still in force and still used, in fact, even moreso according to some articles I've read
Wall St coddling: Still in effect. Obama tossed aside people like Reich and sidled up with Bank of America execs that he put in his top economic spots
Corporatism: Health care "reform" that is a boon to private insurers (who helped craft the legislation). Wall St "reform" that barely registered as a slap on the wrist (again, big banks and top execs helped craft it and it was watered down to cater to the GOP)
Treatment of gays: DADT still in force, President stated again the other day he's against same-sex marriages (he's fine with "civil unions" or somesuch...nice attempt at nuance there.
Wars: Afghanistan has been escalated. Still wasting billions in Iraq.

to the common sense of Liberal politics for America. He was the single biggest threat to the corporate interests, and that is why he was never given even an inch of room to discuss with America his ideals. Rather, when he was allowed to speak, it was only to defend himself against nonsensical accusations from the right.

And look what happened to Dean.

There is just no way the Establishment (the corporate-owned GOP and most of the Dems) will allow an "outsider", a pragmatist, to enter the hallowed halls of the White House.

Through 'their' actions, and now their words, they have demonstrated that they want an easier path.

:kick: and Recommended!

Dennis is right now in a campaign to hold his seat, and this Gibbs, this puff pastery of a man would use him as rhetorical fodder? Does Bobby like the Republican better in Ohio's 10th?

i am so pleased this thread is getting so many recs.

so it is quite possible Gibbs is rooting for the opponent. The DLC creed seems to mandate kissing Repuke ass at the expense of fighting for Democratic values. Gibbs is just showing his true colors.

would MUCH prefer the Republican running in the 10th, over Dennis Kucinich. The Republican is much closer to the political goals, ideals and aspirations of the DLC New Dems than Kucinich.

I wonder how long it will be before Mr.Gibbs needs to spend more time with his family.I didn't miss Snowjob when he left,and I'm beginning to feel like I might miss Gibbs about as much.

he's not as dumb as Dana Perino, but his abilities are just as ill suited to the job.

That's exactly it. When bush wanted to convince the world that invading Iraq was what was best for Iraq instead of what was best for bushco, he named it Operation Iraqi Freedom. See, it's got the word freedom in it, so you know it has to be good. We all saw through that. But because President Obama called a bill "health care," it winds up on those "Here's all the brilliant stuff the great and mighty God Obama passed that no one else never ever has done before" lists.

This guy nailed it. Here's what pisses me off about what Gibbs said, and about the attitudes of a handful of people on this board. It isn't about Dennis Kucinich or about progressive or professional left or what ever other noun they want to turn into an insult. I didn't support Kucinich. I voted for Clinton. I don't hate the DLC--some of what they do, sure, but not as the boogieman others make them out to be. I love capitalism. I think corporations can be controlled, rather than eliminated. I loved President Clinton--best damn leader this nation has had since FDR, and despite claims to the contrary, he moved us further to the left than anyone since FDR. Hell, I've never even smoked pot or sipped a latte, and I'm not even sure what the Hell a Birckenstock is, though I think it's a shoe.

I'm getting sick of the labels and name calling and assumptions. I understand pragmatism, I understand compromise, I even understand giving up some of your ideals to get into power in order to accomplish a greater goal. LBJ, for instance, was a master of that, and it got Civil Rights passed. Sometimes that's the best way to move the nation forward, and I'm all for that. But Obama gives away too much. His health care bill is one sided (though it's not a complete failure). The troops aren't coming home. The greater goals are not being achieved, and too often the minority party, the one out of power, is getting more of what they want than we are getting of what we want, even though we won the election.

What's going to happen after November, when our control is smaller, or gone altogether? How much is he going to give up then? He can't even overcome a couple of votes to stop a filibuster, how is he can to handle it if they get a majority? (And yes, despite the fact that the legislator passes laws and the president does not control it, every single successful president we've ever had has worked Congress to get what he wants, so why should Obama be held to lower standards than, say, LBJ?).

I support President Obama. I'm not saying I won't vote for him, in the general at least. Voting Republican (and that means not voting or voting for a third option--don't pretend it's different) is not an option. I will continue to support the Democrats. I haven't liked everything the Democrats have ever done, but I can say unequivocally that every single thing that has made me proud to be an American done during my lifetime was done by a Democrat. That's the party I'll vote for, even if I'm disappointed in the opportunities we've missed.

But Mr. Gibbs, fuck you if you think I'll shut up about it.

Immediately stopped paying attention to any of those sentiments once they heard they still had that poster's vote, however.

Good point. But they weren't listening before, anyway. They care only about demographics, not about individuals. I'm a certain Democratic vote in a state they have no chance of winning (Texas), so they stopped listening before I started talking.

Now if he has a primary challenger, then maybe my vote would count for something. I didn't say I'd vote for him in the primaries. :)

That's gonna leave a mark. :spank:

They apparently want a GOP majority on the hill. Issa and others there have every intention of impeaching Obama.
Will that be the whitehouse excuse after Novemeber of not accomplishing all that they have already not accomplished?
Looks like it.

Gibbs can fuck off! :grr:

NC delivers for Obama--and how the hell do you think that happened?

NC Blue worked their asses off for Obama--and what thanks do they get?

F*ck you, Gibbs.

Home Run!

i bet i would be! i can guarantee i would be more than i am with Obama. really Gibbs, really? you're offering us DK? DEAL! I'll take it!

The Democratic Party ain't what it used to be.
Gibbs fucked up and accidentally told the TRUTH.
The "New Democrat" Centrist (1/2 Republican) "Sensible" Democratic Party Leadership has absolutely NO respect for us "Old" FDR Democrats.

Well, actually...

Couldn't have said it better. Just what are they smoking in the White House?

Comparing Obama to Bush IS insane.

That said, I still like the Rude Pundit.

but how republicanly stupid to express it as he did.

:hi:

:hi: Hi to you, too!

:rofl:

I like that description, and am going to steal it. :hi:

just plain fucking denial parading as intelligence.

:yourock:

I said that I agreed with Gibbs on the notion that it's insane to compare Obama to Bush. I don't care how popular such comparisons are here.

How dare he insult the very activists that jump started his boss's candidacy? I think this whole administration is totally out of touch.

I heard a few local radio personalities say yesterday that they were convinced Obama will be a one termer. One is conservative but, surprisingly, very sharp and his co-host is a liberal Democrat.

Goddamn, that's tellin' it.

Think again.

Shove your propaganda bullshit where the sun don't shine, asshole.

So great that.
:sarcasm:

make the Repubs smile.

And since the White House is openly sneering at the democratic voters who put them in office, as is now abundantly evident, I'd say that the Repubs are already smiling.

every time Dems quarrel. But what makes you think the Left's not welcome in the "Dem" tent? A quarrel does not make that true.

But a lot of people on DU seem not to welcome DLC in the Dem tent. Opposing DLC-ers in primaries is ok, but once the Dem candidate is chosen, every Dem should support him/her.

criticized, ridiculed etc. all the time. Why should you/we be so much more sensitive than them?

Nobody does it better than Rude!

"We need you to help us change Washington".

Yep, they need us to help change Washington.

As long as we don't want to change things too much.

Jeeeeezzzzzzzuzzzzzz, do they expect us to send them more money for re election now?

Gibbs is a bottom-feeder, but we must remember that as a spokesman he's not allowed to have an original thought. The line in this thread is an admirable 'Fuck Gibbs,' but it could just as appropriately be 'Fuck Obama.'

the DLC themselves. They achieve the most gains when they operate in the shadows. Just inmply you're not DLC and campaign using lots of populist talk. DLC New Dem SOP = campaign left, govern right.

"The Devil's greatest trick was convincing people that he didn't exist". Putting aside the fundagelical implications of the literal interpretation of that statement, it fits the devils who have infiltrated the Democratic party perfectly. :evilfrown:

Mr. Gibbs----I've been fiscally conservative but socially liberal for 65-years. In 2000, I was shocked that the Democratic Party did little to fight back before the SCOTUS made their evil ruling. In 2002, I was dismayed with the Democratic Party. In 2004, I finally admitted to myself that there were very few real Democrats left and even fewer true Republicans.

I stopped voting for any Republican in 2002, no matter how much I thought they'd be better than the Democrat on the ticket, and began voting straight Democrat. But by 2004, I had seen enough handwriting on the wall from my party and left to become an Independent, knowing full well that I'd have to put up with Republicans mailing me enough garbage to fill a landfill. Just a little protest that only I cared about, I am still a democrat at heart and couldn't wait to vote for Mr. Obama and make him President Obama.

Now I see from your words that my vote was and is apparently unwanted. Fine with me, I'll be happy to vote for a viable 3rd party candidate in 2012 and help you spend more time with your family. When you talk like and act like a Republican you don't deserve my vote, my husband's, my father's, my children's, etc.

When there's only one party with two names, it's time for us to start a new party. And there are a lot of us, we got Obama elected after all. So we can get someone else elected, if you keep insisting...someone who will look out for the people...you know, like Obama promised. No, we didn't expect him to perform miracles, all we wanted was someone with a spine to take a stand and be a strong Democrat. We haven't seen very much of that yet.

Sincerely,
One-pissed-off-independent-democrat

gawdamn boner when he wrote his little diatribe. Jerk off.

I always loved your support of my son Ben but you have lost your fucking mind. Ignore.

rude pundit is a fucking jerkoff.

Gibbs is right.

very, VERY wrong

Tell us what you REALLY think!
:yourock: :yourock: :yourock:

Having to stay away from this thread for fear of "exposure" simply has to be killing our DLC conservatives here on DU. I hope DU'ers keep this thread alive for a long time......prolong the agony.

corporatists. They do not reach out their hand to watch it get bitten off, They put it out there to grandstand. Kabuki style; So well prepared corporatists, both Democrat and Republican, can rewrite the bill in their own selfish image; And in back rooms, water down the grandstanding he needs talk, to keep the farce that he is a democrat, rather than a suckup corporatist, who is not working for the people; To make sure no real help for the folks out there gets passed.

Show me any bigshots, or corporations, damaged by any of these wonderous bills; Pretending to regulate these obscenly bloated boondoggles that are blood sucking the life out of this country.

This is the kind of farce Kabuki theater was created to address; So he can say in the best kabuki pose, look how hard I tried; While behind the mask, and behind the curtain, satisfied, that all benefits go to corporations but, through amateur slight of hand, is without the chains; And machinations of his secret backroom deals, where the bills are written and where his nod is given; All given to those same corporations sucking us dry and at whose alter he and corporatists grovel.

If any disagree; Name the legislation that truly benefited the people of this country at the expense of corporation theft; And don't trot out Stem cell, a forgone conclusion tht too is a windfall for corporations. Show me any legislation that damaged a corporation's ability to steal;

Not just the few, trotted out for dumb show and noise, that are, at the end of the day, held by that fragile strings of life, held up to pull a tear; For the inevitable and exorbitant extortion in the fine print; To be paid by the people of this country so that corporations not lose of penny of their extortion; that we, out of human decency, for these dire circumstances will pay through the nose.

On top of the unbridled doubling and tripling of premiums, now forced by law, be paid; Whose only alternative is accepting a "tier" that essentially provides bandaids and crutches if you have the money to pay for them.

Show me the even handed justice that would put these wall street thugs and war criminals whose crimes are well and mountainously documented; In dungeons so deep their eyes, like those of newts, disappear; Or show me any justice at all, for that matter, for any CEO's or proven war criminals and their cronies.

Show an incredulous world, who must come to the conclusion that, we the people, elect these kinds of people who are no more than dangerous loose cannons to world peace; Hypocrites, for whom death is life, war is sacrosanct and holding the world and its own people hostage to a one sided economy; To entirely different standards of draconian law; Entirely different than that applied to itself and its cronies,

Prove to me we are not living in a system of crony justice whose only outcome can and will be authoritarian rule; Whose sweat and backbreake, will be extorted for the few; A crooked system that can go in only one direction, toward a feudal fascism.

This president needs to look into a mirror without the crack that smoke provides.

This president et al, thinks we are indeed, nothing but a bunch of drooling fools that can be played over and over; When it is themselves they should be putting under the lens of nothing harder than common sense.

even if Kooch was President. The minute he figured out that the legislative branch makes laws you guys would be calling him a corporate sellout.

Making law involves compromise--a LOT of it. FDR, Kennedy, and Johnson all knew that. Fortunately, FDR and Johnson had so many Democrats that they really didn't need to talk to any opposition--but even FDR's coalition involved placating Southern racists so they wouldn't hold his domestic agenda hostage.

And since even the teeny-tiniest amount of dialogue with anyone who does not agree with you (and I'm not even talking about Republicans...I'm talking about the Blue Dogs) makes you so angry you poop blood, I know for a fact that if Dennis Kucinich was President your crowd would fucking HATE him.

Not to mention assuming things about your fellow DU'ers' never-to-be future actions.

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and you get more ridiculous by the day

shame on you.

Although they are starting to crack up... "victims" there goes the Freudian slip.

All they have is right wing talking points and blaming the victim no matter what, if that is not circling the drain of intellectual honesty I don't know what it is. The facade is coming down for this cult of personality and their creepy groupthink.

dems to act and think like dems. The greatest president in american history was a lib and he got elected four times. libs are dems.

Gibbs should be out there reminding us of the many things the Obama administration has accomplished, not trashing the millions who hoped for a pragmatic, very effective Democratic block to support our need for a 21st Century FDR.

He should have listened to Van Jones' speech to the Netroots a few more times. Yes, you are heartbroken, but don't give up now.

Edited to add-- No I would not be complaining about Kucinich as president. He would have pushed his hardest for Medicare for All, especially with the millions suffering evictions and bankruptcy after the Bush Crashes-- economic and moral.

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Rude...

:yourock:

:kick:

:wtf:

:shrug:

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We love you!!!

Any evidence available for review at all?

it is the FUCKING TRUTH

n.t.

why is water wet?

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Yes. I'm yelling!

So tired of left vs right, blah blah blah. and the "drug testing" comment being so casually thrown around makes him look like an idiot.

K&R Professional leftist for universal healthcare to ensure drug tests for all.

"Finally, fuck you, Mr. Press Secretariat." :)

:thumbsup:

fucking AWESOME :thumbsup:

what would make us happy? They haven't even tried yet.

Here is an O-ED posted on this website some time ago: the email i will probably regret sending--edited with thanks and some responses
by NearlySomebody

Fri Jul 23, 2010 at 11:53:02 PM PDT
Wish I could write something in anger and disgust EVERY morning at 2AM then wake up at 7 and have my wife tell me I am on the rec list. Glad you all find this useful. I am just sick and tired of pussyfooting around HOW WE GOT INTO THIS MESS. For those of you who object to the salty language, my apologies. Please take it out, rinse and repeat. For those of you who asked about how it will affect my relationship with my family, worry not. My family, though politically divided, is big on love and understanding of each other. I have an awesome family. For those who asked if they could use parts of it, by all means, take it away.
For the past few years I have been getting email forwards from my dad. He always asks if they are true, and I always do a little bit of research and debunk them. And that was ok, if annoying. But I finally sent the email I have been fearing I would, and now I wonder about the repercussions.
• NearlySomebody's diary :: ::
•
The email came to my box with the note, "This will probably piss you off..."
Thanks for sending it then; I really love to be pissed off.
The video was some asshat out in Vegas who runs a casino and wants to tell us how badly the American government has failed...and of course, the usual suspects from my dad's email circle all had to chime in and say how right he was and how bad Obama is, etc... ad nauseum... So I replied...
So let me get this straight, the great recession is government's fault, the uncertainty of the American business climate is government's fault, the fact that we are pissing away 12 billion a month in an illegal war for no good reason other than to make money for oil companies is Obama's fault, the fact that when Bush took over we had a record budget surplus and in his 8 years he LOST net jobs (as compared to population growth) and ended up with more deficit in 8 years than we had had in the previous 200...and somehow this is Obama's fault? Jesus Christ. If you sat through the last 8 years and watched the Constitution shredded, our treasure wasted on a war we were LIED into, and the wages and wealth inequity gap get just as big as it was before the Great Depression and then you get mad at liberals, there ain't much I can do for you.
But for starters, what do YOU THINK is going to happen when the top 1% own 33% of everything in America and the top 10% own approximately 65% of it? Who is left to buy all the useless shit that we have to consume just to prop up the economy? Through the combination of union busting, outsourcing, and the ever-shifting tax burden from the rich to the middle class over the last 30 years, the middle class has had to borrow money for the last 3 decades to keep up with the cost of living. Inflation outpaced job earnings over the last 30 years. Think about that. If you don't see that there have been systematic problems in the country for almost as long as I have been alive, you need to start paying attention. They engineered policy to keep interest rates low to make it cheap to borrow money, and that's how we ran America...that's how we HAD to run America because working people were not making enough to make ends meet. So we borrowed and borrowed and borrowed. And then the bill came due. Hey, this is kind of funny! Did you know that Bush raised the debt ceiling 7 times while he was in office? That's like...almost every year he was in office,right? And you want more of that?
So to recap, Bush financed two wars on a credit card by selling debt to China...and NOW you are pissed off about government spending? Bush LOST net jobs...and NOW you are pissed off about jobs? Bush and the republican congress drove the car into the ditch and Obama tried to pull it out, and NOW you're mad? Now? You sleep-walk through the destruction of habeas corpus, through tax dollars spent on torturing people, through illegal and unconstitutional wire-tapping of America citizens, (and this shit is still happening because now it is JUST THE WAY WE DO THINGS HERE. THANKS!) through illegally outing an American spy for a political grudge, through the deregulatory enabling of Enron, Worldcom, and the shredding of Glass-Steagall (when they did the same thing with savings and loans we got the S&L implosion of the 80s...so we deregulated banks and got the banking implosion of the aughts. Which part of that is difficult to understand?) Your email circle slept through all of that, and NOW they get mad. Unfuckingbelievable.
Here, have some fun facts about wages in America: http://www.businessinsider.com/... Look through the slide show and tell me what you see. Rich getting richer, everyone else getting poorer.
Now some dipshit who owns a casino is going to lecture me about financial responsibility? A casino owner is going to lecture me about the proper use of my money? Really? Some asshole who is moving his corporate headquarters to China so he won't have to pay any taxes to America, a system whose government-subsidized roads and airlines supply him with an endless supply of morons who will gamble away their money at his resort? Give. Me. A. Break. If it were not for federal and state money supplying them with water, do you think they could even live out there in the FUCKING DESERT? Fuck him.
The reason we have an oil spill in the gulf, the reason the economy collapsed, and the reason we have wasted so much money in Iraq (did they find those WMDs yet?) is because government did NOT do its requisite job of oversight and regulation. The market is not rational...PEOPLE are rational. That is, if you are the guy who realizes that he can rip people off for billions of dollars and not get in trouble for it, you will, every single time. That is a cold, rational decision, the products of which we are suffering through right now. When you give regulators jobs to "regulate" and then tell them sort of tacitly that the market is infallible and that they should not interfere, you get this: http://www.dailytech.com/... People making 200k a year (paid by taxpayers) to watch porn in their offices instead of doing their jobs. Then, the failsafe for republicans is they can turn around and say, "See! Government doesn't work!" Right, because those assholes are systematically trying to destroy it. You drive the economy into a ditch we have not seen since 1930, and then you bitch about Obama spending tax money to try to fix it? Where is the disconnect here exactly? Do you think McCain would have done a better job? Sarah Palin? For fuck's sake, if she is our savior we're in big trouble (even though she does read ALL OF THE MAGAZINES). Drill baby drill? That's your platform? HA! Then Bobby Jindal is going to bitch because the federal government is not helping them enough? Just drill some more and remember when you said this: "We oppose the national Democratic view that says the way to strengthen our country is to increase dependence on government. We believe the way to strengthen our country is to restrain spending in Washington, to empower individuals and small businesses to grow our economy and create jobs." Yeah, Bobby, this is deregulation come home to roost. Suck it.
Then to cap it all off, every email forward your friends have sent in the last 8 years has been false. (Remember, these are the "rational" republicans, not the naive and emotional democrats!) I mean, republicans are entitled to their own opinions, but not their own realities. Everything that you guys are passing around and getting all worked up about is, you know, pretty much a lie created specifically to manipulate you into being angry.
Do I seem pissed? I have to tell you, it is not just because of some douchebag casino owner. It is because there seems to be two kinds of people in America: people who try to make America better for the greatest number of people on one side and people who lie, deny scientific evidence, and try to kill you for being a democrat on the other. In case Fox hasn't been covering it, there was yet another murderous patriot last week on the hunt for liberals. He was going to go shoot up the ACLU in San Francisco because Glenn Beck put it in his mind to. He was going to go kill liberals...liberals like me. And every time your friends fire off another email full of lies, the world gets a little less safe for people like me. And that is why I am pissed.
There, rant done.

Gotta love talking to yourself a lot. If we didn't care about it the first time, why do you think we would care about it if you post it over and over?

so fuck you very much.

The Rude One nails it, like usual. :patriot:

Like his boss who went before the Chamber of Commerce and supported the wholesale firing of teachers.

And told Bloomberg that he didn't begrudge banksters their ill gotten bonuses -comparing them to baseball players who didn't win the world series.

Peas in a pod.

“Being wrong while being right” http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/8/10/891907/-Being-wrong-while-being-right
Being wrong while being right
by blackwaterdog

Tue Aug 10, 2010 at 04:28:34 PM PDT
• blackwaterdog's diary :: ::
“Gibbs did a stupid thing, he should have known better, but he told the truth. And those who actually read all his comments know that he was NOT talking about the grassroots, about people who worked hard to get Barack Obama elected, not to mention the 90% approval he's got among Liberals - it's a bad spin - he talked about the same people Michael Moore once called "The Professional Left", those who makes very good money from their job as "Lefties", regardless the reality, regardless the damage they inflict.
It's about joining the Right Wing in creating a narrative of failure around a very good Liberal president. It's just amazing. In 18 months of some of the most toxic political environment in history, the man did more to promote the progressive cause than anyone but two other presidents, and he's "Like Bush"?
You can't just criticize him ALL THE TIME, never have his back, and then insist that it's about keeping his feet on fire. No one except Rachel Maddow even bother to mention most of the great progressive stuff that he has done. There's a whole new criteria for this president - Do twice the job for half the credit.
When the most Liberal president in decades is labeled as "Bush" 24/7 by the "Liberal media", when Right Wing talking points being used as weapon against him from the left - then it doesn't matter much who will win this November. Or in 2012 – and i'm almost ready to bet that it won't be Barack Obama, that he'll take the family and go home. I'm pretty sure that Bill Maher can win the election.”
The right wing must be very happy at the reaction of the left; welcome to the tea-baggers wagon US lefties! We sure deserve all the shit that we get from the “right”!

again when they have already disgraced themselves blasting lefties. Use corporate ho's, professional democratic poseurs. Leave leftie the hell alone. If you are as stupid and inbred in the bubble as he is, you leave ambiguities open by talking using your own code. The proletariet out here, the fucking lefties who gave money they didn't have, shoe leaather to get people elected don't need to by slammed by someone so 'unartful' in their blather that it was made unclear. And I also don't believe he didn't mean the left. Fuck him.

...oh,no, that's just you pissing on my head and telling me it is. is that you, mr. gibbs?

yeah, obama is so great, now i see it.

Telling it like it is, as usual.

And one who wants the president I helped elect to smack him down publicly. Didn't this same president just a few weeks ago tell the left to keep after him? Was he lying then or is his man Gibbs out of order?

I'll put it this way. I don't work on campaigns that don't want me. So screw Gibbs. And the president too, if he agrees by silence.

Is this the great showdown? Will the WH listen now?

Fuck, you'd think he lives in Washington, D.C. in a bubble or something!!!

Stupid, stupid comment.

but we do have a place to stay. It's called home on election day.
The only things you find in the middle of the road are yellow stripes and road pizza.

... if there is no liberal democrat in the ballot for your race, vote Green/socialist/whatever. This is still a democracy regardless of whatever disingenuous bullying bullshit some of these thugs try to come up with. Vote with your conscience, stop using their triangulations as gospel, it is just designed to help their interests not yours. Remember that.

Vote. Period. Even if it is not Democrat. Building a liberal alternative at a local and state level is probably the thing that terrifies the DLC the most, orders of magnitude more than the GOP.

The White House has got to learn to shut the fuck up and respect its base. It would behoove them to show us AT LEAST the same amount of respect that they show the Right. Maybe they think all of these insults will be forgotten come this November or 2012? Well, not by me and not by many other Leftist and Proud-to-Be-Liberals!