No, but I would be "satisfied" with Howard Dean as President

The White House disdain for the left has been clarified even more for us, Mr. Gibbs.

I didn't fall for him until the fifty-state strategy.

It's a damn shame how poorly Dean was treated in return for those victories. :(

:hug:

It wouldn't take much to satisfy me. Just some of the things he campaigned on, like the public option and elimination of the PATRIOT Act would be nice.

If the economy is still in the shitter and Obama's approval ratings are mired in the low 40's, I hope *someone* primaries him in 2012.

I'd definitely vote for Howard Dean.

I always liked him but especially after his work as head of the DNC. Diving into states where there was hardly no Dem presence and making things happen. That's leadership.

will be here on the boards 10 minutes later asking for his head as well.

Either you're just fickle or you don't understand how politics works or maybe both.

Fickle my ass.

That broad brush is justed soaked in snot.

and I don't like it.Just one more straw on the camel. as they say around here "sigue cabron"

...... so corrupted by corporations, just like Congress and the Supreme Court, it wouldn't matter who occupied the oval office.

He wasn't even given the chance, for the reasons you mention. :(

But he's good at pandering to the netroots. That has always been his greatest skill. He keeps an ear to the ground. Kind of like how he was the health care candidate until he realized a lot of Democrats in Iowa were angry about the Iraq war. He suddenly became the anti-war candidate. Or more accurately, the "anti-war" candidate who wanted to keep the war going another 4-6 years and maintain the Pentagon budget.

stop making shit up that he "suddenly became the anti-war candidate."

Obama set a deadline and he's meeting it. Did Dean even offer one? You may not like what you find.

He'd have the same powers. The same Congress.

No way any US President would "satisfy" you. No way.

He would go to every single Democratic office and wrangle their votes for whatever legislation he wanted and get it done. May even go to a few Republican offices and still get what he wants. No watered down bills - the real thing. Single payer plan, or even public option. Remember what Dean said after the public option was eliminated from the final HCR bill?

He is that kind of person who would have done it.

Obama is not, apparently.

Can you imagine the shitstorm around here if Obama were to call himself a conservative anything?
The fantasy of Dean is far better than the reality of what he would have done.

I'd be thrilled.

primaries for 2012.

I bet you don't persuade him.

wouldn't even be "satisfied" with Kucinich in the White House. Repulsive statement.

being up there with the all-time game--changers.

The divisions inside the Democratic Party are long-standing, and greatly predate the Obama administration, and are more numerous than Gibbs' remarks suggest.

I'm thinking of the Democrats who abandoned Jimmy Carter for Ronald Reagan. If you want repulsive, I'd use that as a starting point, although that's just my opinion. Carter was no Udall, but he was a decent soul while Reagan was a dimwitted fool. Yet there were scores of hundreds of Democrats, precinct by precinct, lining up to vote against that decent soul.

LBJ didn't care much for the Kennedys. I think the feeling was mutual. They had to have each other on the ticket to defeat a paranoid thief like Nixon, but the geographic and cultural divide there was enormous.

Abe Ribikoff and Mayor Daley.

Democratic newsman Carl Rowan and George Wallace on MEET THE PRESS.

This is an old crack in the soundboard. I'd argue that Gibbs' comments were not at a level of some of the old-time in-party feuds. And that the piano can still be played.

and no one is talking about John Kerry who suddenly came from the rear to defeat Dean? I actually disappointedly worked for Kerry even though I had to steal hours at that time while I was caring for my dying husband. I just so wanted Bush and the Republicans gone. When I precinct walked, so many people told me that they wanted Dean and expressed the sentiment, "what happened?"

I think now we know what happened. Incidentally I was never wild about either Hillary or Barack, however, they were a better choice than McCain and HER.

It seems though that the hens have come to roost and we need to regroup and do something different.

WASHINGTON IS CORRUPT AND IT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED AND DISINFECTED.