Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

I salute my brother veteran, TED STEVENS

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
KBlagburn Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 02:57 PM
Original message
I salute my brother veteran, TED STEVENS
I did not agree with your politics, but I salute you for your service to our country, both in and out of uniform. May you and those you left this life with, rest in peace.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 03:00 PM
Response to Original message
1. Amen !
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 03:04 PM
Response to Original message
2. Ted Stevens performed a service to the country?
News to me. I just remember him shouting "NO!" when asked if he'd give up a little of that sweet, sweet pork he'd finagled for Alaska so America's children could eat or go to school. But I guess that's what passes for "service" to the country nowadays. I'll save my salutes for the likes of Dr. Little.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KBlagburn Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 03:24 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. He served in WWII, Read the op!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I refuse to denigrate anyone who served honorabley in uniform to protect my country, politics notwithstanding.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. My uncle was a brutal tyrant
I wish he had never had children
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. The original post praises him for service "both in and out of uniform"
I took exception to the notion of his service out of uniform, as he plundered the federal Treasury to line his own pockets and impoverish his fellow citizens. I have no information on anything he may or may not have done while serving in the military, but since I don't belong to the High Church of Redemptive Violence, my default setting for a military uniform isn't "worship"; sorry.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. I agree. Only the in uniform part deserves any thanks!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #3
12. Timothy McVeigh was a vet.
Any blanket policy is stupid.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. And Charles Whitman. And John Muhammad. And Lee Harvey Oswald.
I'm a veteran and proud of it, but there were military members who were sorry, no good SOBs while they were in the military. They weren't heroes. Serving is fine, but it doesn't make a person better than they are.

Ted Stevens was a right winger from a state with a tiny population. He had about the same constituency as all 435 congress members, many state senators, and many mayors. The simple truth is he was a sorry, sorry excuse for a man, a troglodyte who oppressed those already oppressed and daily carried water for monied interests.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #2
11. Ted Stevens serviced the country the way a bull services a cow.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 03:36 PM
Response to Original message
5. Okay
And John McCain served in Vietnam, John Kerry served HONORABLY in Vietnam, and so on and so forth. . .

From On The Issues
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Ted_Stevens.htm


He Fought For the Right For Women To Die in Back Alley Abortions
Voted YES on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)

Voted YES on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)

Voted NO on barring HHS grants to organizations that perform abortions. (Oct 2007)

Voted YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Apr 2007)

Voted YES on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)

Voted NO on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)

Voted YES on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)

Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)

Voted YES on maintaining ban on Military Base Abortions. (Jun 2000)

Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions. (Oct 1999)

Voted YES on banning human cloning. (Feb 1998)

Rated 21% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)

Expand embryonic stem cell research. (Jun 2004)

Rated 50% by the NRLC, indicating a mixed record on abortion. (Dec 2006)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 03:40 PM
Response to Original message
7. Ted Stevens felt some people were more equal than others
Voted YES on recommending Constitutional ban on flag desecration. (Jun 2006)

Voted YES on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. (Jun 2006)

Voted NO on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002)

Voted YES on loosening restrictions on cell phone wiretapping. (Oct 2001)

Voted YES on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. (Jun 2000)

Voted YES on setting aside 10% of highway funds for minorities & women. (Mar 1998)

Voted YES on ending special funding for minority & women-owned business. (Oct 1997)

Voted YES on prohibiting same-sex marriage. (Sep 1996)

Voted NO on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. (Sep 1996)

Voted YES on Amendment to prohibit flag burning. (Dec 1995)

Voted NO on banning affirmative action hiring with federal funds. (Jul 1995)

Supports anti-flag desecration amendment. (Mar 2001)

Require 90 day delay for compliance before ADA lawsuits. (May 2002)

Limit interstate class-action lawsuits to federal courts . (May 2002)

Rated 20% by the ACLU, indicating an anti-civil rights voting record. (Dec 2002)

Rated 0% by the HRC, indicating an anti-gay-rights stance. (Dec 2006)

ated 14% by the NAACP, indicating an anti-affirmative-action stance. (Dec 2006


I'm a bi-racial (black white) woman . . . Tell me why I should honor this man?

He did it the opposite of Senator Byrd. Senator Byrd was an admitted ass hat/ass clown in his youth then turned around and got LEFT with himself. ;-)

It's not what you did for me in 65 years ago - or 145 years ago . . . it's what you've done for me lately.

So to say: It's sad ANY human being died is one thing: It's another to salute a Human being who spent his political career denying other human beings their equality. He did that not only in his votes - but in his heart.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 03:41 PM
Response to Original message
8. That's very nice of you KBlagburn
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 03:42 PM by Blue_In_AK
Ted was a complicated person. I certainly didn't always agree with him politically, but as one caller to Shannyn Moore's show said this morning, he helped himself, for sure, but the things he did for Alaska and individual Alaskans can't be matched. He took his representation of Alaska seriously.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 03:57 PM
Response to Reply #8
13. Shannyn said it was hard to explain to people that "Uncle Ted" would have been elected to any office
he chose to run for this year or next or next. When you look at his record over the years he wasn't a hard line Republican. Even the staunchest Dems in AK (like Shannyn Moore and Jeannie Devon of The Mudflats) are mourning his passing today.

I'll defer to their judgment since they knew him best. I've learned a lot about "Mr Tubes" today and it ain't all bad.

My condolences to his family and those of the other victims.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 03:49 PM
Response to Original message
10. I hope you're being sarcastic.
He's was a corrupt, rightwing shithead.

I'm a veteran, and I have nothing but disdain for him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 30th 2024, 05:20 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC