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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:07 PM
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Dem Congressman: Robert Gibbs Should Resign For Attacking 'Professional Left'
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 05:12 PM by democracy1st
Rep. Ellison: 'Gibbs Crossed The Line'

Progressive Democrats fired back at Robert Gibbs on Tuesday, following the White House press secretary's sharp critique of what he called a "professional left" that is perpetually unsatisfied by President Obama.

"I hear these people saying he's like George Bush. Those people ought to be drug tested," Gibbs said in an interview with The Hill.

"They will be satisfied when we have Canadian healthcare and we've eliminated the Pentagon. That's not reality," he added. "They wouldn't be satisfied if Dennis Kucinich was president."


Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), an active member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, said Gibbs went too far. "This is not the first time that Mr. Gibbs has made untoward and inflammatory comments and I certainly hope that people in the White House don't share his view that the left is unimportant to the president," he said. "I understand him having some loyalty to the president who employs him, but I think he's walking over the line."

Ellison said that Gibbs's resignation would be an appropriate response. "I think that'd be fair, yeah. That'd be fair, because this isn't the first time. And, again, people of all political shades worked very hard to help the president become the president. Why would he want to go out and deliberately insult the president's base? And why would he confuse legitimate critique with some sort of lack of loyalty. Isn't this what the far right does? Punishes people who are not ideologically aligned with President Bush?"

It's wrong to suggest that progressives want to eliminate the Pentagon, said Ellison, adding that he doesn't know a single Democrat who has espoused that view. "I know of none. So I think that was an inflammatory remark that is emblematic of his careless use of language and is an example of why he may not be the best person for the job," he said. "Gibbs crossed the line. His dismissal would be fair."


Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), a civil rights legend who has been critical of Obama from a progressive direction, laughed at Gibbs's suggestion that liberal critics should be drug tested. "Should be drug tested? They think we're on something? Smoking something?" he said. "It's very hot in Washington and we've come back at a peculiar time. I just think we all just need to finish and get out of here."

Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.), the co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, also lashed out at Gibbs on Tuesday.

"I think before Gibbs or the White House points figures at liberals and progressives, they ought to check their own record," Grijalva told HuffPost. "The whole drug testing thing -- our dissatisfaction is based on the fact that we haven't met the expectations and we're hearing that from our base, period."

Grijalva was critical of the White House for abandoning the public insurance option during the health care reform debate, and for otherwise compromising too quickly with a Republican Party uninterested in bipartisanship. Gibbs had the misfortune of having his comments published on a day in August when the House is back in session and members of Congress are easily accessible to reporters. Gibbs has since walked back his criticism of what he deemed the "professional left."

"But two," said Grijalva, "that drug testing, if that's the case, would probably have to extend to 50 percent of the American population at this point. They're kind of feeling dissatisfied too."

That would require millions of drug tests, HuffPost noted.

"They can do hair follicles," quipped Grijalva.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/10/rep-ellison-demands-that_n_677195.html




Robert Gibbs Clarifies "Professional Left" Criticism, Calls Initial Comments Inartful


In a statement to the Huffington Post, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs acknowledged that his recent broadside against the "professional left" was inartful, and called for renewed unity among the Democratic community.

Referring to statements he made in an interview with The Hill published Tuesday, Gibbs reiterated his belief (which served as the basis of his initial remarks) that the president had achieved a host of legislative accomplishments for which he was not getting proper credit. But he said that Democrats, "me included," need to "stop fighting each other and arguing about our differences on certain policies, and instead work together to make sure everyone knows what is at stake because we've come too far to turn back now."

"I watch too much cable, I admit," Gibbs told the Huffington Post. "Day after day it gets frustrating. Yesterday I watched as someone called legislation to prevent teacher layoffs a bailout - but I know that's not a view held by many, nor were the views I was frustrated about."

He continued:


So what I may have said inartfully, let me say this way -- since coming to office in January 2009, this White House and Congress have worked tirelessly to put our country back on the right path. Most importantly, to dig our way out of a huge recession and build an economy that makes America more competitive and our middle class more secure. Some are frustrated that the change we want hasn't come fast enough for many Americans. That we all understand.
But in 17 months, we have seen Wall Street reform, historic health care reform, fair pay for women, a recovery act that pulled us back from a depression and got our economy moving again, record investments in clean energy that are creating jobs, student loan reforms so families can afford college, a weapons system canceled that the Pentagon didn't want, reset our relationship with the world and negotiated a nuclear weapons treaty that gets us closer to a world without fear of these weapons, just to name a few. And at the end of this month, 90,000 troops will have left Iraq and our combat mission will come to an end.

Even so, we will continue to work each day on the promises and commitments that the President made traveling all over this country for two years and produce the change we know is possible.

In November, America will get to choose between going back to the failed policies that got us into this mess, or moving forward with the policies that are leading us out.

So we should all, me included, stop fighting each other and arguing about our differences on certain policies, and instead work together to make sure everyone knows what is at stake because we've come too far to turn back now.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/10/robert-gibbs-clarifies-pr_n_676934.html
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:09 PM
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1. Gibbs tells the truth, most complaining aren't willing to help get congressional resources WH needs
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:16 PM
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4. Well thanks for the insult; but it won't work:
I'll still support the local Dem challenging the horrid Repuke who claims to be my representative in the House.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:19 PM
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5. Prove it or stop saying it. nt
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:24 PM
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8. I will agree with one point:
Many do claim Obama is just another Bush or worse.

I ran a poll here last week asking if people thught Obama's military policies in Latin America were well-intentioned or if he was part of the fascist plot to impose imperialist dictates.

60% chose the latter.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:31 PM
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10. So, how much do you know about Bush's Latin America policies?
Bush largely ignored Latin America for the Middle East. As a result, the State Department didn't f3ck with it very much and real ground was gained with respect to democracy.

The Obama administration has rolled all of that back.

It's not debatable. Obama's Latin America policy is observably more militaristic and exploitative than Bush's. It's not a matter of opinion.
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:48 PM
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14. Sorry, not buying it...
...and it has nothing to do with being a "cheerleader" even though I would look awesome in the uniform, because I'm feeling pretty disillusioned these days. But I'm still not buy the "Obama the fascist" silliness.

To what end would Obama try and expand an empire? What's in it for him? Did he suddenly make it to the WH and go insane with power and/or political kickbacks?

Because he has nothing in his past to indicate he's in truck with the corporations. That was one of the reasons we supported him to begin with. I remember people talking about him ever since he made it to the senate and gave the speech at the convention in 2004.

If he is really that evil he isn't the villain, we are, for letting ourselves be made fools of this way.

If Obama really is a fascist imperialist maybe our best hope is the GOP takes congres next year and impeaches him...with us progressives urging them on for the sake of cleaning our own house.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:29 PM
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19. I don't have to sell you anything. They supported the coup in Honduras,
they're remilitarizing the region. Go look for yourself. Expansion in Panama, Marines and warships to Costa Rica, more money and bases to Colombia, aka, the most brutal government on the continent. Increase to Peru, a close second.

I've never called the president that name. And it is a fact that controlling Latin America is how the United States projects it power.

That is a constant. It doesn't change when the White House changes hands. We were just lucky during Bush because crazy uncle Don was so obsessed by the Middle East, they neglected Latin America. The party is over and it's business as usual.

You don't have to believe me. Go find out for yourself.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:28 PM
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18. Wow! Could you send me the link to that poll?
(I tried a google & DU search but I couldn't find it.)
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:38 PM
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22. Here goes:
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:00 PM
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25. In regards to your poll questions, the closest that comes to my opinion is this:
"He is part and parcel of the imperialist ambitions of fascist corporatists." If there is evidence that he's changed course in Latin America, I'd like to see it.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:32 PM
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11. So are you really saying that Rep. John Lewis is merely complaining
and isn't willing to help to try to get people elected?

Okey dokey.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:54 PM
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23. Oh, you know those elected officials, they're not willing to get their hands dirty.
Also, up is now down. Please refer to the latest memo from corporate headquarters.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 08:09 PM
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27. I realize that he might have a hard time here in red state
hell. We've tried for YEARS to get rid of Zach Wamp as a Rep., but it took a statewide election to get rid of him, and his handpicked replacement, Robin Smith, went down in a primary, too. These results are good, but our Dem candidate will probably go down in flames because of lack of funding and he's pissed the party locals off many times.

Reminds me of '06, when the right leaning dems locally wouldn't support Terry Stulce, and at the very last minute fielded Brent Benedict, who I heard with my own ears, state a fondness for the John Birch Society. Money poured into his campaign and he won the primary under questionable election results.

And people wonder why some of us live in red state hell! Or as my spouse stated a couple of nights ago, "I love TN, I just despise most of the people here."
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 12:07 PM
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30. I hear you.
Most of my relatives live as Democrats in Red States. :hug: When you find a elected (D) official you can really support, it's worth pulling out all the stops.

Hang in there. :hi:
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:33 PM
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12. The new talking point of the day
You see it everywhere today. Yesterday, not so much. Last week? Didn't hear it at all.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:56 PM
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24. Exactly.
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Smashcut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:30 PM
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20. No, you're right, I'm not going to help the White House support the CONSERVADEM candidates
for Congress it's been supporting.

BONK
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:13 PM
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2. I love this. Democrats coming out of the woodwork.
Where have they been?

:rofl:



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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:21 PM
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17.  So all the various congressmen are do nothings whiners as well? Are they the "professional left"
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 06:22 PM by saracat
Seems to me a lot a credible folks are upset with Gibbs. Think Progress also has an article condemning him. Only on DU are folks attempting to defend Gibbs comment.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:14 PM
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3. Good on him.
Were Obama to ask for his resignation, he might even pull out of the death spiral Gibbs has seemed to put the Party into.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:21 PM
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6. "We should all... stop fighting each other and arguing about our differences..."
Kind of like, "I'm sorry you made me hit you, honey, but if you stopped disagreeing with me it wouldn't happen."

I need a shower.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:22 PM
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7. You tell 'em, Keith!
(My Congressman) :7
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:28 PM
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9. Will it never end? Every day there
is more grist for the mill. The American Mill has been running at maximum speed since before election 2008. The Republican rancor is infectious and has invaded us to the point Democrats are berating each other. The outright rudeness has affected all of us. We can do better than slap our neighbor in the face every day. Okay, I am old but I remember an America better than this.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:33 PM
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26. Dearest asjr
I do hope that you recognize my handle after all these years.

Do you remember Joe Pyne? His show is what clued me in, so many decades ago, to the twisting of language through aggression thang. America's roots are in aggression. The Constitution was an enlightened guide to CIVILIZE us, no matter the personal faults of those involved in crafting it. Here's where my American Exceptionalism creeps in... Yes, I was born on that soil and yes, I have read it and yes, it took a while for me to be included and YES, we have indeed taken advantage of that legacy step by step and YES I BELIEVE the expansion of its content leads to self-awareness and responsibility.

I also believe that the degradation of education, language, civil discourse, coupled with the rise of X-tian crazy is a HUGE THREAT to American democracy, such as it is in its bedraggled state.

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:41 PM
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13. gibbs tried to get rid of dean...
so why would`t he try to do the same to progressives.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:01 PM
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15. So Gibbs trots out this excuse...
..."Yesterday I watched as someone called legislation to prevent teacher layoffs a bailout"

Now I ask you: does anyone here think that the above statement was made by anyone on the left? Really I would be amazed if it were. But I'm willing to be corrected. I wonder if Mr. Gibbs could let us know which left-leaning person or spokesperson made the above statement.
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:21 PM
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16. i took it as another insult as he knows "us professionals" would NEVER say that, ever n/t
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OutNow Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:35 PM
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21. "They wouldn't be satisfied if Dennis Kucinich was president."
Hey Gibbs, want to bet on that? I'm fairly certain that I would be satisfied. I am not an Obama basher and will support his reelection or any other litmus test you can dream up, but I supported Dennis in 2004 and I'd do it again, maybe in 2016. Don't go trashing one of the best Democrats in Congress.

This really pissed me off. Was that the intention?
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 08:18 PM
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28. Apology NOT Accepted, Gibbs. Eat Shit And Then Disappear.... (n/t)
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 08:22 PM
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29. ZOMG! ELLISON IZ TEH EVIL MUSLIN ONE!!1!
:rofl:

K&R.
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