On Falwell's death.

My tears are with those whose civil and human rights Falwell would have taken away if he had his way. My tears are with religious leaders like Dorothy Stang.

There is a difference between celebrating his death and mourning it. I will not celebrate, but on his passing we must recognize that his doctrine was one of intense hate and bigotry. He was not like Billy Graham or other evangelicals, who at the core at least had some core principles and was more inclusive in his beliefs. Falwell spewed hate. He was more politician than pastor and more demagogue than man of God. While I don't celebrate his death, I will not mark his passing with reverence. Even McCain recognized that he was a bigot.

Incidentally, Falwell wasn't on this list of evangelicals who urged a response to help those in the Darfur genocide. He never made any public statements on Darfur at all, it seems. And he specifically refused to join 86 religious leaders (some evangelicals) in calling for action to combat global warming.

When Billy Graham dies, I will feel that he was an American icon who did what he thought was right, even when I disagreed with him. I have no such feelings about Falwell. He truly was an agent of intolerance.

On global warming:
"Then there's the myth of global warming. Recently, 86 religious leaders, some of them evangelicals, signed an environmental document for the government, calling upon the government to stop all the carbon emissions and so forth. I mean just, they didn't mean, some of the guys are real good guys, just naïve. We found out last week that the study was funded by the Hewlett Foundation, which is the Number 1 funder of pro-abortion organizations in America. They give Planned Parenthood millions of dollars every year, and they got some of our guys to sign on...When they called and said, "Will you sign this?" I said, "No." Why? I said because I don't believe in global warming in the first place, and I don't believe we caused it, and I don't think the science supports it. And Number 2, I don't want to put my name on the same thing Ron Sider has his name on, and some of these other left-wing people, and that reminds me I'll preach Sunday on the myth of global warming. And a lot of my friends signed it, and now they're embarrassed about it."

"The scientists who are not on the payroll of the government to do these studies are saying the jury's still out -- there's no such evidence there. But there are many who want to break the economic back of America by making us sign the Kyoto protocols while China, India, and half the world have said they would not do it."

On 9/11:
"The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way—all of them who have tried to secularize America—I point the finger in their face and say "you helped this happen."

On HIV/AIDS:
"AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals. To oppose it would be like an Israelite jumping in the Red Sea to save one of Pharaoh's charioteers...AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals."

On labor:
"Labor unions should study and read the Bible instead of asking for more money."

On slavery and equal rights of LGBT peoples:
"And the fact that John Kerry would not support a federal marriage amendment , it equates in our minds as someone 150 years ago saying I'm personally opposed to slavery, but if my neighbor wants to own one or two that's OK. We don't buy that." CNN : Anderson Cooper 360 (3 November 2004)

On Jimmy Carter:
"The message of peace and reconciliation under almost all circumstances is simply incompatible with Christian teachings as I interpret them. This 'turn the other cheek' business is all well and good but it's not what Jesus fought and died for. What we need to do is take the battle to the Muslim heathens and do unto them before they do unto us."

On freedom of religion:
"The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country."

On Jews:
"The Jews are returning to their land of unbelief. They are spiritually blind and desperately in need of their Messiah and Savior."

On Clinton:
"Hillary is committed, clearly, she has a distaste for, she and her husband, at one point said, he did, we, I abhor the military."

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

25 percent of Americans believe Jesus is coming back this year. We haven't evolved much.


Edit. I'm proud to be the first one to recommend this thread!!

no! we are posting on a liberal message board stating that we thought he was an asshole. which he was.

I hope no liberals decide to join him

from attending and "protesting" his funeral.

"The message of peace and reconciliation under almost all circumstances is simply incompatible with Christian teachings as I interpret them. This 'turn the other cheek' business is all well and good but it's not what Jesus fought and died for. What we need to do is take the battle to the Muslim heathens and do unto them before they do unto us."

To that I say, what?!

His master sure wasn't the Prince of Peace. That's for sure. He was a very hateful man. Too bad he couldn't find some love within himself to give before he died. He just had so much hate.

:kick:

is over, I'll let fly, too.

Recommended.

to say anything, so, I'll say it's good that he's dead.

Harsh words, and there are very few people about whom I would say this, but this man used his influence and money to preach hate and intolerance. More harsh words: the world is better off without him.

:applause:

I will not gloat, but I will not miss him, nor what he stood for. I'd rather forget he ever existed...though that's not gonna be easy...

Oh who am I kidding? :evilgrin:

There is a FSM!

I have made a few crass comments about him, but this was a great way to display who this man was and why his death, while not a victory of any kind, is not being "mourned" by many of us! BRAVO! :applause:

Wow, that's rich.

Evangelicals should study and read the Bibile instead of asking for more money.

Thank you for a brilliant post. The man was more deranged than I suspected.

K&R

There's a direct line from Falwell's pulpit to the politics of fear and destruction that have been unleashed in America over the past decades, with fatal consequences at home and around the world.

He didn't just try to make life miserable for millions of people. He succeeded.

Thus, I "celebrate." I'm glad he is no longer here to continue hurting people.

Jeebus! He was howling-at-the-moon-bucket-o'batshit-crazy. :crazy:

about global warming

"And Number 2, I don't want to put my name on the same thing Ron Sider has his name on, and some of these other left-wing people, and that reminds me I'll preach Sunday on the myth of global warming."

-In other words, the issue isn't at heart, but who is on certain sides of the issue. The guy doesn't pick his position based on what is right/wrong, but based on if a Liberal agrees/not on said issue. That is pathetic.