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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 09:34 PM
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So could it be that the GOP is acting so bat shit crazy because...
They know, given the shifting demographics of our country, this is their last best shot at getting power...
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ithinkmyliverhurts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 09:35 PM
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1. No, it's more complicated than that. They're acting bat-shit crazy because
they are bat-shit crazy.
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 09:39 PM
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4. Too True
:rofl:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 09:58 PM
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8. duzy!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 10:00 PM
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10. Some of the base is bscrazy. Some in the leadership or the real base are rich and crazy like a fox.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 08:03 AM
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37. +1
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 10:06 PM
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14. You (they) are what you eat. n/t
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 10:10 PM
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16. I think it's more a case of bat shit crazies finding a home
They would join ANYTHING if they thought they could get an audience.

GOP to the rescue!
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 10:14 PM
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17. Exactly!
No need to over analyze that one.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 09:36 PM
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2. they're acting batshit crazy because they are batshit crazy
it's hard keeping up a false face and mostly they don't bother doing anything hard
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 09:38 PM
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3. Oh wow, how much I hope you're right...
I want these bastards out of business forever.

I hope they're panicking.

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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 09:41 PM
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5. I think it's the run off from.....
the unbridled power they were handed after 9/11, and the disaster they made of it. They thought they were such hot shit for awhile there, and haven't a clue as to what went wrong.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 09:41 PM
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6. The current batch
and given that they are NOW a regional party, you might have a point

Why I have compared them in the past to the Whigs.

Now that does not mean conservatives are gone

In fact, we may see a historic shift (AGAIN) with the DNC becoming a conservative party, like they were in the 1850s, and a new progressive party will come up. Yes the New Democrats are perfectly placed to take over the conservative, rational, mantle.

IF that happens, it will take anywhere from one to two cycles for FDR and LBJ Democrats to completely figure that out.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 09:50 PM
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7. At some point one would think they'd realize the 21st century is passing them by, but
they can so easily capitalize on the ignorance, RW religion and gullibility of this country, the hatred on the airwaves/internet and the F** word cable news channel. They are such ready made propaganda conduits for all of the misinformation and disinformation they can conjure up... And often the MSM readily complies if the profit is right to move their garbage along.

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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 10:39 PM
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22. They have not admitted that the 20th century passed them by
So how could they recognize the 21st century?
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 11:11 PM
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24. That, is an excellent point! I was giving them a century of undue credit!
:toast:
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 09:59 PM
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9. Maybe they have bad bread at their events?
Didn't that cause the Salem Witch Trials?
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 10:05 PM
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13. Well that was the reason there were so many saint sightings in the
wet years of the middle ages. Mold on the rye...
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 11:29 PM
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30. The Book of Revelations certainly had an LSD assist IMO n/t
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 11:20 PM
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26. I'm sorry, I thought you said maybe they have bad breath at their events! LOL Yes, good point,
Edited on Thu Aug-12-10 11:21 PM by RKP5637
they're on LSD from the bread fungus ... fungi? And some really bad trips.

I'm still laughing about the bad breath... it just got me laughing and laughing. I think I need to go to bed.

:rofl:
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 08:02 AM
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36. LOL! I literally LOL and now my coworkers are looking at me funny! nt
:rofl:
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 10:02 PM
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11. The rise of the teabaggers has driven primary season craziness to new heights
Some of the RW pols aren't crazy, just hypocritical in pandering to the extremists they know are batshit crazy. They've created and fed a monster. It will be interesting to see what these pols do AFTER their primaries.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 10:02 PM
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12. There's some cornered animal behavior going on for sure.
And judging from their economic policies, I don't think they're capable of thinking long term.
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 10:08 PM
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15. I've Thought About That very Thing Myself...
There is little doubt...at least to me, that the "culture war" is reaching a fever pitch. It's been coming for a long time. I also believe that in society, change tends to lean towards "progression." For example. Is there any doubt that at some point in the future, drugs will be legalized? I don't know exactly when, but it will happen. Gay rights is the same way. At some point, Americans are going to stop fighting against the rights of people unlike themselves. Slavery was no different. As time went on, slavery fell out of favor...along with segregation, etc. etc. In the end, justice prevails. I forgot the quote from Martin Luther King that pretty much says the same thing about progression.

Unfortunately, it takes time. This of course is not acceptable to most of us who feel that we need justice now and not later. We are in times when these points of injustice are once again put to the test and ultimately, we will win. But that means that those who are afraid of change will fight with everything they have to stop us. After every battle, they lose a little more ground. Every time they lose ground, they go a little crazy. Batshit crazy.

I think that's what we are seeing.

-PLA

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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 10:24 PM
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18. Excellent analysis
My fear is that they are going to have one last hurray and it will be this fall. If there is a huge Republican sweep in November it will because of the Bush recession/depression not because the loonies on the right had any positive compelling vision for the country.
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 10:35 PM
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19. Cenk Uygur quoted MLK recently - "The arc of history bends toward justice..." nt
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 10:36 PM
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20. Maybe it's because they're still living in caves. n/t
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 10:38 PM
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21. It is normal
after a defeat, the first reaction is denial. "If we had only been more truly conservative, the people would still love us".

So now comes the battle for purity.

The problem for the right is that the most "pure" form of conservatism is "bat shit crazy". If you have not seen it, see Dr. Strangelove, and pay close attention to the General Ripper monologue. These guys are now running the republican show. In fact, most of the bizarre notions in that bit of text were cribbed from John Birch Society tracts currently in disribution at the time of the film's production (to include the notion that floridation of drinking water was a communist plot). The John Birchers are now hosting tea party and republican party events, and few if any of their ideas have changed.

It is amusing to consider that Goldwater, Nixon and such pushed the John Birch Society out of the republican party, because they were seen as too reactionary, racist, and anti-semitic. They are now back in force deeply engaged in this purity battle. You can hear a good mix of their stuff coming from Ron and Rand Paul. There are bits and pieces of it emanating from most of the tea party favs...

Some small victories for them this fall would help the democrats overall, as it would encourage the depths of outright lunacy and intense fratricide on the right well into the 2012 campaign. I do not want to see them holding any real power, anywhere, but a few small victories to feed the beast would not be all that bad. I do not want them to get past the denial phase too quickly.
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dem mba Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 11:28 PM
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29. good analysis
makes sense to me.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 10:43 PM
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23. No,
and they aren't the only ones " acting so bat shit crazy"
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Zoroastor Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 11:18 PM
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25. but they are doing it in unison...
There are some crazies in every organization. The right seems to draw them like flies to sh$t, and then they embrace them.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 11:42 PM
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31. some folks do the message control conga line
some do the critical thinking tango

Life's a dance. Stumble alone in a line or break out in an expression of art and passion. Music's the key. What music one listens to or plays is the key.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 11:21 PM
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27. It's their job.
Christ people, it has all the subtlety of professional wrestling or an afternoon soap.

They are the bad cops, the Dems the good cops.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 06:56 AM
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35. Sure looks that way to me. nt
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dem mba Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 11:27 PM
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28. this is merely their NEXT shot at getting power
which in a sense, also explains their craziness.

They have no vision to fix this country. They know they broke it only a few short years ago. And yet they piss and moan and invoke the specter of tyranny, socialism and fascism at Obama, Reid and Pelosi. This is the only conclusion I can draw.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 11:47 PM
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32. America is changing and they don't like it one bit. White
privilege is coming to an end and they are scared shitless.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 06:49 AM
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33. I've thought the same.
This is why they fear Mexicans as they do. For the GOP to continue in their privileged position they must mess with the electoral process in some manner. You know, like they did in 2000 and 2004.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 06:54 AM
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34. The GOP practiced trickle on politics too and basically they have
gone through all the demographics who are willing to be pissed on for the chance to become wealthy like the leadership of the conservative powerbrokers behind the party. They are down to the batshit crazy holdovers from the Civil War demographic that Nixon and Buchanan brought to the party with their southern strategy. KO had a map of the US on last night which clearly shows that the heart of the GOP/Teabagger coalition is the deep South, the old slave states and heart of the confederacy.
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