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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 12:57 PM
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'It’s hard to believe that this president doesn’t get it'
Lambda Legal's Leslie Gabel-Brett has an op-ed at Bloomberg.com about Obama and LGBT equality. It says a lot:

Dig deeper into the administration’s actions regarding the rights of married same-sex couples, and the story gets worse. Lambda Legal is representing Karen Golinski, a federal court employee who is married in California but has been denied the health insurance coverage for her wife that is available to other married judicial employees.

Chief Judge Alex Kozinski of the Ninth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals ruled that insurance must be provided to end the sexual-orientation discrimination against Golinski. Yet the federal Office of Personnel Management has refused to comply with the judge’s orders, citing the Defense of Marriage Act. Lambda Legal is now suing the federal government to compel it to follow the orders of the federal appellate court’s chief judge and provide equal benefits to the lesbian employee for her family.

It’s hard to believe that this president doesn’t get it. As an elected official in Illinois, he favored legalizing marriage for same-sex couples. Once on the national stage, he retreated from that posture in favor of civil unions, arguing that religious doctrines differ on the definition of marriage.

Any law professor knows that religious beliefs are different from the state’s civil-marriage rules, as marriage is an institution managed by government for people of all faiths and those of no faith.

http://gay.americablog.com/2010/09/its-hard-to-believe-that-this-president.html
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 12:58 PM
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1. I think his early support for it was disingenuous.
His current attitude are his true feelings.
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TheMuse Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:00 PM
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3. I think his team chooses his opinions
based on however an issue is polling currently. He needs to clean house. Except maybe Hillary, I actually kinda like her as Secretary of State. But Emmanuel, Geithner, Summers, all have to go. He ran as a Washington outsider and is acting like the usual Washington insider.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 10:01 PM
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25. +1000
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:01 PM
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4. I agree...he was in a progressive city with a liberal constituency...
...he knew which way the wind was blowing.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:02 PM
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7. I think you hit the nail on the head. It was convenient to "sound" liberal at the time.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 12:59 PM
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2. it's not hard to believe
just took some of us, like myself, longer to realize it
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:01 PM
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5. looks like the support Obama at all costs crowd has already hit this article
I just tried to recommend it and the count is still 0

guess some people just can't handle the truth
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:02 PM
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6. Of course they are. I think they feel about gay people as this President does, actually.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:06 PM
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8. True that - they wish we would just go hide in their closet.
Until then they want our time, our vote and most importantly, our money.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:10 PM
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9. I hope not but I don't doubt it
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 02:11 PM
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18. You mean the President that has hired more LGBTs into his adminstration than any other in history?

...you mean THAT guy?
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 02:40 PM
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19. tell us about his black friends
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 02:45 PM
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21. And how do you know that? Seriously, there has never been any stats kept about
such a thing...you're just spouting off stuff that the Obama is never wrong crowd tells you to spout.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:17 PM
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11. Thanks for the reminder... I just rec'd, and got the same thing.
Gotta love this "liberal" forum! :puke:

We have a lot in common... we are all throw-aways.

"Give us money and vote, then get lost."
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:19 PM
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12. 'We have a lot in common... we are all throw-aways.'
My dear, truer words were never spoken.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:22 PM
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13. Some days I really hate it when I say the right thing.
To me, you're definitely a KEEPER!

:pals:
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:25 PM
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14. Gay people are tossed aside, and abused. Homeless people are tossed aside and abused.
If you're gay AND homeless, you're really in the shits!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:26 PM
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15. Add person of color, female, any combination of two or more & forget it.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 02:43 PM
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20. Mine just got cancelled out, too.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:52 PM
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24. .
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:13 PM
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10. With "fierce advocates" like Obama, gay people don't need...well...Republicans. n/m
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 02:09 PM
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16. K&R
up to 3 reccs now. Maybe we can outnumber them. They dare not show themselves of course.

What Obama and his team don't get is that people want to see someone with conviction, they don't like weak wishy washy Presidents. The change from the campaign is so obvious that people now don't know what to believe or trust.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 02:10 PM
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17. k & r
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 02:46 PM
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22. Rec'd, Now +2 n/t
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vssmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 03:49 PM
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23. It appears that there is a lot of shit he doesn't get!
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