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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-10 11:31 AM
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The Great Jobs Depression Worsens, and the Choice Ahead Grows Starker
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The Great Jobs Depression Worsens, and the Choice Ahead Grows Starker

Friday, September 3, 2010
The Great Jobs Depression continues to worsen.

The Labor Department reports this morning that companies created ony 67,000 new jobs in August. That’s down from the 107,000 they created in July. And because the government laid off temporary Census workers, the economy as a whole lost 54,000 jobs.

To put this into perspective, we need 125,000 net new jobs a month just to keep up with the growth of the population and the potential workforce


http://robertreich.org/post/1058622195/the-great-jobs-depression-worsens-and-the-choice-ahead


All told, about

22 million Americans are now jobless.

Add in those who are working part-time who’d rather be working full time, and we’re

up to 25 million




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Hello ??????????????

Anybody home at the White House except the DLC corporate wing????

Overturn the Trade Agreements --

STOP the wars which are bankrupting the Treasury --

Overturn Reagan and Bush tax cuts for the wealthy --

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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-10 11:40 AM
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1. In November of '82...
The unemployment rate was 10.8%
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-10 11:48 AM
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4. I feel better already. nt
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-10 11:53 AM
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5. Ah, yes. The good old days when the numbers weren't so cooked.
The U-6 is more accurate when comparing to 1982, and the present U-6 is 17%. Add in the long-term discouraged workers whom Clinton defined out of existence and we're at 22%.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-10 11:56 AM
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6. Exactly . . . more like 17% now ... and very long term unemployment -- !!
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-10 02:14 PM
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11. + 1. n/t
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 01:31 AM
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12. +100
Exactly right! We are just about at the Great Depression levels. In fact if we calculated unemployment exactly the same as they did in the Great Depression, we are probably at the same levels!
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-10 01:27 PM
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7. In '82 the health ins. system worked, we had a strong middle class
Edited on Sun Sep-05-10 01:29 PM by ipaint
with pensions, benefits and good wages, we still had strong unions, no peak oil, no climate change, no massive trade imbalance with china, we were not coming out of decades of offshoring and wage stagnation and the gap between rich and poor was much, much lower.

7+ years of financing two wars and massive tax cuts to the wealthy.

A complete collapse of the housing industry which wiped out trillions in middle class wealth was not a factor in "82. Financial de-regulation was in it's infancy in '82 compared to today.

We do not have the political will to clean up the current criminal financial mess and build a solid foundation for recovery. Workers do not have the wealth or security to spend us out of one.

And pretty soon, just like clockwork and considering wall street is back to criminal business as usual, it will be time for another downturn.

That one will be a full blown depression.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 01:38 AM
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13. It won't be a full blown depression
It will lead to full blown revolution. There will be riots in the streets (worse than the '60's). We're in a depression now. Either we fix it now, or we suffer the consequences in less than 10 years.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 01:46 AM
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17. Citizens have the political will to fight corporatecrime...the Democrats don't seem to, however ....
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-10 02:10 PM
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10. The REAL unemployment rate is something like 15%
The "official" numbers are misleading.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 01:47 AM
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18. Right ... last I heard 17% .... 22 million unemployed, 25 million when you
consider those who are underemployed -- i.e., those who have taken part time

jobs to replace full time jobs they lost!

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 01:39 AM
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14. please
research how the measuring criteria changed
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-10 11:42 AM
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2. We really need to reexamine our trade policies
Some will say that tarrifs and quotas are "bad" for our economy.

So what have our "free trade" policies done for us?

Look around.

Our manufacturing base has evaporated.

We import virually everything.

Things have to change.

Yup
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-10 11:45 AM
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3. I remember that recession...
I was laid off.

But it seems to me that this "recession" has much less capacity for rebounding than did the one in 1982. Because so many jobs have been lost overseas and so much of our manufacturing base has disappeared. Also, we have gone thru a computer revolution since 1982, which has replaced a lot of people in jobs.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-10 01:34 PM
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8. Haven't you heard the latest?
this is the fastest recovery in 25 years...or something.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 01:40 AM
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15. no, no
didn't you hear - we already RECOVERED! But now, we're in danger of......HAVING TO RECOVER AGAIN!!!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 01:44 AM
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16. I know there's a lot of right wing/DLC propaganda around -- but
I don't really watch TV -- C-span, Jon Stewart, Olberman, Schultz, Maddow --

Hartman - Randi Rhodes -- when I can.

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phasma ex machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-10 01:39 PM
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9. Percent Job Losses in Post WWII Recessions
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