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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:19 PM
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Do fundies think God has an evil sense of humor?
We keep passing all these laws trying to make gayness illegal -- well if it's so bad why did God create gay people to begin with?

We keep harping on how fatness is a drain on our resources and how fatties just need to lose some weight. -- well why didn't God just create the human body in a way that fatness is good and ice cream is health food?

And what about global warming? Surely God, all seeing and allknowing, knew mankind was going to break into the fossil fuels at some point. Why didn't he create the earth so burning fossil fuels made life on earth better, not worse?

I think this is a lot of reason why the Christian right just doesn't want to deal with the reality of the world we live in. At some point even we people of faith have to reconcile the realities of the world with our faith - somehow ..... but when 1/2 the Republican candidates are willing to raise a hand and claim they don't believe in science, it's obvious to me that total insanity has taken over the fundie right.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:21 PM
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1. They have a whipping boy....
Satan! According to them, God doesn't do mean things. Satan does.
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ddbaj Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:22 PM
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2. Well...
Most people just pick and choose which parts of religion apply and which to ignore, some take it literally. The former make me wonder why use religion in the first place if you're going to apply a human standard and the latter are batshit crazy.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:22 PM
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3. gOD works in Mysterious ways..... it isnt good to question gOD or any of HIS Followers, you could
end up burning in hell FOREVER.!!!!!
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:24 PM
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4. That is one giant fly in monotheism's soup.
In pantheism, good and bad were easy to explain. The benevolent gods did good things, while the gods who were pricks did the bad.

Seeing as how most of humanity has decided to believe in only one deity, the simultaneous existence of good and bad presents a big problem. If the deity loves humanity, why is he such a tremendous jerk to most of humanity?

I'm thankful I'm an atheist. :)
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:36 PM
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10. I get down on my knees and pray every day ...

... thanking God for making me an atheist.


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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 05:53 PM
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22. Amen...So to speak.
:toast:
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:26 PM
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5. "the Lord works in mysterious ways." "He's just testing us via free will"
yadda yadda yadda

seems to be the standard responses to questions which make people think about their faith.


in before the lock. :)
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:34 PM
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9. I was bad??
I didn't mean to be bad!! I though it was a fair question that might promote some sort of discussion in light of Falwell.........

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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:27 PM
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6. The fundies tend to disregard the true principles of Christ which include
compassion for those who are elderly, poor, handicapped, ect and not judging others--in effect the so-called "fundies" are not true Christians.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:31 PM
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7. I have no idea what fundies think or why
But fundies are themselves proff that "god" has an evil sense of humor
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:31 PM
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8. Only those who have actually read the Book of Job.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:42 PM
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11. Ask Job
If you read the book of Job, you will see that God has these little side bets with Satan. The Almighty doesn't have an evil sense of humor so much as a gambling addiction which the Adversary is (true to form) only happy to indulge.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:46 PM
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12. No, they don't believe that She has any sense of humor at all.
And they are not sufficiently self-aware to realize that they worship a trickster god.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 03:00 PM
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13. Homosexuality is a key problem for the fundamentalist arena
First you have to understand what they mean when they say something is a sin. It doesn't just mean doing something naughty. In their world view there is God's way and there is every other way. Any time you do something that is not God's way you are in effect turning your back on God and choosing to betray him. Choice is the critical issue here.

Sin is choosing to disobey or reject God. Anything that is decried as a sin therefore must be the result of a choice. This is where they bump heads with homosexuality. For a long long time homosexuality was believed to be the result of choice. That is a deliberate rejection of goodness and proper relationships. That is homosexuals chose to turn their back on a wholesome life and instead tarnished themselves in corrupt relationships.

But then science got involved. Normally when science and religion bump heads its over tangential matters. Is the earth the center of the universe? Did the flood happen? Science typically stays out of religions real core of determining moral issues. But in the case of homosexuality science intruded into the moral realm.

Psychology eventually came to the conclusion that homosexuality was not a disorder. They removed it from the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual). Neurologists and Biologists began finding evidence that there may in fact be a biological (ie natural) cause behind homosexuality.

This shift in view about homosexuality carries a critical problem for fundamentalist beliefs the likes of which they have never really had to deal with before. Here science was clearly stating that homosexuality was not a choice. They were born that way. Made that way. They had no choice in the matter. But the bible clearly states that homosexuality is a sin. A choice.

They have some wiggle room on the issue. The current position (amongst those that accept that it is biological in nature) is that it is the act of homosexual relationships that is the sin. But this still begs the question why a benevalent God would create so many with such a hardship the carry. Never able to commit to a relationship with those they naturally find themselves attracted to.

The issue of homosexuality calls into question a very core issue behind their beliefs. Sin. It is a deeply troubling issue that is not easily dismissed. They are going to fight it for all their worth.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 03:28 PM
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18. That's very good. Thank you. nt.
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chaplainM Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 03:01 PM
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14. Wouldn't God
...being omniscient, after all, already know the punchline to every possible joke He would ever hear?
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 03:02 PM
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15. Of course,
why else would he or she plant rocks that look just like dinosaur bones all over the place. Oh, and then there's that hell thing. Eternal suffering? Who deserves anything like that?
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 03:04 PM
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16. ever read candide?
A fun little work on the topic.
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teenagebambam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 03:21 PM
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17. I'm triple-cursed:
Fat, gay, and always hot.
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Nunyabiz Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 03:37 PM
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19. Everyone should watch this short Documentary.
"Life and Liberty for All Who Believe"

This was made back in 1982 and explains a lot about what these bastards have been up to all these years.
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RedStateShame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 03:37 PM
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20. No, they think God has a sense of humor, and fundies are evil.
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 03:40 PM
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21. Maybe there ain't no God, just us.
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