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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-10 09:23 PM
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A microphone is a guided weapon in the hands of those who spread hatred.
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Terry Jones Accused of 'Spiritual Abuse' at Cologne Church, SPIEGEL ONLINE, September 8, 2010



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Andrew Schäfer, a Protestant Church official responsible for monitoring sects in the region where Cologne is located, confirmed the accounts. "Terry Jones is a fundamentalist," he told SPIEGEL ONLINE.

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Former church members are still undergoing therapy as a result of "spiritual abuse," Schäfer said. According to Schäfer, Jones urged church members to beat their children with a rod and also taught "a distinctive demonology" and conducted brainwashing.

"Terry Jones appears to have a delusional personality," speculates Schäfer. When he came to Germany in the 1980s, Jones apparently considered Cologne "a city of Hell that was founded by Nero's mother," while he thought Germany was "a key country for the supposed Christian revival of Europe," Schäfer says.

Terry Jones used his powers of persuasion to expand the congregation. By the end, Schäfer estimates, it numbered between 800 and 1,000 people. They had to work in the so-called "Lisa Jones Houses," charitable institutions named after his first wife who has since died, under very poor conditions.

Increasingly Radical

Jones became increasingly radical as the years went by, former associates say. At one point he wanted to help a homosexual member to "pray away his sins." Later he began to increasingly target Islam in his sermons. A congregation member reported that some members were afraid to attend services because they expected to be attacked by Muslims. "Terry Jones has a talent for finding topical social issues and seizing on them for his own cause," says Schäfer.

By the end of 2007, the community had had enough. Members confronted him and tried to change the direction of the church. But Terry Jones refused to make changes, they say. In the end, Jones, his wife and their fellow preachers were expelled from the church and he moved back to the US. "The community imploded," says Schäfer. It only has some 80 active members today.

Now the whole world is condemning Jones for his planned burning of copies of the Koran. Schäfer, for his part, sees Jones as a fanatic who is courting global media attention because he couldn't cope with the "immense loss of power and significance."








October 4, 2008

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“There is a lot of interest, I guess, in what I read and what I’ve read lately. Well, I was reading my copy of today’s New York Times and I was interested to read about Barack’s friends from Chicago.

“I get to bring this up not to pick a fight, but it was there in the New York Times, so we are gonna talk about it. Turns out one of Barack’s earliest supporters is a man who, according to the New York Times, and they are hardly ever wrong, was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that quote launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and US Capitol. Wow. These are the same guys who think patriotism is paying higher taxes.

“This is not a man who sees America as you see it and how I see America. We see America as the greatest force for good in this world. If we can be that beacon of light and hope for others who seek freedom and democracy and can live in a country that would allow intolerance in the equal rights that again our military men and women fight for and die for for all of us. Our opponent though, is someone who sees America it seems as being so imperfect that he’s palling around with terrorists who would target their own country?” ---LINK


Sarah Palin's church promotes converting homosexuals at upcoming "Pray Away the Gay" conference, September 7, 2008

ANCHORAGE, ALASKA - Gov. Sarah Palin's church is promoting a conference that promises to convert gays into heterosexuals through the power of prayer.

"You'll be encouraged by the power of God's love and His desire to transform the lives of those impacted by homosexuality," according to the insert in the bulletin of the Wasilla Bible Church, where Palin has worshipped for about six years.

Palin's conservative Christian views have energized that part of the GOP electorate, which was lukewarm to John McCain's candidacy before he named her as his vice presidential choice. She is staunchly anti-abortion, opposing exceptions for rape and incest, and opposes gay marriage and spousal rights for gay couples.

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Glen Beck on 911 families and Katrina victims:

(partial rough transcript)

"It took me about a year to start hating the 911 victims' families... when I see 911 victims' families on TV or whatever, I'm just, like, OH, SHUT UP! I'm so sick of them because they're always complaining.

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The second thought I had when I saw these people and when they had to shut the Astrodome and lock it down... I thought, I didn't think I could hate victims faster than the 911 victims. These guys, when you see... these are the only ones we're seeing on television, are the scumbags... it is a small percentage who were left in New Orleans or who decided to stay in New Orleans and they're getting all the attention. It's exactly like the 911 victims' families. It's about 10 of them, and they're spoiling it for everybody."


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Jerry Falwell, September 13, 2001, two days after the Twin Towers attacks:

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On the broadcast of the Christian television program "The 700 Club," Falwell made the following statement:

"I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen.'" ---LINK









Pastor John Hagee:

September 18, 2006, one year after Hurricane Katrina slammed into the Gulf Coast:


All hurricanes are acts of God, because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they are -- were recipients of the judgment of God for that. The newspaper carried the story in our local area that was not carried nationally that there was to be a homosexual parade there on the Monday that the Katrina came. And the promise of that parade was that it was going to reach a level of sexuality never demonstrated before in any of the other Gay Pride parades. So I believe that the judgment of God is a very real thing. I know that there are people who demur from that, but I believe that the Bible teaches that when you violate the law of God, that God brings punishment sometimes before the day of judgment. And I believe that the Hurricane Katrina was, in fact, the judgment of God against the city of New Orleans.



On the same September 18, 2006, edition of National Public Radio's Fresh Air, host Terry Gross asked if Hagee believed that "all Muslims have a mandate to kill Christians and Jews," to which Hagee replied, "Well, the Quran teaches that. Yes, it teaches that very clearly."







Dr. Laura Schlessinger's N-word rant, August 10, 2010 on her radio program





(via CSMonitor)


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Newt Gingrich took full advantage of the popular online messaging medium (Twitter) and let everyone know that Obama Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor (or "Maria" to Mike Huckabee) should step aside.

"White man racist nominee would be forced to withdraw. Latina woman racist should also withdraw," he said. ----LINK






"I don't want to go on a lynching party against Michelle Obama unless there's evidence, hard facts, that say this is how the woman really feels. If that's how she really feels -- that America is a bad country or a flawed nation, whatever -- then that's legit. We'll track it down." ---- Bill O'Reilly, February 20, 2008 LINK




http://newsbusters.org/static/2009/08/NYT%27s%20Brooks%20Calls%20Limbaugh%20Rhetoric%20Insane,%20Rush%20Responds.jpg

Rush got things started today with the latest Drudge special, a story of an assault on an Illinois school bus, with Drudge's headline highlighting the potentially racial element of the event: "WHITE STUDENT BEATEN ON SCHOOL BUS; CROWD CHEERS." Rush ran with it, saying, "it's Obama's America, is it not? Obama's America -- white kids getting beat up on school buses now." ---LINK





As we now come full circle:


"Quran-burning" Fla. pastor Terry Jones is Cape Girardeau native, ex-classmate of Rush Limbaugh, September 10, 2010




A microphone is a guided weapon in the hands of those who spread hatred.




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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 01:29 PM
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1. Palin-Beck counter-rallies formed in Alaska to 'throw light on the hatred and fear they create.'
Counter-rallies planned against Beck-Palin event on September 11 in Anchorage, Alaska

KTUU TV
Anchorage

September 11, 2010


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The event marks the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks in 2001, and former Gov. Sarah Palin is expected to introduce Beck to the crowd.

After hearing about the event, some Alaskans have organized rallies to express their objections to Palin and Beck -- and to, in their words, throw light on the hatred and fear they create.

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Palin and Beck are on track to possibly bring in more than 4,000 people. Beck is on the record calling President Obama a racist, a charge that’s not being taken well by some Alaskans like Desa Jacobsson, who’s organizing two counter-rallies outside the Dena’ina Center and on the Delaney Park Strip.

“What I’m afraid is that they're banking on ignorance for people to believe that (Obama’s) a Muslim. I object to that -- he's our duly elected president,” Jacobsson said. “And there are hidden inferences that we want to ‘take America back.’ Back to what?”

Jacobsson says she's organizing the counter-rallies to stop spreading hate.

“We've gotten e-mails as far away as Kenai, and phone calls, e-mails from people all over Anchorage favorably responding to this,” Jacobsson said.

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The date is also stirring controversy. Organizers say Sept. 11 was not the intended date, but critics don't believe it's a coincidence. They point to a Beck-Palin rally held a few weeks ago in Washington, D.C. at the steps of the Lincoln Memorial -- at the location and on the 47th anniversary of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s “I Have a Dream” speech.

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And the day after....



September 12, 2010


ANCHORAGE, Alaska – The Tea Party dream team of Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin held a 9/11 commemoration rally Saturday night.

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“Let me tell you, folks, it’s a brutal, leftist-dominated lamestream media world out there,” Mrs. Palin screamed to a cheering crowd of about 4,000 at a sprawling downtown convention center here. Lines snaked down the sidewalks for a few blocks, causing the event to start nearly 45 minutes later than planned.

The people were mostly supportive, though there were discernible pockets of lingering resentment for Mrs. Palin for quitting her job as Alaska’s governor last summer midway though her first term. There were more Beck shirts than Palin shirts – and a scattering of signs and buttons urging a “Palin-Beck” ticket in 2012. One protestor – Richard Zeigler of Anchorage – stood outside holding a “Palin and Beck 2012” sign captioned “Lipstrick and Dipstick.”



Ms. Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee in 2008, spoke briefly, then introduced Mr. Beck, who was fresh from a weeklong vacation in Idaho and still somewhat aglow from his August extravaganza. The duo sat on stools, a few feet from each other, and gave accounts of where they were on Sept. 11, 2001 (Ms. Palin, who was mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, at the time, was at her office; Mr. Beck was working as a local radio host in Tampa).

They joked about a potential partnership in 2012. “We would like to announce that in 2012…” Mr. Beck said, pausing, pausing, “…that we will both be voting.”

After 10 minutes, the friendly stage chat was interrupted by a heckler.

“You are a hypocrite, both of you are hypocrites,” a woman screamed, and was swiftly shouted down and removed.

“Thank you, God bless you,” Mr. Beck said, and Mrs. Palin added that her son, Track, fought in Iraq to help preserve this woman’s right to protest. After things settled down, Mr. Beck marveled that someone would spend $79 for a ticket, just so they could scream for a few seconds.

“It kind of makes me feel warm inside,” said Mr. Beck, adding that there would be no refunds.



Mrs. Palin vacated after about 20 minutes, leaving the stage to Mr. Beck and his trademark chalkboard – actually two – for close to 90 minutes. He gesticulated, shouted out his main points and touched on the familiar Beck hodge-podge of history and humorous asides. He wept (another Beck trademark) while speaking of his daughter, Mary, who has cerebral palsy.

He ridiculed critics who questioned what his “message” was at the August rally. “What was the message of 8/28?” he asked, and then answered himself. “You are the leader,” he said. “Stop looking for leaders. And start looking inside yourself.”




How much longer before the microphones for these two mocking, manipulative hate mongers are shut down?





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