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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:25 AM
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Did you know today was 9/11 ??
I am turning off my TV until some football comes on or a good movie. How much longer must we wallow in this. Yes, we are sorry for the 3000 victims killed that day. And we are sorry for the million people killed because of that day.

But, must we continue to use that day as the reason to continue these useless wars? I wonder, after WWII, how many hours we devoted to the attack on Pearl Harbor? Personally, I don't need any more of your mind-warping propaganda..
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:26 AM
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1. You are sooo correct. TV OFF!! I said a prayer, that's it. Let's move on....n/t
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 03:22 PM
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37. If any TV is on in our house, it's the Food Network.
I'm not going to participate in the National Mope. I have no interest in marking the day America changed - and the terrorists won (and the nutcases rose up and did everything they could to assist).
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:27 AM
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2. Just maybe it's a day to honor and remember the dead.
Personally, I don't know why you think it's propaganda. Should we just sweep it all under the rug? I don't think that would work either.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:29 AM
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4. I think it would be more appropriate to say a prayer and meditate...
Edited on Sat Sep-11-10 08:31 AM by kentuck
I do not see the buildings come crashing down one more time.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:30 AM
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8. "Mediatate" = BEST inadvertant neologism EVER!
:rofl:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:32 AM
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13. Thanks a_m..
IS it too late to refudiate that?

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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:58 AM
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21. It's appropriate for us to THINK about what happened. WHY. And the LIES we've been fed.
And what resulted from those lies.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:27 AM
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3. Do something productive and stop watching -is it propaganda if you sit and stew in front of the tv t
Edited on Sat Sep-11-10 08:28 AM by stray cat
No one has you tied to a chair
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:30 AM
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6. I did.
Just like you, I signed on to DU. :-)
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:29 AM
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5. We still recognize Pearl Harbor annually
Though without the raw pain it once held.

It's good and right that we continue to remember our dead.
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mike r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:30 AM
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7. 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11
Yes, it was a horrific crime, and every asshole involved in it should be killed until they're dead.

I'm freakin' sick and tired of the propaganda.

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:30 AM
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9. It cranks my chain how both the radicals and the media has capitalized on this day
It is sick!
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:32 AM
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10. +1,000,000,000,000,000
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:32 AM
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11. Yes. It's my brother's birthday.
;-)
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 03:23 PM
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38. It's Markos "Daily Kos" Moulitsas's birthday today too.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:32 AM
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12. Turn on ESPN and watch the Champions League
Twenty 20 cricket tournament - pure fun. Nice game in progress and another one coming up after this one.

After that I'm watching tennis before we head out to a fish fry.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:34 AM
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15. Friends are coming down from Denver later this morning...
and want to visit Manitou for dinner and some shopping. I have been so ill that I don't think I can do it...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 09:44 AM
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22. Get well soon
If you don't feel well enough don't go. :grouphug:
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Va Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:34 AM
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14. I agree
I don't need a bunch of squawking heads to remind me what happened on this day. We lost a lot more than 3000 lives that day.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 03:27 PM
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40. No kidding.
Sad but true.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:35 AM
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16. Amen to that.....
I dread this day every year now because of the shameless exploitation.



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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:53 AM
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17. 09/11/1986 - Dow Jones Industrial Avg suffered biggest 1-day decline ever.
I believe Ronald Reagan was President.

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Thav Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:56 AM
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18. Yes
Yesterday was september 10th. so today is september 11th, 2010. Tomorrow will be september 12th. And next week will be september 18th.

Say a prayer, have a moment of silence, and don't succumb to the hatred and bigotry that is sweeping the nation.
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disidoro01 Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:57 AM
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19. It will become less raw over time
Should we drop any and all memorials for people who have died? Bullshit, I don't need the commercialism but I am certainly thankful that my Uncle finished his job on the plaza a day early (9/10/01) and my Aunt had taken the day off. You don't like this being used to propagate wars, tell the president to get the fuck out of Afghanistan and Iraq(We still have about 50,000 over there). We give tribute to the dead in this country, get over it.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 08:58 AM
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20. I guess I could live with it if it wasn't being pounded the other 364 days, too.
:argh:
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 09:49 AM
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23. I'm watching the MSNBC replay of the Today Show's coverage of the event back in 2001.
This is a sad day. Many, many people lost their lives or were severely injured.

It lead to Afghanistan and Iraq.

I think about D-Day on every June 6 and Pearl Harbor on every December 7, and those were both before my time.

I'll always remember all three, and I sincerely hope that there will be no more days like them.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 09:50 AM
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24. Happy 9/11 day All!
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 09:52 AM
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25. Happy? Maybe. I'm going to go out and buy a few things, and eat some good food.
I'm not "over it", but that hasn't affected my appetite.
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jumptheshadow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 03:54 PM
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43. Not cool
Very insensitive.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 04:02 PM
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47. Your post made me think of this Onion article:
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 09:55 AM
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26. I consider this day as the annual reopening of the national wound.
I find the politicization of this day to be a profound insult to the victims and their families. We need to move on from this -- because it's gone from true memorializing to exploitation to keep the fear and loathing at fever pitch.

Not saying we should never forget, but it's time we start to find some kind of closure.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 10:05 AM
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27. Agreed. It has gone from a day of remembrance to a day of agenda pushing.
Edited on Sat Sep-11-10 10:24 AM by Arctic Dave
If I have to hear another, "I was ten miles from were it happened I could have died!" story I think I will barf.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 10:08 AM
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28. TV Off. If only someone would have taken a debris sample from WTC-7
Edited on Sat Sep-11-10 10:11 AM by lib2DaBone
...and had it analyzed (911 was a crime scene) we would not be watching this propaganda.

The perpetrators of 911 would be in jail and we would know the truth.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 10:08 AM
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29. I don't commemorate the NEW Pearl Harbor any more than the OLD
Television destroys the mind, unless used judiciously!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 10:16 AM
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30. "9/11" keeps on giving: More distraction away from real problems like:
The slow, 'kinder and gentler' demise of democracy.



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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 10:18 AM
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31. Big K and R
Take a moment, and then move on. That's the healthy perspective.

I have errands to do today, and I'm glad football is on today. It will keep me away from all of the flag waving melodrama (I hope, except maybe at halftime of the games).
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Madam Mossfern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 10:26 AM
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32. We had a short memorial service
at town square. Maybe 40-50 people attended. A few words, a short prayer, "God Bless America" and lit a candle. Maybe 20 minutes in all.

My only complaint was that the reverend who offered the prayer did it in the name of all who believe in Jesus Christ. Oh well.......
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 10:48 AM
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33. Some groups are chosing to move forward. No wallowing for them, they've got work to do.

Sacramento interfaith leaders plan 9/11 'blessing of peace' on Quran



More than 50 members of Sacramento's interfaith community - including Christians, Jews, Sikhs, Quakers, Muslims and Druids - will meet at the Cathedral of the Blessed Sacrament on Saturday, the ninth anniversary of 9/11, for a "blessing of peace on the Quran."

The 7 p.m. event, on the steps of the cathedral at 11th and K streets, is designed to blunt the threats of Florida Pastor Terry Jones to burn the Quran.

Jones' associates said today that no Qurans will be burned, but organizers of Saturday's event "wanted to send an alternative vision from America - placing roses on the Quran as a symbol of peace and tolerance. The World Peace Garden in Capitol Park has agreed to supply us with three dozen roses," said the Rev. David Thompson, president of the Interfaith Service Bureau.

"Afterwards the roses will be given to Muslim families," Thompson said. "Whether or not the Florida pastor goes through with his scheme to burn copies of the Quran, we in Sacramento are hopeful of bringing cooperation and peace here as we try to undo the damage already done, to protect our troops and to affirm our Muslim brothers and sisters here in America and around the world."

Non-Muslims will give seven readings from the Quran.

"The passages are chosen to show there are peaceful, wonderful passages from the Quran," Thompson said.

Each reader will then place a rose on the Quran.

There will also be reading from Hebrew and Christian scriptures - "correctives from the faiths Terry Jones is supposed to be representing," Thompson said.

Father Michael Kiernan of the Cathedral of the Blessed Sacrament will read from Matthew 5: "Blessed are the peacemakers. They shall be called sons and daughters of God."

The Hebrew scripture, from the second chapter of the prophet Isaiah, declares, "God will wield authority over the nations and adjudicate between many people; these will hammer their swords into ploughshares, their spears into sickles. Nation will not lift sword against nation, there will be no more training for war."

The seven blessings from the Quran each carry the message, "Let there be peace on Earth and let it begin with me," Thompson said. "Everyone in Sacramento who cares about this issue and wants peace and to show kindness to Muslims is encouraged to bring the gift of a rose and place it on the Quran. Let there be peace on Earth and let it begin with us."

http://www.sacbee.com/2010/09/10/v-mobile/3020147/sacramento-interfaith-leaders.html
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Saboburns Donating Member (690 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 11:45 AM
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34. Just becuse I choose to remember the vicims doesn't make a dupe
Please.

Get a grip.

I am fine by remembering innocent people murdered, traumatized, etc. There were thousands of genuine heroes that day. I will honor them.

Salaam Alaikum.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 11:46 AM
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35. Nobody said you shouldn't remember them...
??
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needledriver Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 03:15 PM
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36. Yes. It's my Dad's 90th birthday. n/t
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ChazII Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 03:24 PM
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39. 1984
Sept. 11 was when my son was born. So this date has always been important to me.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 03:29 PM
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41. yes, I knew. It will remain a day of mourning for the USA for a very long time
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jumptheshadow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 03:51 PM
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42. Of course I did
Edited on Sat Sep-11-10 03:58 PM by jumptheshadow
I will always remember the horror of that day. I will remember the clouds of dust that settled on my neighborhood, the people crying in the streets and the smell of that fire burning for weeks. I will remember seeing the Squad 1 fire truck go zooming by with 12 men who never came back. I will vividly recall the happiness in a friend's eyes during the previous week when she talked about how she was going to Grand Canyon on the next Tuesday for a rare holiday. On the ride into the airport she heard the news about the WTC and realized that her brother was working on one of the top floors. Her vacation was cut short and the long grieving process began. I may always be spurred by the sound of sirens or bagpipes into an anxious moment. September may be perpetually difficult for me; it seems like a biological thing now, and as the date approaches I withdraw into a shell.

I can be a good liberal and against the "war on terrorism" and I could have wept when the Iraq War started and still have these memories and feelings.

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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 03:55 PM
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44. yes, and i hear the fighter jets too
there's an airshow here today. yee ha.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 03:57 PM
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45. Our town left the flags from Labor Day up until this weekend and I'm really hoping in the future
Edited on Sat Sep-11-10 03:58 PM by Brickbat
that the "recognized" Labor Day and the faux-pious televised mourn-porn don't run together into some bizarre patriotic chimera celebration.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 03:58 PM
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46. It's absolutely disgusting the way the media exploits this tragedy.
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